Are non repentant suiciders destinated to Hell?

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Our life wasn’t our choice, if you reject that life and don’t want it that gives you a higher or maybe a terminate chance to go to Hell. Is this logical or fair?
 
Is the committer of suicide in his right mind? Typically, with today’s understanding of human psychology, we believe the answer is generally “no.”

But, hypothetically, if they are, and know what they’re doing, and do it without coercion or internal pressure (a “cold-blooded suicide”), and the criteria for mortal sin is met? Yes, they are destined to Hell.

You reject what you are and what you have, and act in a peversely unnatural way for a human by doing so.
 
Wesrock said:
Is the committer of suicide in his right mind? Typically, with today’s understanding of human psychology, we believe the answer is generally “no.”

But, hypothetically, if they are, and know what they’re doing, and do it without coercion or internal pressure (a “cold-blooded suicide”), and the criteria for mortal sin is met? Yes, they are destined to Hell.

You reject what you are and what you have, and act in a peversely unnatural way for a human by doing so.
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So you get destinated to suffer forever if you willingfully reject something you don’t want, that isn’t logical or fair.
 
ANV said:
So you get destinated to suffer forever if you willingfully reject something you don’t want, that isn’t logical or fair.
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If you’re the grand moral arbiter of all creation, you’re totally right.

That’s a rather large “if”.

It seems inherently contradicted by the existence of something else that could place you in a situation you don’t like, though. 🤷
 
ANV said:
So you get destinated to suffer forever if you willingfully reject something you don’t want, that isn’t logical or fair.
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If that isn’t “logical”, prove it.

I get the impression that you just do not like it.

In fact, it looks very logical: if someone does not like life, he probably won’t like eternal life either. Thus he gets eternal death instead.
 
ANV said:
Our life wasn’t our choice, if you reject that life and don’t want it that gives you a higher or maybe a terminate chance to go to Hell. Is this logical or fair?
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If a person commits a mortal sin and does not repent of it, they are eternally damned.

If a person acts to deliberately kill themselves, such as through drugs or a gun, and repents prior to their death, i.e. the soul’s departure from the body, then they will be forgiven.
 
ANV said:
So you get destinated to suffer forever if you willingfully reject something you don’t want, that isn’t logical or fair.
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I hate to be repetitive, but you and others never come up with an answer to this question:

Is it fair or logical that you even exist and enjoy to be alive?
Is it fair that you and others enjoy good things?
What about the internet? Is it fair or logical that you have access to a computer and fingers to type and a working brain?
?

Why are atheists obsessed with evil and suffering to the ignorance of good?

And if your reply is that if you don’t want any of it you should not be “forced” to have it, then why are we even having this discussion? What does it all matter to you?
 
ANV said:
So you get destinated to suffer forever if you willingfully reject something you don’t want, that isn’t logical or fair.
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Again, it isn’t all about you. Try to look outside of yourself for once.
 
ANV said:
Our life wasn’t our choice, if you reject that life and don’t want it that gives you a higher or maybe a terminate chance to go to Hell. Is this logical or fair?
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Nobody’s life is ‘their choice’. If you accept God’s free salvation (which means repenting of any mortal sin) you are ‘destined’ for Heaven. A place of perfect happiness, which you have done absolutely nothing to deserve, and where you will be happy forever.

Is this ‘logical or fair’?
 
Depression is the cause of most suicides. A severe, deep depression is a suffering and torment that you cannot fathom, unless you have experienced it. To think that in a moment of extreme weakness (anyone with depression, has many) someone bows out, and they are subjected to external torment, which is obviously much worse, really is contrary to any realistic form of justice.

And then you have the people who live a “good” life by following the “rules” and helping people and have relatively great health and good families, etc, think their destiny is sealed to go to Heaven. I think they should be concerned about passing judgement.
 
ANV said:
So you get destinated to suffer forever if you willingfully reject something you don’t want, that isn’t logical or fair.
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Believe it or not, we don’t own rights over our own lives. God does.

Therefore, it is a usurpation of God’s rights for us to take our own lives. That is why it is wrong.
 
Dying from cancer is not a sin, either is dying from depression.
 
po18guy said:
Yes. No. Maybe. Depends.
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Such deep emotive language - conjures up so many faceless images of two-faced politicians . . . :hmmm:
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Are non repentant suiciders destinated to Hell?
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I might venture to say that anyone who remains *non-repentant *after their death might be running that same risk. Suicide would be kind of secondary at that point.
 
goout said:
I hate to be repetitive, but you and others never come up with an answer to this question:

Is it fair or logical that you even exist and enjoy to be alive?
Is it fair that you and others enjoy good things?
What about the internet? Is it fair or logical that you have access to a computer and fingers to type and a working brain?
?

Why are atheists obsessed with evil and suffering to the ignorance of good?

And if your reply is that if you don’t want any of it you should not be “forced” to have it, then why are we even having this discussion? What does it all matter to you?
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Well stated.
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laylow said:
Dying from cancer is not a sin, either is dying from depression.
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No one said that “dying from depression” is a sin. Depression is a mental illness. Wesrock above already said that if a person committing suicide is not in his right mind, then he isn’t freely making the choice and thus is lacking one of the requirements for serious sin.
 
How one answers that really depends on his/her theology. Does God forgive someone of future sins? (i.e. sins they have not yet committed). How a christian answers that question is going to depend on whether or not they believe in eternal security. I believe in the eternal security of the believer, which means that I believe that any christian that commits suicide will still be saved. He/she will go be with the Lord.

Should we commit suicide then? by no means. We have an obligation to keep running the race as long as God would have us do so.

An unsaved person does not go to Heaven if he/she commits suicide. The wrath of God remains on them, as John 3:36 says.
 
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