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CatholicBoy1957
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The point is that owning the Blind Faith album cover is probably enough to put you away for a long time. The Blind Faith album art was banned in some countries. I didn’t buy a copy. I would have been too ashamed to, but now, I’d be afraid to. I wonder if Caravaggio and Beaugereau were banned. The drapes were recently removed from the paintings in the Sistine Chapel, so maybe they’ll go back on.
The point is that you probably can’t trust the US Justice system. I won’t speak for other countries. I would hope that people who are truly victims would get the justice due to them, while those who do wrong get the punishment and rehabilitation they deserve and need. My hope may be a false hope. The scales of justice are out of balance. The laws are too harsh. The laws are too harsh on the innocent. The laws are not too harsh. They are not harsh enough to work on the guilty. The justice system tries to create a balance by harshly punishing on some crimes as a compensation for a largely immoral society.
Adam and Eve hid from God, because they were ashamed they were naked. They lost their innocence, and they were conscious of sin. When my dad was a kid, he said he and his friends thought nothing of swimming in the river, and there were no swimsuits. Homosexuality was rare and in the closet. Now that we’ve gone and legalized it, and immorality is rampant, it’s impossible for kids to be innocent, and they are conscious of sin. Of course we must have preposterous laws and measures to protect children. We see the danger to them in the grossly immoral society the Godless have created for us.
If society was capable, on it’s own, of getting better, why would there be any need for a Second Coming?
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What does a Nude Album Cover of a Eric Clapton rock music record have to do with what were talking about here? If your speaking about forms of pornography and those who infatuated by it, then yes; I can understand how the insidious porn industry has helped infect the minds of would be rapists.Sorry for asking but what does Blind Faith album cover have to do with putting me away for a long time?
I have no use for Satan’s porn industry. I hope it burns in Hell.
It may be of little use of telling you but I am a Victim of Gang Rape and Torture at Gunpoint if you had read back in earlier posts in this thread.
Yeah; I know what other victims feel like; I know what it is to be looked down upon, blamed and ridiculed and pigeonholed as gay.
Strange how people who have never been raped, think they know so damned much about rape.
All I hear is quick judgment and disdain against the majority of Victims
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Well; for that matter I have very limited trust in my own countries Justice System.
This has No bearing on Nationality…other than weak humans who turn the Justice System into ridicule.
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I’m in complete agreement with you here.
Something tells me inside you do know something about Rape.
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CatholicBoy1957
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It has to do with not just porn, but child porn, like the child porn mentioned in the first post, and the child molesters mentioned in the post just previous to my original mention of Blind Faith. It also has to do with the laws which are the topic of the thread. I don’t know about your country, but I’ve read about how the laws work in this country, and if a prosecutor wants to make a case, the laws are ambiguous enough that they could try to make a case over something like that album cover. Reading some of the posts here, and doing more reading in the past couple of days just reinforces my feelings about the laws.CatholicBoy1957;7660684]
Sorry for asking but what does Blind Faith album cover have to do with putting me away for a long time?
I have no use for Satan’s porn industry. I hope it burns in Hell.
I know. I did acknowledge your mention of rape, but now that I look, my comment was not clear. I am sorry to learn of your experience.
I like to think I know something about morality.
I was never raped, but was threatened with it by a neighbor. Fortunately, I successfully prosecuted him, but he went on ARD, so he has no public record. Nonetheless, the record was set straight, and I’m surprised that complete strangers approached me about it in the supermarket, saying, “You’re the guy that lives next to the guy with the purple house. Is he behaving?”.
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centurionguard
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I’m glad you mentioned this and I most certainly don’t take it lightly.
People might find ways to pre-judge all rape victims in what ever self-righteous fashion they please.
However; when it comes to the crime and destruction of a little child be it rape or incest the convicted assailant never has any excuse. Nor they be saved from any protection from the harsh gravity of punishment in the hardest degree justified.
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Warrenton
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If our collective governments were worth a tinker’s curse, this would be fixed. This is what the prophets meant when they accused the kings of Israel and Judah of permitting the unrighteous to rule over the righteous.
It makes me very angry when I see all the security the government erects for itself, such as the fences and concertina wire around its installations, the guards around its buildings and courts, the metal detectors, the legions of police set to protect its own interests, while the rest of us are left to shift for ourselves.
A spiritual hug to you, brother.
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centurionguard
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Living the aftermath of Rape for the better part of my entire life since August 1979, I have for numerous hours, days, months, years studied Rape, Incest, and Sexual Assault from many avenues and educational resources.
I have asked myself numerous times having befriended many rape and incest victims wondering if their ever could be a cure to all this that would stop selfish people from taking advantage on the most part of innocent victims.
Much moral insight can be written into all this.
Will there ever be a miraculous cure that stops people from being a Victim of Rape or Incest etc?
I’m forced to say NO given the allotted time sinful mankind has in this school of life.
A Great War like none ever seen since the beginning of Mankind on the face of this earth awaits the human race.
In the book of the Apocalypse we can read the future that awaits befallen Mankind when all Sin will one day be eradicated.
Until then its regrettable to say that NO Justice that the intellect of the humankind could possibly think of will eradicate the Crime of Rape, Incest or Sexual Assault.
Peace
Chris
I have asked myself numerous times having befriended many rape and incest victims wondering if their ever could be a cure to all this that would stop selfish people from taking advantage on the most part of innocent victims.
Much moral insight can be written into all this.
Will there ever be a miraculous cure that stops people from being a Victim of Rape or Incest etc?
I’m forced to say NO given the allotted time sinful mankind has in this school of life.
A Great War like none ever seen since the beginning of Mankind on the face of this earth awaits the human race.
In the book of the Apocalypse we can read the future that awaits befallen Mankind when all Sin will one day be eradicated.
Until then its regrettable to say that NO Justice that the intellect of the humankind could possibly think of will eradicate the Crime of Rape, Incest or Sexual Assault.
Peace
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themeginthemoon
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Hi Chris,
I have to agree with you in a really big way. I am a survivor of sexual assault and I volunteer as a victims’ advocate. I don’t think that sex offender laws are too harsh at all.
However, I think some of the finer points are unreasonable. For example, the idiot who gets drunk and streaks through the street naked at 4AM is a bone brain, and deserves consequences, but putting him on the sex offender registry seems like overkill. You have to be reasonable with some of these things! I think they should lock up child molesters, serial rapists, and sexual batterers up for MUCH longer, life even, so that they stop hurting people. Sure they can hurt on the inside of prison, prison rape is a very unfortunate reality but at least they will be kept away from children, our innocents!
Just my humble opinion.
Much Love and God bless,
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I have to agree with you in a really big way. I am a survivor of sexual assault and I volunteer as a victims’ advocate. I don’t think that sex offender laws are too harsh at all.
However, I think some of the finer points are unreasonable. For example, the idiot who gets drunk and streaks through the street naked at 4AM is a bone brain, and deserves consequences, but putting him on the sex offender registry seems like overkill. You have to be reasonable with some of these things! I think they should lock up child molesters, serial rapists, and sexual batterers up for MUCH longer, life even, so that they stop hurting people. Sure they can hurt on the inside of prison, prison rape is a very unfortunate reality but at least they will be kept away from children, our innocents!
Just my humble opinion.
Much Love and God bless,
M
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ProPatria
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It is impossible to punish sex offenders too harshly. Here in Finland they always get disgustingly mild punishments and are soon free to hunt for more victims. If - God forbid - anyone in my family ever was raped, I would have serious trouble letting the police handle the case and would rather take care of the issue myself.
Society has to stop this ridiculous “understanding” of child molesters and rapists: they are criminals, and they MUST BE punished. We have to stop letting rapists out of prison and it may be necessary to use capital punishment in certain cases. I also think that child molesters have no right to any privacy or safety and therefore they should be placed among the other prisoners. If they don’t want to get killed in prison, they shouldn’t break the law.
Society has to stop this ridiculous “understanding” of child molesters and rapists: they are criminals, and they MUST BE punished. We have to stop letting rapists out of prison and it may be necessary to use capital punishment in certain cases. I also think that child molesters have no right to any privacy or safety and therefore they should be placed among the other prisoners. If they don’t want to get killed in prison, they shouldn’t break the law.
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CatholicBoy1957
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Sorry Pro, it won’t happen in your society or mine. The people you are discussing are too closely linked to those who are allowed to engage in their immoral behavior legally. It doesn’t work to say that we will allow serious immorality, but stop just short of allowing the most serious of immorality. We have even more states now allowing “Gay marriage”. We are headed in the opposite direction from what you have advocated here.
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ERose
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Wait until they start making it legal. You know that this is next after the progressives finish slamming gay marriage down our throats. Already you are seeing it in some countries where they are reducing the legal sexual age. There are already lobbyist groups such as man-boy love association pushing for this. Like I said just wait for it is coming.
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ProPatria
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I am afraid you are right. I have long feared that once same-sex “marriage” becomes practically universally accepted, all the godless ultra-liberals will aggressively start working for eliminating the age of consent. The children will be taught at school how it’s alright for an adult to have a sexual relationship with a child. We are living in a world where ever greater evils are becoming socially acceptable and even encouraged. What’s also sad is that when someone in my country speaks up for the truth, the liberals immediately condemn that person calling them a fascist or something like that.
If I didn’t love and trust God, I’d have given up all hope a long time ago.
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ProPatria
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I know how same-sex “marriage” is spreading in America. But you wouldn’t believe what’s going on here. We have very few politicians who actively speak against “gay marriage” and the majority of the people are fine with this whole concept of same-sex “marriage.” We have influential and liberal Lutheran “bishops” lobbying for it. It deeply saddens me to see where we are going. I fear removing the age of consent is the next step.
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Rock_Happy
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There are legal and moral differences when it comes to sex acts where there is a victim (due to age or consent), and sex acts between consenting adults. Most states struck down criminal ordinances for sex acts between consenting adults some decades ago. However, in some states oral sex between a married couple is still a crime. The US Supreme Court recently struck down the Texas law prohibiting consensual sex acts. The gay marriage issue would fall under the class of a consensual relationship, and therefore a very different issue than rape, child molestation, public lewdness, etc…
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ringil
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They are not harsh enough for child predators. Lock them up for a LOOOONNNGGG time.
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freethinker83
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For the most part I think punishment should be harsh. There are situations where the law is wrong or too harsh.
For example I don’t think an 18 year old who has consensual sex with a 15 year old should be punished in the same was as a 35 year old. I don’t really think the former is rape.
Teenagers who make bad decisions and send explicit photos of themselves have been prosecuted for child p*rn. It is a bad decision on the part of the teen to be sure, but that person surely isn’t a sex offender.
For example I don’t think an 18 year old who has consensual sex with a 15 year old should be punished in the same was as a 35 year old. I don’t really think the former is rape.
Teenagers who make bad decisions and send explicit photos of themselves have been prosecuted for child p*rn. It is a bad decision on the part of the teen to be sure, but that person surely isn’t a sex offender.
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ProPatria
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I agree, of course. I don’t think that there is much point in prosecuting two adult men for what they do behind closed doors without harming anyone. What they are doing is, even though morally wrong, between God and them, not the state and them, as long as it’s consensual and they keep it to themselves. Rapists, on the other hand, are clearly a completely different issue. I merely wanted to express my concern that in this case the acceptance of one evil inevitably leads to the acceptance of another, greater evil.
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