Are the Jews still the chosen people?

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Genesis315 said:
For someone might claim that even though the Jews were formerly beloved on account of their forefathers, nevertheless the hostility they exert against the gospel prevents them from being saved in the future. But the Apostle asserts that this is false, saying: The gifts and call o God are irrevocable, i.e., without repentance. As if to say: That God gives something to certain ones or call certain ones is without repentance, because God does not change His mind: "The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind” (Ps 110:4)
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If Aquinas wrote this, then why the centuries of Catholic hostility against the Jewish people?
 
Probably just the all too common trait of fallen human nature to distrust the “other”–and majorities usually have the means to do ill to minorities as a result. This is augmented by the fact that, in the intemperate, a zeal against an error (in this case a denial of the Incarnation) can too often become a zeal against the erring.
 
ConstantLearner said:
In part, because Catholics want to be the chosen people. In short, jealousy.
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Interestingly enough, according to Romans, the Gentiles were grafted in to make the unbelieving Jews jealous so that they might be grafted in again and saved:

Romans 11
11 So I ask, have they stumbled so as to fall? By no means! But through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. 12 Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!

13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? 16 If the dough offered as first fruits is holy, so is the whole lump; and if the root is holy, so are the branches.

17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, a wild olive shoot, were grafted in their place to share the richness[a] of the olive tree, 18 do not boast over the branches. If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 You will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast only through faith. So do not become proud, but stand in awe. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even the others, if they do not persist in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you have been cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree.

25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, 26 and so all Israel will be saved; as it is written,

“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As regards the gospel they are enemies of God, for your sake; but as regards election they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable. 30 Just as you were once disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so they have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may receive mercy. 32 For God has consigned all men to disobedience, that he may have mercy upon all.
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They were the chosen people, but are no longer after the Sacrifice of Christ.
 
The Jews were never the chosen people. It is a misinterpretation of “Israel” which literally means “The Judgement of the Creator” or “The Will of the Creator”. As Israel started as the name of an individual, so it culminates in the name of an individual, the Messiah.
 
semper_catholicus said:
They were the chosen people, but are no longer after the Sacrifice of Christ.
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The Jews are still the people called through their Patriarch, Abraham. All people, no matter what religion, can go to heaven. Even Jewish theology teaches that.
 
Jezra said:
The Jews were never the chosen people. It is a misinterpretation of “Israel” which literally means “The Judgement of the Creator” or “The Will of the Creator”. As Israel started as the name of an individual, so it culminates in the name of an individual, the Messiah.
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Israel means “May God prevail.”

In Hebrew the meaning of the name Israel is: May God prevail. He struggles with God. God perseveres; contends. In the bible when Jacob was in his nineties as a token of blessing God changed his name to Israel .


The Jews have always been God’s chosen people. Throughout history, God has chosen to speak to humanity through the Jews. Even the Christian messiah, Jesus, was an observant Jew. He could have been born during any age and even been Catholic, but he was an observant Jew.
 
No, they have not. Protestants teach that Jews remain God’s chosen people. Catholic theology says the same. If you want your assertions to be taken seriously, you have to provide a credible link:

First, Jewish people remain God’s chosen nation. Romans 11:28 continues: “but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs.” The word election means “choseness.” This refers to God’s choice of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and their physical descendants to be the people through whom God would make His name known throughout the earth.


This document, which was created by the USCCB states that it is a stereotypical misunderstanding of Catholics that the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people. They are.

 
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What the protestants teach is irrelevant. Protestant theology is unacceptable.
 
Are you not a Catholic?

I am not necessarily subject to the USCCB given that I am not American.
 
Did you read it?

It says that:

This document, which was created by the USCCB states that it is a stereotypical misunderstanding of Catholics that the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people. They are.

I can’t copy the exact wording because it’s a .pdf. It lists other stereotypical mistakes made by Catholics regarding Jews.

This takes nothing away from the Catholic religion. I’m not trying to say that. God loves all people, but he singled out the Jews.
 
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The Jews were NEVER the chosen people? This is a new interpretation for me. I have read that some Jewish scholars believe Gd offered the Law to the Jews LAST rather than first. But the Jews were the only ones who accepted it and subsequently studied and followed its teachings, as well as not adhering to its teachings.
 
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meltzerboy2 said:
The Jews were NEVER the chosen people? This is a new interpretation for me. I have read that some Jewish scholars believe Gd offered the Law to the Jews LAST rather than first. But the Jews were the only ones who accepted it and subsequently studied and followed its teachings, as well as not adhering to its teachings.
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Yeah, don’t know where he pulled that from.
 
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