Are the Keys mentioned in Isaiah 22:22 later negated in 22:25?

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The keys are mentioned in verse 22, then it goes on about the Peg and the sure fit and the weight of the father’s house in verses 23 and 24. All this is fine and good up to this point. But then Verse 25 seems to undue everything:

25: In that day, says the LORD of hosts, the peg that was fastened in a sure place will give way; and it will be cut down and fall, and the burden that was upon it will be cut off, for the LORD has spoken."

What does this mean for the Papacy ? Will this happen ?
What kind of Catholic commentary is out there on this verse. The Douay Rheims Haydock commentary says “Shebna shall lose all his employments and ruin others”. Shebna is mentioned earlier in verse 15. But Shebna is the one who had lost the keys to Eliacum and Eliacum was the one to have the Peg with the sure fit.
So if verse 22 is for the Papacy, is not verse 25 as well ?
 
You only have a problem if you treat Isaiah 22 as a strict blow-by-blow prophecy of the papacy. That is the wrong way to approach it. Rather, Isaiah 22’s reference to a prime minister-type office in the Davidic Kingdom with keys of authority is a biblical type, i.e., an imperfect OT image foreshadowing a perfected NT reality.

For more information on how to properly understand biblical types, check this out:
catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0405bt.asp
 
It would seem that in Matthew, the reference to the keys is there, while the reference to the peg is absent. Is it possible that Jesus omitted this on purpose, to show the unfailing nature of the papacy? Just some ideas I had.
 
Louis IX:
The keys are mentioned in verse 22, then it goes on about the Peg and the sure fit and the weight of the father’s house in verses 23 and 24. All this is fine and good up to this point. But then Verse 25 seems to undue everything:

25: In that day, says the LORD of hosts, the peg that was fastened in a sure place will give way; and it will be cut down and fall, and the burden that was upon it will be cut off, for the LORD has spoken."

What does this mean for the Papacy ? Will this happen ?
What kind of Catholic commentary is out there on this verse. The Douay Rheims Haydock commentary says “Shebna shall lose all his employments and ruin others”. Shebna is mentioned earlier in verse 15. But Shebna is the one who had lost the keys to Eliacum and Eliacum was the one to have the Peg with the sure fit.
So if verse 22 is for the Papacy, is not verse 25 as well ?
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The ‘key’, no pun intended, to understanding the passage is verse 24:
Isa 22:24 And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his father’s house, divers kinds of vessels, every little vessel, from the vessels of cups even to every instrument of music.

Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture, Nelson 1953 says," This is a prediction that while Eliacim’s house, his proximate descendants, will inherit his glory, the smaller vessels, or remote descendants will not, for Jerusalem shall fall and its citizens be exiled in the day of Yahweh."

Peace in Christ…Doulos
 
If your interested, Louis IX, the wonderful papal apologist Stephen Ray, author of Upon this Rock, has an online article on this very subject.

I hope this helps.
 
An even better resource is*** Jesus, Peter, and the Keys***. An easy read, really, and lots of reference and cross reference and explanation.
 
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If your interested, Louis IX, the wonderful papal apologist Stephen Ray, author of Upon this Rock, has an online article on this very subject.

I hope this helps.
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And speaking of Steve Ray, another great resource his his very readable book on this subject “Upon This Rock.” Between that and “Jesus, Peter and The Keys” you’ll have all the info you could possibly need.
 
Revelation 3:7

"To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:
These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

At this time Jesus holds the key of David.
 
Daniel Marsh:
Revelation 3:7

"To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:
These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

At this time Jesus holds the key of David.
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Exactly. Jesus is the ultimate holder of the keys. Taken along with Isaiah 22 and Matthew 16:19, it is clear that Jesus is giving Peter (and his successors) his own authority here on earth until he returns. Thus the importance of taking the whole Scripture into consideration rather than isolating (and thus distorting) certain verses.
 
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And speaking of Steve Ray, another great resource his his very readable book on this subject “Upon This Rock.” Between that and “Jesus, Peter and The Keys” you’ll have all the info you could possibly need.
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thanks, I went to the Ray article and took a quick read - I need to re read it a few more times to let it sink in.
 
Louis IX:
The keys are mentioned in verse 22, then it goes on about the Peg and the sure fit and the weight of the father’s house in verses 23 and 24. All this is fine and good up to this point. But then Verse 25 seems to undue everything:

25: In that day, says the LORD of hosts, the peg that was fastened in a sure place will give way; and it will be cut down and fall, and the burden that was upon it will be cut off, for the LORD has spoken."

What does this mean for the Papacy ? Will this happen ?
What kind of Catholic commentary is out there on this verse. The Douay Rheims Haydock commentary says “Shebna shall lose all his employments and ruin others”. Shebna is mentioned earlier in verse 15. But Shebna is the one who had lost the keys to Eliacum and Eliacum was the one to have the Peg with the sure fit.
So if verse 22 is for the Papacy, is not verse 25 as well ?
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The passage is not talking about the Papacy - the only connection is that Eliakim is given a key, like Peter later on - but it’s no more a prophecy of the Papacy than Jean-Paul Sartre was a forerunner of John Paul II. 🙂 Similarity of name or position or attributes between two or more individuals, is no proof that they related in any way.​

Besides, why would an eighth-century Jew, which is what Isaiah was, talk about something that would not exist for over a thousand years ? (Peter was not Pope - the Roman Popes are in some sense his successors, however.)

So there’s nothing to worry about ##
 
Louis IX:
The keys are mentioned in verse 22, then it goes on about the Peg and the sure fit and the weight of the father’s house in verses 23 and 24. All this is fine and good up to this point. But then Verse 25 seems to undue everything:

25: In that day, says the LORD of hosts, the peg that was fastened in a sure place will give way; and it will be cut down and fall, and the burden that was upon it will be cut off, for the LORD has spoken."

What does this mean for the Papacy ? Will this happen ?
What kind of Catholic commentary is out there on this verse. The Douay Rheims Haydock commentary says “Shebna shall lose all his employments and ruin others”. Shebna is mentioned earlier in verse 15. But Shebna is the one who had lost the keys to Eliacum and Eliacum was the one to have the Peg with the sure fit.
So if verse 22 is for the Papacy, is not verse 25 as well ?
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Matthew 16:18 "…and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it"

Previously, in verse 18 when Jesus says to Peter “…you are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church” to me I see it as Jesus building His kingdom/the church making Peter and successors prime ministers of this church/kingdom, that will always prevail.

Matthew wrote alot in his Gospel about the Davidic kingdom and Jesus fulfilling it … Christ the King. So, the way I understand it is if the church/kingdom, with Jesus as its Head, shall NOT be overcome then Jesus’ appointed office of prime minister shall not be overcome.

Bless you,

Joe
 
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