Are there an activity job in a SSPX retirement home as I'm guessing all are Catholic living there?

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I’m not a SSPX (or schismatic friars or monks’ communities) fan because I believe their splitting away was wrong), but, for reasons I listed in the vocations section a moment ago for jobs at a retired priest nursing home, I would work at a place run by the SSPX, Fatima Crusaders or ones with a combo of them (as schismatic groups like those have valid priests with valid Communion). I’m tired of keeping Protestants from receiving Jesus and catholics from receiving Protestant communion as if it’s at Mass. Can you volunteer and be fed and live-in with religious taking care of people in their ministry? I could do that at a place for kids (I’m more of a Pee-Wee Herman–jungle gym for them, but I can listen to their problems as well), but I’ve just had more experience with the elderly with dementia or A.D. If there’s FSSP or ICKSP or other obedient orders have something like that, that would be best!

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What part of the world do you live in? To where would you be willing to relocate? What sorts of skills and experience do you have? Those things would probably help people point you in the right direction.

Paul
 
I’m in K.C., Ks. I could relocate. I can listen to residents’ problems, spend time with them (as Mary did with jesus in the Mary and Martha story in the Bible), sing a bunch of their songs by heart (if they’re really elderly), and do silly things to amuse them. I’d developed all that over time (9 years–1 being part-time for 9 months, as I worked in a troubled youth place full-time doing various interactive stuff).
 
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I’m in K.C., Ks. I could relocate. I can listen to residents’ problems, spend time with them (as Mary did with jesus in the Mary and Martha story in the Bible), sing a bunch of their songs by heart (if they’re really elderly), and do silly things to amuse them. I’d developed all that over time (9 years–1 being part-time for 9 months, as I worked in a troubled youth place full-time doing various interactive stuff).
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Might not be quite as much fun, but a good entry point into working with the elderly is to become a CNA (Certified Nursing Assistant). In the US, this normally a 4-8 week course, costing from zero to a couple of thousand dollars, depending on where you go.

Job duties include assisting the residents in the activities of daily living, dressing, using the toilet, basic medical care in conjunction with a nurse, and generally helping them live a good life. The work can be demanding, bad smelling, and hard on the back. Starting pay ranges from $10-18 per hour, depending on the region and often includes benefits. There is a very high demand for CNA’s in many areas.

Paul
 
Thanks! I know about that. They have a high turnover rate. If it’s an apple turnover, I might consider it (laughing). Seriously, I’m not sure if I’d accidentally hurt someone or have the strength. Unfortunately, on people, Love handles" aren’t real handles (laughing). If I worked with injured youth, then maybe. I’d feel weird seeing any of them naked, in person, though-old or young (you might see a movie like a Bond movie or you might see an ethnographic documentary with naked people, but seeing one live is different–as it had happened in innocent situations in my life).
 
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Thanks! I know about that. They have a high turnover rate. If it’s an apple turnover, I might consider it (laughing). Seriously, I’m not sure if I’d accidentally hurt someone or have the strength. Unfortunately, on people, Love handles" aren’t real handles (laughing). If I worked with injured youth, then maybe. I’d feel weird seeing any of them naked, in person, though-old or young (you might see a movie like a Bond movie or you might see an ethnographic documentary with naked people, but seeing one live is different–as it had happened in innocent situations in my life).
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After over 27 years of nursing, believe me when I tell you that seeing people naked is the least of your worries in such a job. You get over that real fast. You cannot bathe a person with their clothes on or help them toilet with their pants up. You try to respect their modesty as best as you can because the job really is not about you, but about them, and keeping them healthy, clean and safe, and living with dignity. And if having to see them naked in order to clean up a soiled bed or taking them to the toilet to prevent them from wetting their pants helps preserve their dignity as a human being, then that is what you do.

When taking care of the ill or infirm you try to look beyond the mundane and/or unpleasant aspects of the job and see the whole person, remembering they are made in the image of God, and what you do for the least of His little ones is what you do to Him. They don’t want or like to be in the position of needing such care, and it is difficult for them also. Plus recognize the fact that one day you may well be in the same position as them, and need that kind of care.

These types of jobs might not be glamorous or the best paying, but they have their own intrinsic rewards and can bring much satisfaction.
 
about communion: What’s there left to say? You have to be Catholic, intiated into the sacrament (knowing you’re receiving Jesus), and be in a state of grace. Jesus is abused by being in any other person. It’s improper for Catholics to receive others’ communion as it would mean communion with a church with which you are not in communion. Since ones with Alzheimer’s have trouble discerning, maybe most Catholic ones shouldn’t have both. Many well Catholics probably don’t discern that, but they are responsible to–if they know that.

As for the CNA stuff, I’m not sure I can lift them as bodies have few lifting areas and then they can also have skin ulcers and skin tears on top of having loose, fragile skin in the first place. If something happened, I’d get very anxious and guilty. Non senior-citizens would be better for me if I’d do that job. Thanks for the info.!
 
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about communion: What’s there left to say? You have to be Catholic, intiated into the sacrament (knowing you’re receiving Jesus), and be in a state of grace. Jesus is abused by being in any other person. It’s improper for Catholics to receive others’ communion as it would mean communion with a church with which you are not in communion. Since ones with Alzheimer’s have trouble discerning, maybe most Catholic ones shouldn’t have both. Many well Catholics probably don’t discern that, but they are responsible to–if they know that. !
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I am really trying to follow you, but what you say makes no sense. As Catholics, we believe in apostolic succession for our priesthood. This gives us the true Eucharist. Protestant religions which do not have apostolic succession do not have Communion and deny the true presence. They do not have sacramental absolution for confession without apostolic succession.

To receive communion one must be in the state of grace, or as St Paul says, you would pull condemnation upon yourself. For a protestant to be free from mortal sin, he/she would have to have perfect contrition. This is very difficult to achieve, given their belief of once saved, always saved. I have even had some fundamentalist tell me that they don’t care what they do as they are saved PERIOD. That does not fly with correct theology. What is so hard to understand about this.

One with Alzheimers would not be culpable for their mental state, thus would have no guilt. Your statements do not reflect this theology.

Or, are we just having a failure to communicate?
 
I pretty much said you cannot receive Jesus if you’re Protestant, even if your conscience would be pure. If you’re Catholic, you also shouldn’t receive him if you have coughing or vomiting fits and you can’t eat with an hour of receiving him. You should acknowledge who you are receiving, but not all the demented can. I didn’t say they could not, but wondered if they should. There’s other things, but it’s all based on charity to God.
 
I see what you are saying now, but that does not connect to what my post # 7 quotes yoou as saying from your post # 1. Please explain the difference.
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Deacon Ed B
 
Because non-Catholic nursing homes have people who don’t believe in the Eucharist, they are indifferent as to who receives Protestant or Catholic versions of communion. Thus, Jesus goes into those not properly predisposed. I don’t know if I can go work at a place where you have to supervise who gets Jesus. It troubles me, when I think of it, that no one cares while I’m gone, but I can’t work at all the places. I feel, if I work at another nursing home, I’d want it to be one that only has Catholics or one that allows no religious services to avoid being responsible for who gets Jesus.

Of the traditionalists who wouldn’t put me in that situation, the SSPX and maybe schismatic friars seem to have apostolates outside of just having priestly orders doing Masses for people (except maybe the ICKSP, with their apostolate in Africa, the F.I. and some obedient traditional media), but I could be wrong. I’d rather work with the obedient kind. Of course, a home for retired priests would work also.

Somewhere, we digressed from the topic.
 
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Because non-Catholic nursing homes have people who don’t believe in the Eucharist, they are indifferent as to who receives Protestant or Catholic versions of communion. Thus, Jesus goes into those not properly predisposed. I don’t know if I can go work at a place where you have to supervise who gets Jesus. It troubles me, when I think of it, that no one cares while I’m gone, but I can’t work at all the places. I feel, if I work at another nursing home, I’d want it to be one that only has Catholics or one that allows no religious services to avoid being responsible for who gets Jesus.

Of the traditionalists who wouldn’t put me in that situation, the SSPX and maybe schismatic friars seem to have apostolates outside of just having priestly orders doing Masses for people (except maybe the ICKSP, with their apostolate in Africa, the F.I. and some obedient traditional media), but I could be wrong. I’d rather work with the obedient kind. Of course, a home for retired priests would work also.

Somewhere, we digressed from the topic.
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Unless you are working in a home that caters exclusively to retired religious, you would not have a guarantee that the residents are Catholic. At least in the US, if they take Medicare funds, they are bound to admit without regard to religion.

Additionally, even if you were in the perfect universe of only Catholic elderly, could you be certain that each and every of those receiving the Eucharist was in a proper state of grace? Do you see where I’m going with this? Stop worrying about things that are not your concern. Did our Lord not mingle with people for fear that some of them were sinners or not of the house of Israel? Of course not. He waded in and taught and served and healed people just exactly where they were.

Paul
 
I’m hoping that you would consider non-Catholics receiving Jesus is not permissible and I could not let that go on. I do wonder about the Catholic ones, as not all were saints for being around longer before Vatican 2 as Church history shows.

About Jesus mingling with sinners…well, he was not poorly catechized or once an altar boy with a priest that joked about a fat kid and other bad examples given them by some (as was recounted to me by one who was one in my class in the '80s). Not all Catholics should mingle with non-Catholics, especially in these days. It’s poor judgment for leaders to suggest that for all Catholics, before fixing the problems spread in the spirit of Vatican 2. Even if they said it’s not good for all to do so, most would, because people take advantage of freedoms carelessly (such as easy annulments, EEEMs handing out Holy Communion (which only a deacon, priest or higher clergy) should hold, and NFP. It’s human nature.
 
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