Are there any Faithful Catholics voting for Pro Choice Candidates here?

[Rascalking]

We don’t grasp how politics work? I know how it works - if someone is pro-abortion, I can’t support them. How else should it work? If Hitler was running for Governor, would you vote for him because, well, he’s not “perfect”, but he’s got a good handle on the economy?

Woah, woah, woah. Relax on the “Hitler” comments/metahphors, etc… They make people who use them look foolish.

Certain things get accomplished by majority parties. Bills, for instance. Now, let’s say you stay home and don’t vote for the republican because they are pro-choice. A more pro-choice democrat wins, therefore, giving them the majority. No bills will be introduced that are even PARTIALLY pro-life.

Chairmanships of committees. The party in the majority gets them. If your pro-choice republican wins, perhaps the chairman of the judiciary committee will not a pro-life republican.

Judges, another good example. Most times, a judge will be confirmed by their party. Pro-life judges need pro-choicers to support them.

 

[gakroeger]

By the criteria of being reasonable. Just because someone does vote a certian way doesn’t mean they reject church teachings.

You can’t read minds, remember that as well.

This is not true, you obviously do not understand Catholic Church teaching so why would you make a comment such as this?

 

[Rascalking]

Oh, yes it does. That’s exactly what it means.

No, it’s not. It means that people realize that no one will agree with you on everything and sometimes you need to vote for the person who will do the least damage so a person who does huge damage doesn’t get elected.

 

[Rascalking]

This is not true, you obviously do not understand Catholic Church teaching so why would you make a comment such as this?

Well my friend, maybe I don’t understand Catholic teachings. What I will also admit is I don’t understand people who don’t vote or vote for third parties.

 

[RosaryFan]

Woah, woah, woah. Relax on the “Hitler” comments/metahphors, etc… They make people who use them look foolish.

Certain things get accomplished by majority parties. Bills, for instance. Now, let’s say you stay home and don’t vote for the republican because they are pro-choice. A more pro-choice democrat wins, therefore, giving them the majority. No bills will be introduced that are even PARTIALLY pro-life.

Chairmanships of committees. The party in the majority gets them. If your pro-choice republican wins, perhaps the chairman of the judiciary committee will not a pro-life republican.

Judges, another good example. Most times, a judge will be confirmed by their party. Pro-life judges need pro-choicers to support them.

Pro-abortionists have no place in the politics. “No one who ignores the victims of abortion is worthy to hold public office”. I will not vote for a pro-abortion politician and believe me, you don’t need to explain all that garbage (above) to me, as I understand it all too well.

If you want to vote that way, that’s on you, but my conscience won’t allow it. When you vote for a candidate, no one really cares what’s in your heart and mind when you cast the vote. End result is the same - support for that candidate.

And you didn’t answer my question about Hitler. What would you do? He was lauded by some because of his economic savvy.

 

[Rascalking]

Pro-abortionists have no place in the politics. “No one who ignores the victims of abortion is worthy to hold public office”. I will not vote for a pro-abortion politician and believe me, you don’t need to explain all that garbage (above) to me, as I understand it all too well.

If you want to vote that way, that’s on you, but my conscience won’t allow it. When you vote for a candidate, no one really cares what’s in your heart and mind when you cast the vote. End result is the same - support for that candidate.

And you didn’t answer my question about Hitler. What would you do? He was lauded by some because of his economic savvy.

I didn’t answer your question because it was insulting.

 

[RosaryFan]

No, it’s not. It means that people realize that no one will agree with you on everything and sometimes you need to vote for the person who will do the least damage so a person who does huge damage doesn’t get elected.

I know that. The pro-life candidates don’t believe in everything I do either, but THEY deserve my vote. It comes down to only one issue - life. All the rest is useless without life. The person who does the least damage is the one who supports pro-life legislature.

 

[gakroeger]

Woah, woah, woah. Relax on the “Hitler” comments/metahphors, etc… They make people who use them look foolish.

Certain things get accomplished by majority parties. Bills, for instance. Now, let’s say you stay home and don’t vote for the republican because they are pro-choice. A more pro-choice democrat wins, therefore, giving them the majority. No bills will be introduced that are even PARTIALLY pro-life.

Chairmanships of committees. The party in the majority gets them. If your pro-choice republican wins, perhaps the chairman of the judiciary committee will not a pro-life republican.

Judges, another good example. Most times, a judge will be confirmed by their party. Pro-life judges need pro-choicers to support them.

Do you believe Hitler comments look foolish to Auschwitz survivors? How soon we forget. Some people attempt to paint references to Hitler as foolish because they like to believe these atrocities never happened. It started during the Bush administration when the far left began to ridicule it; which kind of explains where you are coming from.

People who believe this could not happen again are not paying attention to our culture’s direction.

 

[RosaryFan]

I didn’t answer your question because it was insulting.

It was insulting? Some people would support Hitler. How do you think he rose to power? He gained support from someone. And I’m sure it was because of his economic abilities. He was good for the ecomony, remember? So good, in fact, that many ignored and overlooked what was truly going on. Sound familiar?

You see, it’s not just the pro-abortionists who aggravate the situation. It’s also those who are indifferent. The luke-warms. They vote for pro-abortionists for whatever “good” reasons they can muster up. And do you know what Jesus said he would do with those luke-warms? I believe He said He would vomit them out of His mouth.

 

[Rascalking]

I know that. The pro-life candidates don’t believe in everything I do either, but THEY deserve my vote. It comes down to only one issue - life. All the rest is useless without life. The person who does the least damage is the one who supports pro-life legislature.

Well, it’s clear that it wasn’t you I saw at the latest pro-choice rally holding up signs that said “Keep abortion legal!”

(that’s a joke, so take it as one)

God bless.

 

[gakroeger]

Well my friend, maybe I don’t understand Catholic teachings. What I will also admit is I don’t understand people who don’t vote or vote for third parties.

Then why would you make judgement about what is or is not within Catholic Church teaching?

 

[Rascalking]

Do you believe Hitler comments look foolish to Auschwitz survivors? .

No, but I do believe that it’s time for me to walk my dog.

All the best.

 

[Rascalking]

Then why would you make judgement about what is or is not within Catholic Church teaching?

I was kidding around and trying to sarcastic. Take a deep breath my friend.

 

[RosaryFan]

Well, it’s clear that it wasn’t you I saw at the latest pro-choice rally holding up signs that said “Keep abortion legal!”

(that’s a joke, so take it as one)

God bless.

Ha! Joke taken. No it wasn’t me. Must’ve been Rosie or Whoopie.

 

[inkaneer]

If so, can you explain how you justify such votes?

I voted for pro choice candidates. The abortion issue is a myth. Politicians go around saying they are pro life to get pro life people to vote for them, that’s all. Yet there has not been one bill introduce by any of them to change the law and outlaw abortions, not one. Reagan and the two Bushes were in office for a total of 20 years and had Republican majorities for most of that time. So how many pro life bills were introduce to outlaw abortions? Can anyone think of one? I can’t. Therefore, I refuse to vote for some demagogue who says they are pro life in order to get a lot of votes from people too stupid to look behind what a politician says to what he does.

 

[RosaryFan]

I voted for pro choice candidates. The abortion issue is a myth. Politicians go around saying they are pro life to get pro life people to vote for them, that’s all. Yet there has not been one bill introduce by any of them to change the law and outlaw abortions, not one. Reagan and the two Bushes were in office for a total of 20 years and had Republican majorities for most of that time. So how many pro life bills were introduce to outlaw abortions? Can anyone think of one? I can’t. Therefore, I refuse to vote for some demagogue who says they are pro life in order to get a lot of votes from people too stupid to look behind what a politician says to what he does.

I don’t know about your area, but where I live, the politicians usually lose the election because of their pro-life stance, so I doubt they are lying when they say they’re pro-life. What about the ban on partial birth abortion?

 

[gakroeger]

I voted for pro choice candidates. The abortion issue is a myth. Politicians go around saying they are pro life to get pro life people to vote for them, that’s all. Yet there has not been one bill introduce by any of them to change the law and outlaw abortions, not one. Reagan and the two Bushes were in office for a total of 20 years and had Republican majorities for most of that time. So how many pro life bills were introduce to outlaw abortions? Can anyone think of one? I can’t. Therefore, I refuse to vote for some demagogue who says they are pro life in order to get a lot of votes from people too stupid to look behind what a politician says to what he does.

Sounds like a cop out to me. I wonder how many of the millions of aborted babys would agree had they a chance at life as all of us did?

 

[Rascalking]

Sounds like a cop out to me. I wonder how many of the millions of aborted babys would agree had they a chance at life as all of us did?

Sounds like your really passionate about this issue. I admire that. Why don’t you take a breather-things here need to cool down a bit.

 

[lil_flower_luv]

Woah, woah, woah. Relax on the “Hitler” comments/metahphors, etc… They make people who use them look foolish.

If comparing one Holocaust to another makes a person foolish, then guilty as charged.

I voted for pro choice candidates. **The abortion issue is a myth. ** Politicians go around saying they are pro life to get pro life people to vote for them, that’s all. Yet there has not been one bill introduce by any of them to change the law and outlaw abortions, not one. Reagan and the two Bushes were in office for a total of 20 years and had Republican majorities for most of that time. So how many pro life bills were introduce to outlaw abortions? Can anyone think of one? I can’t. Therefore, I refuse to vote for some demagogue who says they are pro life in order to get a lot of votes from people too stupid to look behind what a politician says to what he does.

Please tell me you are joking.

Would you like me to post a link to Bush’s pro-life record or Obama’s pro-death record? I wonder who has helped Satan’s cause the most?

Stop lying to yourself.

And yes, RascalKing, we are passionate about this issue. It’s the ones who are lukewarm and stuck in the grey area you have to look out for.

Thank God Jesus has conquered all this. But that doesn’t mean America won’t pay a heavy price. Please listen to our Lady of Akita–now that should have you changing your mind mighty fast.

 

[Miriam1947]

Out here in California, I am voting for Jerry Brown instead and not Meg Whitman.
I will be voting for Barbara Boxer and not Carly Fiorina.
How do I justify this decision??? Carly and Meg are a little too sketchy for my tastes.

Thank goodness I will cancel out your votes. Carly is pro-life and Meg is pro-choice for the first trimester only and is for parental notification and against partial birth abortion.

Brown and Boxer are both anti life, pro abortion up to and including partial birth abortion, big government, no tax we don’t like, Democrats.

This is not your grandfather’s Democrat party. No little guys allowed.