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harryguy
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Are their any NDE experiences that you might believe?
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SeriousQuestion
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Not necessarily. Some revelations from the lives of the saints, but I wouldn’t stray to NDE experiences.
Tis_Bearself
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Yeah, tons
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Lee1
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Personally I try not to have them 
However many of such stories seem to be highly subjective tales and some maybe just plain fiction.
I once read one which told of someone who ‘died’ in a hospital bed and floated to the ceiling observing attempts by staff to resuscitate him. He heard what they were saying and then floated out of the hospital window and along a little way where he noticed someone’s plimsole on the outside ledge. He then travelled back into the hospital and was suddenly back in his body. After a while he presumably had recovered his strength and remembering the plimsole he asked a nurse to go and look to see if such a thing was there. She came back and affirmed that it was and asked him how he knew!
Who knows.
However many of such stories seem to be highly subjective tales and some maybe just plain fiction.
I once read one which told of someone who ‘died’ in a hospital bed and floated to the ceiling observing attempts by staff to resuscitate him. He heard what they were saying and then floated out of the hospital window and along a little way where he noticed someone’s plimsole on the outside ledge. He then travelled back into the hospital and was suddenly back in his body. After a while he presumably had recovered his strength and remembering the plimsole he asked a nurse to go and look to see if such a thing was there. She came back and affirmed that it was and asked him how he knew!
Who knows.
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CelticWarlord
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For a number of years I studied NDE’s and read hundreds of accounts from people who claimed to have had them. The majority were collected and published by a couple of people who, as best they could, weeded out the obviously phony or frivolous stories. Among those that were left I’m certain a fair number could also be discounted as dream states, sleep paralysis, delusions, or encounters embellished by imagination.
But that still lift a huge number of stories with a number of things in common. And I had to keep in mind that these claims were coming from all over the world, from all sorts of people, from atheists to Muslims and Christians. I accept that this smaller sampling of people likely had genuine experiences. I think of them as a blessing to those folks like myself who thrive amid some offering from God that the afterlife is real and that it defies our attempts to describe it fully.
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sevenswords
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Lazarus comes to mind, 4 days dead
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bquinnan
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My grandmother said she had one once when had flat-lined at the hospital – she saw people she knew who had gone before greeting her with smiles and started to see bright light, and then she felt herself being pulled back to her body. I have no reason to doubt her story.
I was hit by a car a few years ago and was very close to death. I didn’t see any bright lights or anything, but I later recalled a moment while I was unconscious where I felt that I could let go and die or find the will to live. I think God used the experience as kind of a wake-up call for me.
I was hit by a car a few years ago and was very close to death. I didn’t see any bright lights or anything, but I later recalled a moment while I was unconscious where I felt that I could let go and die or find the will to live. I think God used the experience as kind of a wake-up call for me.
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii
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I believe that NDEs are a form of hallucination brought on by lack of oxygen to the brain.
They neither prove nor disprove the afterlife.
And the reason I say this is that NDE are near death. Not actual death. NDE patients all “came back”.
They neither prove nor disprove the afterlife.
And the reason I say this is that NDE are near death. Not actual death. NDE patients all “came back”.
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joeybaggz
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I prefer the term, “open to the possibility” in situations/question such as these, rather than the phrase, “I believe.” I am open to the possibility that they are all valid, or many of them. No one, (other than the tree raised by Christ) have ever returned to tell us about it.
Like God said (in the movie, O God - I think that’s it-the one with John Denver) “you make a doll’s head spin around and spit pea soup, and everyone believes in the devil” Funny how humans can believe everything about Satan, and question everything about God.
Like God said (in the movie, O God - I think that’s it-the one with John Denver) “you make a doll’s head spin around and spit pea soup, and everyone believes in the devil” Funny how humans can believe everything about Satan, and question everything about God.
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TechieGuy
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If I experienced one, I’d give it serious consideration
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Ardent_Fire
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I might believe the ones that are brief or don’t try to start some new religion or belief system. But I do not believe the ones that are very descriptive about the afterlife and what goes on and claim to have lots of “new” information but use new age terminology. Especially if they’re trying to profit by giving lots of talks and selling a book about it. Same with people that claim to have “messages” from Mary but they’re not Catholic but just new age garbage.
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Lost_Sheep
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For what it’s worth…
A few years ago, I attempted to take my own life (overdose). After all was said and done, and I had recovered I was told that for a period of time I was “clinically dead” and it was a miracle (the doctor’s words) that I recovered with no ill effects.
However, during this time I did not experience one of these NDEs that you always hear about. No hovering over my hospital bed while the doctors and nurses worked on me, no bright light at the end of a tunnel, no seeing relatives that had passed before me, telling me “it’s not my time yet” or anything like that. Nothing. Zero. Zilch Nada.
The time between when I made my attempt and when I woke up in the hospital 24 hours later were a complete blank. I remember nothing. I’m not suggesting these people who claim to have experienced NDEs are being untruthful; I’m just saying that I was a “perfect candidate” for such an experience yet did not have one.
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A few years ago, I attempted to take my own life (overdose). After all was said and done, and I had recovered I was told that for a period of time I was “clinically dead” and it was a miracle (the doctor’s words) that I recovered with no ill effects.
However, during this time I did not experience one of these NDEs that you always hear about. No hovering over my hospital bed while the doctors and nurses worked on me, no bright light at the end of a tunnel, no seeing relatives that had passed before me, telling me “it’s not my time yet” or anything like that. Nothing. Zero. Zilch Nada.
The time between when I made my attempt and when I woke up in the hospital 24 hours later were a complete blank. I remember nothing. I’m not suggesting these people who claim to have experienced NDEs are being untruthful; I’m just saying that I was a “perfect candidate” for such an experience yet did not have one.
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Tis_Bearself
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I’m not sure how the fact that you personally didn’t have an NDE is relevant to the discussion of believability of NDEs. It’s not like everyone near death comes back and reports one. If they happened every single time a person was near death, I would be more inclined to think they were physical phenomena.
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midori
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Hospice nurses are the best people to hang out with for stories about thin times and thin places…
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mymailman
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Howard storm has a testimony that is believable
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Lost_Sheep
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I’m not trying to discredit those who claim to have had a NDE. I’m simply saying that I was a good “candidate” for one but it didn’t happen. That’s all.
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AZ42
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My grandmother had one when she had a heart attack. Her story seemed believable.
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Calliope
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I’ve had one, so I know the experience is real. I think the real question is what does that experience stem from and does it represent objective reality.
I’m thinking not so much, and that the experience is something the brain conjures up due to stress/lack of oxygen/other chemical changes in the brain and blood.
There are commonalities in them all throughout history. While some of the stories are probably made up to gain attention or for financial benefit, I believe that many people describe what they experienced with no imbellishment and no agenda to push.
I’m thinking not so much, and that the experience is something the brain conjures up due to stress/lack of oxygen/other chemical changes in the brain and blood.
There are commonalities in them all throughout history. While some of the stories are probably made up to gain attention or for financial benefit, I believe that many people describe what they experienced with no imbellishment and no agenda to push.
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otrrl
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non-destructive examinations? they’re pretty standard physical tests
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