Are there any traditional Catholic nursing homes

[foolishmortal]

I’m not a big fan of the SSPX’s, ecclesially, but I’d work at one of those, if only they own any. I don’t like working at religious (not religious community) nursing homes, because there’s so many relativists, they think they’re helping the activities department or they just want them out of the hall. They’ll bring any resident to any religious service, without asking, despite that resident rights involve not making one go to a service not of their own. Some are for open communions (including some EEEMs and some Protestant ministers doing services will actually give out their communion saying “Body of Christ.” They wanted me to help him pass out their juice and say “Blood of Christ.” I drew the line there. I said “represents…”, but I couldn’t continue, thankfully, due to time constraints.

I want to work where one of the most important boundaries in one’s life is respected.

 

[newyorkcatholic]

I’m not a big fan of the SSPX’s, ecclesially, but I’d work at one of those, if only they own any. I don’t like working at religious (not religious community) nursing homes, because there’s so many relativists, they think they’re helping the activities department or they just want them out of the hall. They’ll bring any resident to any religious service, without asking, despite that resident rights involve not making one go to a service not of their own. Some are for open communions (including some EEEMs and some Protestant ministers doing services will actually give out their communion saying “Body of Christ.” They wanted me to help him pass out their juice and say “Blood of Christ.” I drew the line there. I said “represents…”, but I couldn’t continue, thankfully, due to time constraints.

I want to work where one of the most important boundaries in one’s life is respected.

I know Fr. Pasley, of Matter Ecclesiae in Berlin, NJ, sometimes says Mass at a nursing home … the parish is an EF only parish. sorry, don’t know more than that

 

[foolishmortal]

Thanks, but it would need to be run by traditionalists, if only small and mostly run by religious.

 

[Pregustator]

Thanks, but it would need to be run by traditionalists, if only small and mostly run by religious.

Well, wouldn’t you rather have a nursing home operated by competent professional care-givers than one run by “traditionalists”? “Traditional” and “non-traditional” generally reflects a difference bewteen approaches to liturgy, but one cannot just approach every single thing in that way. Some things–like nursing homes–are neither “traditional” nor “untraditional”. They just are what they are. It’s rather like asking if there are, from the Catholic perspective, any “traditional” supermarkets or employment agencies or Lincoln-Mercury dealerships. It doesn’t make any sense.

It sounds like what you want is a good nursing home operated and staffed by dedicated professionals who are sensitive to the needs of their resident clients.

At any rate, good luck finding a nursing home, a hospital, a homeless shelter, or any service-oriented ministry run by the SSPX or a similar Catholic traditionalist group; that sort of thing isn’t their bag.

 

[Pregustator]

Well, wouldn’t you rather have a nursing home operated by competent professional care-givers than one run by “traditionalists”? “Traditional” and “non-traditional” generally reflects a difference bewteen approaches to liturgy, but one cannot just approach every single thing in that way. Some things–like nursing homes–are neither “traditional” nor “untraditional”. They just are what they are. It’s rather like asking if there are, from the Catholic perspective, any “traditional” supermarkets or employment agencies or Lincoln-Mercury dealerships. It doesn’t make any sense.

It sounds like what you want is a good nursing home operated and staffed by dedicated professionals who are sensitive to the needs of their resident clients.

At any rate, good luck finding a nursing home, a hospital, a homeless shelter, or any service-oriented ministry run by the SSPX or a similar Catholic traditionalist group; that sort of thing isn’t their bag.

 

[newyorkcatholic]

At any rate, good luck finding a nursing home, a hospital, a homeless shelter, or any service-oriented ministry run by the SSPX or a similar Catholic traditionalist group; that sort of thing isn’t their bag.

I think the SSPX does have an orphanage in India … there is an FSSP apostolate in a very poor region of Colombia … that’s just off the top of my head.

Right now there are few traditionalists, and they are still persecuted. They are struggling just to prevent knowledge and praxis from being completely obliterated and forgotten.

But if things continue to improve, I think bringing tradition to the poorest and the marginalized should be the priority. The right-oriented worship of God is not the prerogative of rich/white/western/anglophone/francophone folks, as sadly those who wish to serve the poorest sometimes think.

 

[puzzleannie]

Thanks, but it would need to be run by traditionalists, if only small and mostly run by religious.

you may want to reconsider nursing home aide or nurse as a career if you find yourself unable to serve patients no matter what their religious background.

to find employment look into nursing homes under the auspices of Catholic church based ethnic or fraternal organizations

 

[Chatter163]

Considering the shrinking number of qualified, to say nothing of affordable, care providers in all areas, I would be pleased to find any competent and afforable facility. Look at how the number of Catholic hospitals has dwindled over the last two decades in most areas. There are fewer and fewer quality choices out there, so holding out for a “traditional” Catholic nursing facility virtually guarantees that one will come up empty-handed.

 

[foolishmortal]

I’m not holding out for anything. I was just asking if one exists. There couldn’t be that many, if you want all staff to be believers.
I think, when a question like this is brought out, the ecumenical people freak out and think you dislike non-Catholics, but I believe traditionalists would acknowledge the differences between faiths. In fact, it’s really a sign of respect for people of other faiths to not act like theirs is not much different than others. There’s a reason they’re not of another faith and it it, at least once, was based on concern about what the truths are. I think we’ve made people lukewarm about truth, but zealous for forcing bonds of unity where they don’t exist (and verbally attacking those who see otherwise, as I was for only looking for Catholics, which should be our top priority, especially when there’s a small number in a non-Catholic home), with all this common ground crud. There’s 1 percent of genetic difference between us and chimps. Like religion, a tiny percentile can create an ocean of divide between faiths and we should respect that by not mixing up what doesn’t mix, though I’m for Protestants coming to Catholic services. The problem lies with dealing with the following types of Catholics who work these services, who don’t seem bothered if a non-Catholic receives Jesus:
One such Catholic volunteer told a Methodist resident there’s not much difference between our faiths. She shook her head and said that this (the rosary service) was very strange. She, nevertheless, came the next time. Still, I’m for resident rights and I don’t believe staff should cart in residents without asking them into a service not their own, or to any activity, without asking. I realize, though, some nurses are trying to be helpful.
Ultimately, the soul’s care is more important than getting the best healthcare where one’s faith isn’t that respected as being special, at least to the believer (some just don’t care and it’s surprising how many elderly Catholic residents of sound-enough mind don’t go to Catholic services, where there’s only one a week). I’m sure at least one Catholic nursing home will be good in any city. This was the problem with the Land O Lakes Conference (catholichistory.net/Events/LandOLakesStatement.htm), though: the worldly concern of providing students (it was about university students, but it’s obviously expanded to lower education, as well) the best secular education in town, regardless of whether The Faith or any subject, where one’s beliefs can be applied, like science, history and even P.E., is taught poorly or even contradicted by some lukewarm or heretics.

 

[Chatter163]

I think that few, if any, had been motivated by issues raised in the OP’s last post. Rather than a mania for ecumenism or political correctness, I think that most of our replies were occaasioned by the simply reality that few or no such facilities exist in the USA or many other places. Most traditional orders would never have the enormous resources needed to operate such a facility in this day and age, which is the same reason that there is a decreasing Catholic presence in the health care industry.