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Nate13
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yeah unnecessary and deleted. The “don’t judge” crowd is getting to me
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rturner76
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Nazi’s that’s rich…what else you got? You know the Pope at the time ordered the killing of those Jews right? That’s why they had to be burned, so they could be purified. That’s what I heard.
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Nate13
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42 million vs. 6 million… and your judging the Pope now…
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rturner76
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The breath of life was never breathed into their noses. It’s not pretty, but it’s a right women have. Now go and sin no more
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Nate13
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Haha to prevent derailing the thread further I won’t push you on when you believe life begins because this thread is supposed to be about pro-choice Catholics not pro-choice Episcopalians
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rturner76
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Hey, that Methodist Episcopailian. Just Episcopal in structure. Methodist at heart. African by segregation a long time ago. Point taken. What do you expect? I can’t be expected to keep the high moral standards of a Catholic now can I? hehe
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Nate13
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lol some Protestants can be very puritan and you might find their moral standards harder to stand up too. I hope you will forgive me for the analogy I used earlier as well. The “don’t judge” line really gets old though and is usually just a replacement for “don’t tell me what I’m doing is wrong”. Why don’t you start a thread on pro-choice African Methodist Episcopalians and we can discuss why you believe some humans aren’t human
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I’ll let you guys get back to thrashing teenage girls. It’s not really my issue, I just saw so many comments going one way I had to stir the pot. I do apologize for any offence and I do think human life is sacred. I will guarantee on my life I will never have an abortion! Ever!lol some Protestants can be very puritan and you might find their moral standards harder to stand up too. I hope you will forgive me for the analogy I used earlier as well. The “don’t judge” line really gets old though and is usually just a replacement for “don’t tell me what I’m doing is wrong”. Why don’t you start a thread on pro-choice African Methodist Episcopalians and we can discuss why you believe some humans aren’t human
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Haha thats kind of like asking whether I can empathize with the guy who kills his boss because his boss is going to fire him and his life will be completely and absolutely ruined because of it. Be on the street living in a cardboard box kind of ruined. Yeah, sure I can understand his reasoning for wanting to kill his boss. Yeah, I can understand a teenage girl who doesn’t want to have a child which will completely turn her life upside down. I didn’t see an “but” after the Fifth Commandment though and if you only follow the Commandments when their easy you don’t follow them at all. It is not loving to help another person commit a sin that could put them in Hell.I’ll let you guys get back to thrashing teenage girls. It’s not really my issue, I just saw so many comments going one way I had to stir the pot. I do apologize for any offence and I do think human life is sacred. I will guarantee on my life I will never have an abortion! Ever!
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“You shall not stand with the great against the powerless.” (from The Winslow Boy, David Mamet) and my meaning here in quoting that is that the innocent unborn child is the powerless one here. Who speaks for the child? Who shall protect him or her?
As to your mention of* mutilation,* that is what happens during an abortion, to the defenseless, unborn child as well as to a mother who seeks to tear the child from her womb. Whether performed in a sterile environment or otherwise, an innocent child is slaughtered. Tens of millions of innocent unborn have been murdered since abortion was legalized.
Before they drew one breath of life, they were slaughtered, many for the sake of “convenience.” many out of fear, most out of ignorance. We must work to make a world where defenseless ones and their mothers are welcomed and cared for. All across the country are Birthright vans and couples longing to adopt. These are choices for the good. The Catholic Church chooses life. And for those who have fallen, there is forgiveness. Rachel’s Vineyard seeks to bring compassion to those who chose the evil of abortion. God judges, we must honor His call to life and holiness, forgiveness, and learn the error of our ways.
Speaking of stones, scriptures tells us that if we “harm a child, it would be better that a large millstone be tied around the neck” and we be “dropped in the ocean.”
As to* judging others?* No, we must judge ourselves and pray to be accountable to God, and not allow laws to be passed which purvey murder, genocide and slaughter of the innocents in the guise of natural “rights” or “choice.”
As to high and mighty? We follow Christ, because He said we are to be like Him, and He is “meek and lowly of heart.” God alone is mighty. We seek only to serve Him.
God spoke once to a man and said “I knew you in your mother’s womb.” From before the cradle to beyond the grave, the universal love that makes up the Catholic Church is there to protect all, whether infant, elderly, infirm or those at the height of their strength.
"Cast the first stone," you said? I would rather invite you to the fullness of love. “Perfect love hath no fear.” It is sad that so many choose abortion out of fear for their future. I pray that we all work to make a world where the evil of abortion bows to the law of love and life.
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