Are there recent Eastern saints?

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Has [Fathi Baladi ](http://www.mliles.com/melkite/indexsa(name removed by moderator)rocess.shtml)been mentioned?

I don’t know much about his cause - only having read about it in a few places… I was of the impression efforts are still underway to see to his canonization. I could be wrong. Any info, Neil?
 
Us maronites are filled with saints. Rafka and Namitallah Hardini are the most recent. Including our favorite Sharbel and the two Masabki brothers. They were martyred in Syria. God bless the Maronites in the Holy Qadisha valley in Lebanon!! Much love to all my Catholic brothers and sisters, Eastern and Western.
bpbasilphx said:
Let’s not forget the recently glorified Maronite saints: Rafqa, Charbel, and Hardini.
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AOA_soldier said:
Us maronites are filled with saints. Rafka and Namitallah Hardini are the most recent. Including our favorite Sharbel and the two Masabki brothers. They were martyred in Syria. God bless the Maronites in the Holy Qadisha valley in Lebanon!! Much love to all my Catholic brothers and sisters, Eastern and Western.
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Weren’t there three Masabkis?
 
Irish_Melkite said:
Of the 40 Albanian martyrs on the third page of the Martyrs Killed in odium fidei under the Communists - 3, Papa Josif Mihali (listed as #28) is a priest of the Albanian Greek-Catholic Church.

I am very certain that the Jesuit priests and religious listed at nos. 5, 7, and 18 were ascribed to the Society’s Eastern Provinces and the Albanian Greek-Catholic Church.

As to the 9 Friars Minor listed there, I am less certain. There were OFM clerics ascribed to some Eastern Churches, including that of the Albanian Greek-Catholics; some or all of these may have been among those.

The other hierarchs, abbot, clergy, and laypersons listed are of the Albanian Catholic Church (Latin).

The 48 martyrs on the fourth page of the Martyrs Killed in odium fidei under the Communists - 4 are described as of the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church and all except 2 are of that Church. However, those listed as nos. 17 and 38 are Byzantine Ruthenian Catholics of the Eparchy of Mukachevo of the Ruthenians.

All of those listed on the fifth page of the Martyrs Killed in odium fidei under the Communists - 5 are of the Latin Church.

On the sixth page of the Martyrs Killed in odium fidei under the Communists - 6, the 10 listed in the first subset and described as of the Archdiocese of Alba Iulia are of the Romanian Greek-Catholic Church. All others on that page are of the Latin Church.

I believe that all of the Friars Minor listed on the seventh page of the Martyrs Killed in odium fidei under the Communists - 7 are of the Latin Church.
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Intersting that you mention the Albanian Greek Catholics. I was cleaning out my step-fathers great grand uncle’s house (my grandfather’s uncle!–did you get all that?) and he was a devout Roman Catholic of German origin. One of his relatives was the Cardinal of Alsace-Lorraine. Anyway, I came across a photograph from the 1940’s of an Albanian Bishop being escorted out of his car. I’m not sure who took it, but it was an original, not a copy. I know that he was an Albanian Bishop because it was labelled on the back (he kept everything in meticulous condition). I wonder if he was a martyr? I don’t know whether or not he was Catholic or Orthodox. I wish it had his name on it, but I don’t think it does. I can’t seem to locate it…😦 It’s definately around, but I’m not sure where…

Prayers and petitions,
Alexius:cool:
 
How embarasing! Thats what you get trying to type and walk out the door at the same time. Yes there was, in the massacres of the 1860’s in Damascus. I think their feast is on July 10
ASimpleSinner said:
Weren’t there three Masabkis?
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Alexius said:
Intersting that you mention the Albanian Greek Catholics. I was cleaning out my step-fathers great grand uncle’s house (my grandfather’s uncle!–did you get all that?) and he was a devout Roman Catholic of German origin. One of his relatives was the Cardinal of Alsace-Lorraine. Anyway, I came across a photograph from the 1940’s of an Albanian Bishop being escorted out of his car. I’m not sure who took it, but it was an original, not a copy. I know that he was an Albanian Bishop because it was labelled on the back (he kept everything in meticulous condition). I wonder if he was a martyr? I don’t know whether or not he was Catholic or Orthodox. I wish it had his name on it, but I don’t think it does. I can’t seem to locate it…😦 It’s definately around, but I’m not sure where…
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Alexius,

If you can find and post a copy, together with whatever info is on the reverse, I might be able to tell you something about it. Is there a reason that you believe the bishop might have been Eastern (vesture, perhaps)?

Frano Gujini, Abbott nullius of the Territorial Abbey of Shen Llezhri i Oroshit (since canonically suppressed) and later Bishop of Lezhe, was among the Latin Albanians martyred in odium fidei. There was no Albanian Byzantine bishop at the time - the Albanian Greek-Catholics were under the pastoral care of the Latin Apostolic Delegate.

Many years,

Neil
 
ASimpleSinner said:
Has [Fathi Baladi ](http://www.mliles.com/melkite/indexsa(name removed by moderator)rocess.shtml)been mentioned?

I don’t know much about his cause - only having read about it in a few places… I was of the impression efforts are still underway to see to his canonization. I could be wrong. Any info, Neil?
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As you can see from the info on Martha’s site, Fathi’s cause was initially committed to Archbishop Boutros (Rai), of blessed memory. Archbishop Boutros was an odd choice - given that he was not well-situated geographically to pursue it. (He was Eparch of Nuestra Señora del Paraíso en México of the Melkites and Fathi was killed in Lebanon). After the Archbishop’s repose, the responsibility was transferred to Archbishop Habib (Bacha), SMSP, also now of blessed memory, and has seemingly gone dormant since Archbishop Habib’s repose.

I would note that Fathi’s cause illustrates an issue for me that I’m unsure I can explain. With all due respect for his memory, and for his family - which includes his cousin (Bishop Nick (Samra) of whom I am very fond), his death is one of a type that I find difficult to reconcile with the concept of martyrdom.

He was killed at a time of politico-sectarian unrest in the Middle East. Was he killed because of his faith? Possibly. Was it done in odium fidei - in hatred of the faith? Possibly. But, there are no witnesses of whom I’m aware; did his killers challenge his faith or was his death a random expression of dislike for Catholics? And, if so, is that the criterion for martyrdom in odium fidei? Is every victim of murder in sectarian violence a martyr? Or, must there be a specific intent to express hatred of the faith, intended to be achieved through the death of this Christian? I don’t know the answer, nor am I sure that I’m making myself clear.

And how does one separate the political aspects from the sectarian? Certainly, hundreds of Middle Eastern Catholics - Melkite, Maronite, and Syriac have died during the unrest, Is each a martyr?

Many years,

Neil
 
Irish_Melkite said:
Alexius,

If you can find and post a copy, together with whatever info is on the reverse, I might be able to tell you something about it. Is there a reason that you believe the bishop might have been Eastern (vesture, perhaps)?

Frano Gujini, Abbott nullius of the Territorial Abbey of Shen Llezhri i Oroshit (since canonically suppressed) and later Bishop of Lezhe, was among the Latin Albanians martyred in odium fidei. There was no Albanian Byzantine bishop at the time - the Albanian Greek-Catholics were under the pastoral care of the Latin Apostolic Delegate.

Many years,

Neil
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The Bishop’s vestures were definately Eastern. I’m still looking for the picture. Will try to post when I find it…
 
Ridgerunner said:
Where can I find more information on these? My daughter is very religious and very interested in the Eastern Catholic Churches. If there were any Eastern Ctholic parishes anywhere around here, she would likely attend liturgies. But I thought perhaps if I got some information on the Eastern Catholic saints, she would be appreciative.
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We never Google here :rolleyes: But you might Search Eastern Catholic, Byzantine Catholic, etc. Eastern Faiths list the Locations of their Churches. The ‘problem’ is there are about 22 “Eastern Catholic” ‘sects’ in comunion with the Vatican. Their Divine Liturgy (Mass), their Communion done Their way count same as ours. Or Search your own Diocese for Eastern rite parishes. Are a couple listed in My Diocese. They are in Union with the Vatican, and we treat them as full equals, organizationally also. :byzsoc:
 
AOA_soldier said:
Us maronites are filled with saints. Rafka and Namitallah Hardini are the most recent. Including our favorite Sharbel and the two Masabki brothers. They were martyred in Syria. God bless the Maronites in the Holy Qadisha valley in Lebanon!! Much love to all my Catholic brothers and sisters, Eastern and Western.
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:amen: :blessyou: :byzsoc: :crossrc: A Roman Rite Catholic who gets just as ‘emotionally appreciative’ at Eastern and Orthodox Liturgies. We are all Same ancient apostolic powers Of Our Lord Himself in our Sacraments, Liturgies in different ancient rites.

This OP, thread is so enlightening and enriching to all
 
St. Alphonse was a religious sister in the Syro-Malabar Church who was canonized this year. I think there’s a few other prominent causes in the Syro-Malabar Church.

St. Alphonse is the first native born Indian Catholic Saint. The Malankara Orthodox have a few native born Indian saints already. The patron saint of the Malankara Orthodox Church is St. Gregorius of Paramula. St. Dionysius was important in the struggle to establish the Malankara Orthodox Church as an autocephalous Church, but also created divisions with the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church.

The father of Syro-Malankara reunion, Mar Ivanios is currently a “Servant of God.”
 
The Maronites have 2-3 saints from the 1800s, and a new one that was beatified this year.

freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2035034/posts

maronite-heritage.com/html/st__rafqa.html

maronite-heritage.com/html/st__nimatullah.html
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Just a clarification on the 3 steps to sainthood in the Catholic Church (East and West):

(1) Declaration that a person is “Venerable,” where such person died a martyr for the faith or died of heoric virtues. An example would be the Venerable John Henry Cardinal Newman who died not as a martyr but of heroic virtues. Many of the recent “Venerables” from the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church died as marytrs.

(2) If one mircale is attributed to such “Venerable,” he/she is beatified and called “Blessed.” Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta is a prime example.

(3) If another miracle is attributed to a “Blessed,” he/she is canonized and called a “Saint.” St. Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio)comes immediately to mind.

The Congregation for the Causes of Saints, a curial dicastery, supervises the processes.
 
Hi, i’m JMartyr. I’d like to know whether there are any specific sites I can go to where i can look up Eastern Catholic/Orthodox saints and their stories.

Thanks.
 
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