Are thoughts themselves sinful?

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I’m confused as to whether or not thinking bad thoughts is itself a sin. I’m getting different answers from different sources, where some are telling me that yes, thinking bad thoughts is wrong, and yet other places say that bad thoughts themselves aren’t wrong as long as you don’t act upon them. I struggle in this area of my life a lot, and would like some clarification. Are there some bad thoughts that we can still think about as long as we don’t act upon them? Are there other thoughts that, regardless of whether we act on them or not, are totally wrong and we should dismiss immediately?
 
Thoughts that wander in and out of our imaginations are not sinful. However, *voluntary *thoughts, insofar as we will to think them, can be sinful if they are about sinning.

But, if a thought comes in and each time you notice you are thinking about something sinful you react *against * it, then that shows that it is not voluntary because you are fighting against it and not willing to do it.
 
Human beings are creatures of mind and of body. Thus, they will be judged by their actions of the mind and of the body.

Since we use our minds in decision making processes, then what we think will have a factor in our eternal judgement.
 
… thinking bad thoughts is wrong, and yet other places say that bad thoughts themselves aren’t wrong as long as you don’t act upon them.
I think it really depends on what you mean by “thinking bad thoughts”.

If someone cuts me off in traffic, I could very well be thinking, “What a jerk! He deserves a ticket for his driving.” Well, that’s not really a terrific thought to be having. But it could have been out of my mind for three minutes before I’d even realized what I’d thought. (Frankly, it could also be a form of justified anger, especially if you’re upset at the sort of consequences his driving may lead to, both for himself and for others.)

On the other hand, I could think to myself, “Idiot driver! If I could get away with it, I would run him off the road.” I could then proceed to fantasize about what that would be like, and how sorry he’d be, and how he’d think twice before cutting someone off ever again. I could fantasize about that despite knowing full well that I was encouraging the thought, and it wasn’t just passing through my mind. I could even keep thinking about it after I’d cooled down.

Lastly, I could also think, “What a moron! You know, I’m so sick of these people, I’m gonna teach him a lesson by running him off the road.” I could then proceed to speed up and attempt to catch him. After a minute or two, I could have second thoughts, and I could slow down and leave the guy alone. Maybe I suddenly realized how much trouble I could get into.

All three of these scenarios would be different levels of imperfections or sin in thought. The first one is probably just an imperfection and a temptation. The second and third could be mortal sins. In the first of the two, the sin would at least be dwelling on sinful thoughts and temptations; and in the second, for **intending **to commit a mortal sin/for committing a mortal sin in will, but not in action.

Not acting upon a sinful thought is, of course, something we should all be doing. But that may take the form of resisting a temptation, or it may take the form of dwelling on a temptation for the sake of pleasure, but without committing the sin in action, or it may involve intending to commit a sin but then “chickening out”. There may very well be moral culpability for the latter two forms; and if your thoughts involve mortal sin, it would be grave matter to indulge them.
 
Penitent: “Bless me Father, for I have sinned. I had bad thoughts.”

Priest: “Did you entertain them?”

Penitent: “No, Father. They entertained me.” 😛
 
I’m confused as to whether or not thinking bad thoughts is itself a sin. I’m getting different answers from different sources, where some are telling me that yes, thinking bad thoughts is wrong, and yet other places say that bad thoughts themselves aren’t wrong as long as you don’t act upon them. I struggle in this area of my life a lot, and would like some clarification. Are there some bad thoughts that we can still think about as long as we don’t act upon them? Are there other thoughts that, regardless of whether we act on them or not, are totally wrong and we should dismiss immediately?
Yes, thoughts can be sinful. Look at what Jesus says about it:

Matthew 5:28

28 But I say to you, everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
 
I think it really depends on what you mean by “thinking bad thoughts”.

If someone cuts me off in traffic, I could very well be thinking, “What a jerk! He deserves a ticket for his driving.” Well, that’s not really a terrific thought to be having. But it could have been out of my mind for three minutes before I’d even realized what I’d thought. (Frankly, it could also be a form of justified anger, especially if you’re upset at the sort of consequences his driving may lead to, both for himself and for others.)

On the other hand, I could think to myself, “Idiot driver! If I could get away with it, I would run him off the road.” I could then proceed to fantasize about what that would be like, and how sorry he’d be, and how he’d think twice before cutting someone off ever again. I could fantasize about that despite knowing full well that I was encouraging the thought, and it wasn’t just passing through my mind. I could even keep thinking about it after I’d cooled down.

Lastly, I could also think, “What a moron! You know, I’m so sick of these people, I’m gonna teach him a lesson by running him off the road.” I could then proceed to speed up and attempt to catch him. After a minute or two, I could have second thoughts, and I could slow down and leave the guy alone. Maybe I suddenly realized how much trouble I could get into.

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Yes, but what kind of trouble are you are most worried about…sinning or police getting involved (mans law)? I think most people avoid such things only due to concerns about getting into trouble in the secular world.

I can relate to this, as I deal with heavy traffic on the way home nearly every day, Im constantly angry, find myself honking my horn, wondering what some people are thinking, etc. Sure, I have thought about running them off the road, but I have never done such a thing, and hope I never do, but I cant honestly say its NOT SIN that stops me, its getting arrested, loosing my job, going to jail that have me the most worried…I think maybe that is not a good thing. This shows Im more concerned with mans laws.
 
I’m confused as to whether or not thinking bad thoughts is itself a sin. I’m getting different answers from different sources, where some are telling me that yes, thinking bad thoughts is wrong, and yet other places say that bad thoughts themselves aren’t wrong as long as you don’t act upon them. I struggle in this area of my life a lot, and would like some clarification. Are there some bad thoughts that we can still think about as long as we don’t act upon them? Are there other thoughts that, regardless of whether we act on them or not, are totally wrong and we should dismiss immediately?
Here is an excerpt from an explanation on the NewAdvent.org website which you may find helpful. A simple test in determining the sinfulness of your thoughts is to ask yourself what is your motive in thinking the thought. If the thought has a good purpose to help you better serve God and neighbor, then it is good. If dwelling on the thought is something sinful like, e.g., lust or revenge, and has a tendency to make one focus on oneself instead of serving God and neighbor, then the thought may be sinful.

Temptations often arise to dwell on sinful thoughts and many times enter into our minds without our willing it. No sin is involved if one dislikes the thought no matter how tempting it may be and readily turns one’s attention to something else that is morally neutral or good.

"Internal sins

That sin may be committed not only by outward deeds but also by the inner activity of the mind apart from any external manifestation, is plain from the precept of the Decalogue: “Thou shalt not covet”, and from Christ’s rebuke of the scribes and pharisees whom he likens to “whited sepulchres… full of all filthiness” (Matthew 23:27). Hence the Council of Trent (Sess. XIV, c. v), in declaring that all mortal sins must be confessed, makes special mention of those that are most secret and that violate only the last two precepts of the Decalogue, adding that they “sometimes more grievously wound the soul and are more dangerous than sins which are openly committed”. Three kinds of internal sin are usually distinguished:

•delectatio morosa, i.e. the pleasure taken in a sinful thought or imagination even without desiring it;

•gaudium, i.e. dwelling with complacency on sins already committed; and

•desiderium, i.e. the desire for what is sinful.

An efficacious desire, i.e. one that includes the deliberate intention to realize or gratify the desire, has the same malice, mortal or venial, as the action which it has in view. An inefficacious desire is one that carries a condition, in such a way that the will is prepared to perform the action in case the condition were verified. When the condition is such as to eliminate all sinfulness from the action, the desire involves no sin: e.g. I would gladly eat meat on Friday, if I had a dispensation; and in general this is the case whenever the action is forbidden by positive law only. When the action is contrary to natural law and yet is permissible in given circumstances or in a particular state of life, the desire, if it include those circumstances or that state as conditions, is not in itself sinful: e.g. I would kill so-and-so if I had to do it in self-defence. Usually, however, such desires are dangerous and therefore to be repressed. If, on the other hand, the condition does not remove the sinfulness of the action, the desire is also sinful. This is clearly the case where the action is intrinsically and absolutely evil, e.g. blasphemy: one cannot without committing sin, have the desire — I would blaspheme God if it were not wrong; the condition is an impossible one and therefore does not affect the desire itself. The pleasure taken in a sinful thought (delectatio, gaudium) is, generally speaking, a sin of the same kind and gravity as the action which is thought of. Much, however, depends on the motive for which one thinks of sinful actions. The pleasure, e.g. which one may experience in studying the nature of murder or any other crime, in getting clear ideas on the subject, tracing its causes, determining the guilt etc., is not a sin; on the contrary, it is often both necessary and useful. The case is different of course where the pleasure means gratification in the sinful object or action itself. And it is evidently a sin when one boasts of his evil deeds, the more so because of the scandal that is given."

Here is a link which gives the full context: newadvent.org/cathen/14004b.htm

May God bless you.

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