Are we all a little too hypocritical and worldly?

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After all, federal and state governments didn’t have a plan in place for having gear in an event like this. The cost wasn’t worth it apparently, but the end result will be that it will cost them many, many multiples of what the initial cost would have been.
The problem my friend is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Govt (federal and/or states) to be prepared to save all people.

They can only realistically prepare to save key people to keep society moving.

It is up to each of us to protect our families. However, far too many people today (myself included) are totally dependent on society for all our needs. From our dependence on Grocery Stores to electricity, we have forgotten how to live directly from God’s creation.

This means that in a worse epidemic (like ebola, the plague, etc) there is nothing the govts can do to protect us if we take zero precautions ourselves.
 
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In fact there has been plans put in place by the federal gov. You might read through and see how much effort we put into preparing and how closely we followed the recommended plan with this current pandemic.

Was developed back in 2005 - 2006.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/pandemic-influenza-implementation.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/pandemic-influenza-strategy-2005.pdf
Yes. But that’s a flu pandemic.

I said the Ebola or the Plague. I was not referring to a flu
 
Much of the same precautions and planning translate right over. Did you read the plan?
It’s 233 pages long. So no, I didn’t read it. Plus, the plans you post assumes we will still have utilities, etc. They don’t include what happens if our power grid is attacked by our enemies during a pandemic & if our clean water supply is contaminated at the same time.

It doesn’t matter what the govt says. OF COURSE they are going to TRY to save everyone. But it is impossible to do so.

You will never have zero deaths in a pandemic. And it’s hard to avoid 100,000+ deaths. And if there is a real bad virus like the plague (or worse), it’s impossible for the govt to protect everyone.

Every one of the govt’s mediation plans REQUIRE the cooperation of the people.

My point: far too many people are NOT prepared to protect their families in an emergency. Far too many are dependent on societal functions. Far too many people don’t have a month’s worth of food reserves (let alone 2 weeks). Far too many Americans have 1 week worth of food (or less in their homes)

For example: let’s say world war 3 happens. How many Americans are prepared to live of the land if they survive the nuclear holocaust?
  • How many know how to hunt without modern guns?
  • How many know how to build bow & arrows?
  • How many know how to create gunpowder?
  • How many know how to hunt with a spear?
  • How many know how to recognize plants that can be eaten vs poisonous ones?
  • How many know which insects they can eat vs poisonous ones?
  • How many know how to build a shelter without modern tools?
  • How many know how to farm the land without any modern tools?
My simple point is that we (as a society) have LOST a lot of knowledge our predecessors had. Most of us lack the knowledge to live off the land.
 
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inconvenient truth(s) and remaining hopeful

we have to keep in mind it’s easier to destroy things,
building stuff is much, much, much harder!!!

another sad fact of the matter is, there are far too many
who basically are Darwin Award candidates



and don’t have a clue what real hardship or sacrifice is,…

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having pointed out the inconvenient truth(s), when this mess is over
actually think things will be much better because people will realize
the difference between a “want” vs a “need” along w/ realizing the fact that
the path we were on was unsustainable AND solutions only happen
when there is corporation and acceptance of hard science (as is the
case where people have to work together to find a vaccine)

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That said, I do think the aid should be restricted to those who are actually affected. I’m still employed and so is my husband, so our $1200 payments are going to charity.
Be wise. (This is a Scriptural principle as well as a secular principle.)

As hard as it is to imagine, it’s very possible that we can lose the jobs we thought were secure. It’s happened to several people we know. And on Friday, my husband was asked to take a 10% pay cut in order to keep his job (demand for the computer services that his company offers are waaay down and there isn’t as much work right now). He agreed to take the cut and keep his job, but who knows when the next call will come telling him that there’s no more work.

Financial advisers on all sides are telling people to try to build up a supply of cash (in the bank, not at home!) during this crisis just in case.

If several weeks or months from now, it turns out that you don’t need the cash, THEN donate it to charity–it will still be needed!

But for now, be wise. Cutting expenses is one way to build up some cash. But there is no wrong in accepting a check from the government that you have supported with your tax monies for years.
 
But for now, be wise. Cutting expenses is one way to build up some cash. But there is no wrong in accepting a check from the government that you have supported with your tax monies for years.
You’re correct. I should have also said that I have no debt and cash on hand to live for quite a while.
 
Do we really need all the things we have, do we really use them all? Could we have made better use of the money spent on X if we had taken the time to really think about the purchase.
I definitely agree with you.

As we are in our 60s and making some real plans for retirement (not for several years yet, God willing)–we are looking at all our “junk” in the basement–stuff that at one time, we apparently thought we needed. Now it’s just taking up a lot of space in the basement, and we are trying to figure out whether we should just get rid of it or start using it.

Getting rid of “junk” is not necessarily easy–the thrift shops are full of the same kind of junk–knick knacks, holiday decorations, household decor, videos (VHS!), furniture, tools (lots of tools!), kitchen utensils, various kitchen machines that were supposed to revolutionize the way we cooked,toys, picture frames and other household “art” decor, books, clothing, business supplies and machines, more tools, organizational aids—ai yi yi!

Our basement probably has enough junk to fully fill another house!

I love watching HGTV (at work–we don’t have cable TV at home), but I cringe when the various stars describe a house as “outdated and in need of modernizing”. In ten years, the modern rehab that they do on the houses (costing tens of thousands of dollars) will be outdated and in need of modernizing!

When my husband and I were first married, we were lucky that a movement called “Simple Lifestyle” was sweeping the globe, and authors like Doris Jantzen Longacre (R.I.P.) were publishing books describing how to live more simply, and Christian leaders like Billy Graham were taking the “simplicity” pledges.

In one of her books, Ms. Longacre expressed her dislike of the phrase “decorating a home.” She suggested that a home shouldn’t be filled with the latest furniture and artwork trends, draperies, wall treatments and colors, etc., but instead, should be filled with colors, artwork, furniture, etc. that is MEANINGFUL to those who live there.

We have followed her advice all these years. At this moment, I am sitting at a desk that i bought at a second hand shop in my hometown (it’s painted bright green), and I’m looking at a painting (definitely amateur) of the Blessed Mother that my husband and I bought at a church rummage sale several years ago, and at a collage that my son-in-law and daughter made that lists our “House Rules”–e.g., “Potato chips make a fine breakfast, and chips and dip are a perfectly acceptable dinner!” I also have collection of beautiful green vaseline glass on a shelf next to me that cheers me up, and a Boston fern that my brother gave me (he’s rough and tough, but he loves flowers and plants!).

It would horrify the HGTV celebs–but I love it! And it was all very, very cheap!
 
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