Are we losing the pro-life battle?

[elts1956]

First let me say that I am extremely Pro-life. I do not think abortion should be allowed in any case. Including rape, incest, or deformity. Only to save the mother’s life in extreme cases (ectopic pregnancy is really the only case) and that involved removing damaged tissue.

I live on the west coast in the pacific northwest, and as everyone knows, we are one of the most liberal, non-christian regions in the country so I may be despairing a but here. But we’ll see what you think.

From what I can see, we are not gaining any ground in the protection of the unborn. It REALLY sucks, and for me it is incredibly infuriating. Something I was thinking while discussing this with a rather pro-choice friend of mine was abandoning the recriminalization for now. Don’t get me wrong, I will ALWAYS vote pro-life, and I will ALWAYS support the recriminalization of it. But what if we focus our energy and funding MORE on trying to support women when faced with a “tough” decision. We work to try to eliminate the need for abortion, and change the opinions of the people so when, years down the road, the opinions have shifted, and the number of abortions goes down, it can be recriminalized, eliminatingthe few who are left that would still do such a horrible thing.

I think it is ironic and more than very sad that the US will promote abortion over giving that funding to support the mothers in need. bo is right, as of now, we are no longer a Christian NATION.

 

[hienieboo]

Interestingly, for the first time ever – a majority of Americans identified themselves as pro-life versus pro-choice in a major poll this year.

So, we’re actually gaining ground and winning minds.

Although, if you live in a very liberalized climate I think you have to use different tactics than you do elsewhere. You have to frame the issue in liberal terms – e.g. “abortion hurts women”. There are many good examples of that.

One thing I think we are losing though is a common understanding among people who don’t share our faith. That group is becoming more polarized against religion in general, and it’s much harder to reach them with just the secular arguments (and there are many good ones) against abortion.

you make a very great point… i have seen a lot of arguments in these forums about
these concerns… reaching out towards the issue is a great thing, but actually
making harsh statements isn’t going to get anywhere… i do believe that abortion
isn’t right… some women decide to have abortion for all the wrong reasons…
it shouldn’t be able that.

 

[Aboveallbereal]

I have a friend who became Catholic after experiencing the liberalism in the Pacific Northwest. She said some women take abortion as a right of passage. It is there right, so they do it. She suspected from their zeal, some may have even gotten pregnant to have an abortion. Unbelievable. Because of that experience, she was drawn to the Church by its strong anti-abortion stand.

Stats are saying there are more pro-lifers now than before Obama became President. Maybe the Notre Dame scandal made people think. I personally support the denial of communion and the public excommunication of politicians who support abortion while claiming to be Catholic. The Bishops seem to be waffling on that issue. Go figure.

Ray Arroyo, The World Over on EWTN, had a discussion featuring a professor from Princeton, Robert George, and another from Pepperdine U., CA. Amazing how much more liberal was the Pepperdine prof than the Princeton prof. Maybe it is something in the water? It was on last night. Maybe you can catch the encore presentation. Worth seeing.

Soi disant notional catholics who openly vote for and campaign for abortion ought to be denied communion due to wilful and grievous error. However the bishops quail at the prospect of Liberal humanism ( the de facto religion of those in question ) being given a stick with which to beat the nasty old “judgmental” RC Church.

The bishiops need to stiffen their backbones. If standing up to some powerful politicians publicly means a drift away by a percentage of “a la cartes” then so be it - they are gonme in all but name anyway so au revoir and welcome back should you want back in. The paraphrase a wiser man than me shake the dust from your feet.