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Image_of_God
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Just wondering.
Are we supposed to bow during the Nicene Creed and beat our breasts during the Penitential Rite?
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AJV
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The GIRM says
The rubrics within the Ordinary of the Mass in the missal say tat the breast should be struck at the words “through my own fault” in Form A of the Pentiential rite i.e. “I confess…”
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m134e5
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You don’t want to go overboard with it either. Don’t strike your breast so hard it makes a noise or anything. Don’t bow too low or too long either (remember what the person behind you has to look at if you bow for a long time and they don’t- they lean up to see your behind right in front of them (yes, I’ve seen it- and when I did, I moved…quickly!)
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Image_of_God
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Good thing there are pews!!!
Another question. Do they bow in the Tridentine Mass at this time and do they beat their breasts during the Penitential rite?
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AJV
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They genuflect.
Good thing there are pews!!!
Another question. Do they bow in the Tridentine Mass at this time
The bow is replaced with a genuflection in the NO on two days, Christmas and the Annunciation. On these days in the Traditional Mass, the priest genuflects on both knees.
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Image_of_God
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Another question: What are communion rails? Are they used in the NO?
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sphilomena
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The communion rail might be so rare that you have not seen one (due to misinterpretation of documents and “modernizing”). It goes back to our Jewish heritage, separating the Holy of Holies from the rest of the temple. Only the high(?) priest could enter. It remained at my previous parish till the bishop got his way there also. Now the altar rail, high altar, and tabernacle are gone.
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Dauphin
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And it’s for kneeling to receive communion.
I’m really bewildered as to why people want to throw away the tabernacle. Is there something offensive to these people about placing the Eucharist in a visible place? Should we be worshipping eachother instead of God?
When I attended Catholic school in the mid to late 1960’s the sisters were pretty thorough about teaching us how to behave at Mass, including required and optional pious behaviors. But for some reason the concept of genuflecting or bowing during the Nicene Creed was not simply not taught. I suppose it was there in the missal but when the sisters never said anything and I didn’t observe anyone doing so, I just tuned out I saw. I think my experience was typical, at least for this part of the country. Whatever people think about us now, 1960s era Southern California parishes were more orthodox than many of those in other major US metropolitan areas.
Our parish song books do have Mass parts in them but almost no one ever looks at them except to sing. Our pastor made a comment once about two or three years ago to the effect that we ought to bow but he’s never said a word since then.
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allaussie
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I am somewhat surprised at the removal of the Tabernacle, although perhaps security could be an issue, a few months ago the tabernacle was actually stolen from our church, the police eventually found it by the side of the road out of town very severely damaged (at least partly by somebody prying it open). I was rather confused as to why somebody would want to steal it (there’s not much earthly value in there and if it had been somebody who hated the Church they would have done much more damage to other parts of the building) however as the police had apparently described it as a ‘safe’ when they found it, it finally clicked in my mind that other people mightn’t know what it was (they probably thought the collection money was kept in there or something). But otherwise I’m not sure why you wouldn’t have a tabernacle.
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Marian_Carroll
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And the topic is:
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palmas85
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Yes we are.
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xmydreamsfadex
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i bow with my body before recieving the Body and Blood of our Lord. should i just nod my head? i always thought the more you bow, the more respect you are giving whatever you are bowing too. like in karate.
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