Are we to bow during the Creed where it says "He was conceived and born of the Virgi

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I picked this up from “Ask an Apologist”.
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Courage_to_ride:
Why do most people not bow when you get to the middle portion of the Creed? The part where it says he was conceived and born of the virgin mary…???

I learned in RCIA that everyone should. My observation is that the priests do and about 2-4% of the congregations.

Whats up?
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Peggy Frye:
Your RCIA instructor is correct. Making a profound bow during the profession of faith at the words “by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary and became man” is part of the rubrics and should be followed. Perhaps you can approach your priest privately with your concern. I’m sure he’ll be willing to take the necessary steps to correct the problem.

The *General Instruction of the Roman Missal *no. 234 instructs the faithful to make a “profound bow” (from the waist) within the profession of faith at the words “by the power of the Holy Spirit”.
234. There are two kinds of bow, a bow of the head and a bow of the body:

a. A bow of the head is made when the three divine Persons are named together and at the name of Jesus, Mary and the saint in whose honor Mass is celebrated.

b. A bow of the body, or profound bow, is made: toward the altar if there is no tabernacle with the blessed sacrament; during the prayers, <Almighty God, cleanse> and <Lord God, we ask you to receive>; within the profession of faith at the words, ; in Eucharistic Prayer I (Roman Canon) at the words, <Almighty God, we pray>. The same kind of bow is made by the deacon when he asks the blessing before the gospel. In addition, the priest bends over slightly as he says the words of the Lord at the consecration.”

The USCCB explains what this bow signifies:

“In the Creed we are invited to bow at the words which commemorate the Incarnation: by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary and became man. This gesture signifies our profound respect and gratitude to Christ who, though God, did not hesitate to come among us as a human being, sharing our human condition in order to save us from sin and restore us to friendship with God. This gratitude is expressed with even greater solemnity on the Feast of the Annunciation of the Lord and on Christmas when we genuflect at these words.”

Click here for clarifications issued by the Sacred Congregation for Sacraments and Divine Worship (Notitiae) concerning this particular act of reverence.
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I wanted your thoughts"
 
I bow. But you cannot be denied communion if you don’t bow.
 
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katherine2:
I bow. But you cannot be denied communion if you don’t bow.
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Who said anything about denying communion? I doubt that anyone has been denied communion for not bowing during the creed 😛 .

I bow, as well. I’ve noticed that, whether the parish is considered “progressive/liberal” or “conservative” in our area (let’s not get into that again 🙂 ), almost no one bows. It seems pretty clear to me in the Missal. I would love to see the practice adopted by more parishioners.

God Bless,

Robert.
 
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rlg94086:
. . .I bow, as well. I’ve noticed that, whether the parish is considered “progressive/liberal” or “conservative” in our area (let’s not get into that again 🙂 ), almost no one bows. It seems pretty clear to me in the Missal. I would love to see the practice adopted by more parishioners.
. . .QUOTE] I would like to see it adopted by the celebrants. I think if the celbrant bowed the people would. 😉
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You missed the point. The question is:

DO YOU BOW DURING THE NICENE CREEDE?
 
Yes. I bow and I am teaching my children to bow during this part of the Creed.
 
Yes, I bow and was specifically instructed by our pastor to teach the First Communion class to bow too.

Hardly anyone else does though. 😦

And before anyone goes off on a tangent about keeping our minds on Mass instead of watching others, it’s hard not to notice unless you are sitting in the front row. 🙂
 
Now, will the smarter people here educate me on this? Is it correct that in the rubrics, the “bow” we are called to do here is a bow of the head, ( a nod in some people’s secular parlance) while the term used for a bow from the waist is a “profound bow”? I think I heard that somewhere but don’t remember for sure.
 
Joe Kelley:
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rlg94086:
. . .I bow, as well. I’ve noticed that, whether the parish is considered “progressive/liberal” or “conservative” in our area (let’s not get into that again 🙂 ), almost no one bows. It seems pretty clear to me in the Missal. I would love to see the practice adopted by more parishioners.
. . .QUOTE] I would like to see it adopted by the celebrants. I think if the celbrant bowed the people would. 😉
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Agreed. The first I noticed it was in Oregon, when my priest bowed. I hadn’t seen it before. That’s when I looked in the Missal, said “ah!” and started doing it myself.

God Bless,

Robert.
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My family bows
Our pastor bows (as did our Sacramental Minister we had before we recieved a pastor)
Our pastor has instructed all the people to bow

but… only 1-2% of the people bow during the creed.
 
I go to the TLM so everyone kneels. I bow if I am at a NO Mass.
Kathy
 
I bow, our priests bow, but almost no one else does… I always want to say something to people, but since this would be something perceived as “minor” by most people I don’t know how to do it without being taken to be too Pharisee-ical.

I have thought about approaching our pastor and asking to write short things for the bulletin such as “Why should we bow in the middle of the Creed?” and “Why do we genuflect when we enter our pew?” and so on… this reminds me of it again, so maybe I will actually try to do this.

Does anyone know if there are any resources online already that would make good bulletin inserts like that?

+veritas+
 
Yes, and ~70% of my parish does as well, at my parents house, very few do less!%…not suprising there, however.

If you look in the Missal, look up the Creed- it says to bow in praenthesis!
 
I’ll say 99-100% bowers in my parish. some from the head and some from the waste. woo hoo for us!!!
 
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rlg94086:
I’ve noticed that, whether the parish is considered “progressive/liberal” or “conservative” almost no one bows. .
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We genuflect!

(God Bless Fr. Ben)
 
I am the original poster of this question.

I am happy (very happy) to see those of you that have large numbers bow. As a neophyte in this faith, I have made great strides to find out what we do as Catholics and why. The why is very important to me.

I have been to Mass in Texas, South Carolina, Montreal and Italy. At each of these parishes the celebrants bowed (from the waist), but most of the congregations did not.

Great posts guys!

God Bless

ck
 
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katherine2:
Now, will the smarter people here educate me on this? Is it correct that in the rubrics, the “bow” we are called to do here is a bow of the head, ( a nod in some people’s secular parlance) while the term used for a bow from the waist is a “profound bow”? I think I heard that somewhere but don’t remember for sure.
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Yes, a profound bow is required

(GIRM 275b)
www.umcc.us/GIRM2003.pdf
 
I bow, but only my head. I know I am supposed to use a profound bow, but I would be the ONLY choir member to do so (we are right in front of the congregation), and even my pastor hardly even nods his head. :confused:

Maybe I’ll just do the profound bow, and if anyone questions me I’ll let them know it is the right thing to do.

'thann
 
I used to never bow (out of ignorance) until one Sunday after the homily, a priest told us we are to bow or genuflect(sp?).

And all along it was right there in the missile. I guess I was in a rut.
 
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