They should be refused too.But what about divorcees who remarry? Are they really “married”? Are we as vocal as to whether or not they should receive The Eucharist? Should fornicators (such a technical word) receive The Eucharist?
How many people do you know with 8 wives?Sure they are. They aren’t shutting their 8th wife up in the attic.
Don’t you just hate autocorrect sometimes?whether they are fortificating
That was the issue gay people had though. It was like everyone felt too uncomfortable knowing that someone they knew and loved was gay, and they would rather gay people not bring it up. That if they said they were gay, they are immediately assumed to be living a hedonistic lifestyle. The fact that people already get so worked up about the term ‘gay’ shows this, lol.I would like to see a society where gay people could embrace celibacy and either make this known if they wished, or keep it to themselves under the rubric of being a “confirmed bachelor/ette”, “not the marrying kind”, what have you, and not be asked or be speculated about.
I agree people should tend their own houses first, but I disagree with the idea that people freak out over the wrong sin. Look at Joe Biden (and others, iirc) being denied Communion for a very public support for abortion, which the Church teaches is wrong. The difference between homosexual relations and other mortally sinful acts is the very public nature of it. Unless someone shows up for Mass and announces that their sleeping with the person with them, who also isn’t their spouse, people won’t know the nature of his sins.And yet they do. But if you are the wrong kind of sinner then people freak out if you recieve. I think people should tend their own house.
You’re comparing their sexual orientation with actions (vices, to be specific). Being gay would simply mean an attraction, not what they like to ‘do’.It seems like it’s become peoples’ only identities. Example, I’ve never heard at random:
“Hi, I’m Jim and I’m an alcoholic.”
“Hi, I’m Jim and I’m sleeping with someone who isn’t my wife.”
“Hi, I’m Jim and I like pornography.”
Yet a good deal of research suggests those actions ( especially addictions) are largely genetically predisposed. Born that way, in other words. So the question is: at what point is something the way someone is vs an action?You’re comparing their sexual orientation with actions (vices, to be specific). Being gay would simply mean an attraction, not what they like to ‘do’.
That’s actually an interesting point there. Sounds like it refers back to the Church’s teaching on charity.While I don’t think it’s something to mention immediately, I do have a couple of gay friends who say stuff like this to be open about it. If they talk or act in a certain way, people would usually say ‘he seems gay, is she a lesbian?’ (this does happen a lot, unfortunately). So they feel like it’s better to just address it.
The part I bolded caught my eye. Why would it be wrong to assume someone is straight, given that 95-98% of the population is that way? It seems a bit prideful to me “how dare you assume I’m like the vast majority!? I want to be labelled differently!”While I don’t think it’s something to mention immediately, I do have a couple of gay friends who say stuff like this to be open about it. If they talk or act in a certain way, people would usually say ‘he seems gay, is she a lesbian?’ (this does happen a lot, unfortunately). So they feel like it’s better to just address it. Also sometimes they will come across conversations that immediately assume they’re straight,or even homophobic comments so I imagine they would rather let people know upfront before forming any relationship with them.
I do think that there is a preoccupation with identity politics that make people immediately identify themselves with whatever category they fall into, but i think we tend to misunderstand where they’re coming from. Sexual orientation does influence a lot in our day to day lives. You’re constantly aware of it when you walk down the street and see everything straight around you. Just like how lgbt content seems to stick out for us.
Who’s this “we” of which you speak?We often criticize homosexuals