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There’s no we. Some do and some don’t.
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frumacat
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Thank you for your kind words. You get it.
Although I would disagree, I personally am not that a strong a person. God bless.
Although I would disagree, I personally am not that a strong a person. God bless.
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DAGZ
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I am not divorcing and remarrying daily. Things happened and this is how it ended up. The thing about never marrying again denies forgiveness. Christ never said you can’t remarry he said that it is adultery. He never said that it is perpetual adultery either. I was divorced with a death wish, was stabbed 4 times and had the most peasful moment of my life bleeding out. I ended up remarrying the woman that took care of me for almost a year. That near death experance opened my eyes to what I currently believe and why I don’t have anything to do with Churches. I found in almost death what I was never able to find in church.
But what about a man that had sex with 50 different women and then is married only once. Compared to a remarried divorcee that has had sex with only two women in his life.
Look at these two verses.
“And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh” (KJV+ Mat 19:5)
“What? know ye not that he which is joined to a harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.” (KJV+ 1Cor 6:16)
On man had become one flesh (married) with 50 women and is celebrated by the church for having only one documented marriage.
The other man had become one flesh with only two women in his life and is condemned by those in the church for being a remarried divorcee.
This is hypocrisy doctrine that undocumented marriages don’t count. Just blow off fornication as being nothing. Also, if you are married in the court house slap an annulment on that get married and the church says it is one marriage. Leave the Catholic church and go to an evangelical church and you can be divorced and have another first marriage because the Catholic one didn’t count.
I am a remarried divorcee and I have been forgiven and case closed because I am never getting divorced or remarried again.
An active homosexual sins every time they are sexual activity. They need to repent and stop.
Christianity is not about never sinned it is about not continuing in sin. Any homosexual that stops being sexualy active can be a Christian. Anyone living for their worldly desires can’t be a Christian.
“Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.” (KJV+ Mat 16:24)
But what about a man that had sex with 50 different women and then is married only once. Compared to a remarried divorcee that has had sex with only two women in his life.
Look at these two verses.
“And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh” (KJV+ Mat 19:5)
“What? know ye not that he which is joined to a harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.” (KJV+ 1Cor 6:16)
On man had become one flesh (married) with 50 women and is celebrated by the church for having only one documented marriage.
The other man had become one flesh with only two women in his life and is condemned by those in the church for being a remarried divorcee.
This is hypocrisy doctrine that undocumented marriages don’t count. Just blow off fornication as being nothing. Also, if you are married in the court house slap an annulment on that get married and the church says it is one marriage. Leave the Catholic church and go to an evangelical church and you can be divorced and have another first marriage because the Catholic one didn’t count.
I am a remarried divorcee and I have been forgiven and case closed because I am never getting divorced or remarried again.
An active homosexual sins every time they are sexual activity. They need to repent and stop.
Christianity is not about never sinned it is about not continuing in sin. Any homosexual that stops being sexualy active can be a Christian. Anyone living for their worldly desires can’t be a Christian.
“Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.” (KJV+ Mat 16:24)
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They will be held accountable for their wrongdoings and someone who knows their past won’t honor them because of that.
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Just curious, but why would only the act of re-marriage be a sin? I would think any act that compromised the dignity of the prior (real) marriage would be sinful.
It’s fine if you don’t agree with the Church’s teaching, I just find it odd that you draw a distinction there.
It’s fine if you don’t agree with the Church’s teaching, I just find it odd that you draw a distinction there.
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PapyrusDouay
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For some context…
…The term was intentionally made ambiguous A couple decades ago. Your definition of gay is, and has always been the proper definition (“gay = sexual attraction to people of the same sex”).
But with the rise of the “ex-gay” movement, the early promoters ofconversion therapy began using “gay” to refer to behavior. Why? Conversion therapy doesn’t work, and there is no such thing as an “ex-gay” I.e you can’t ‘cure’ same sex attraction. So, by Essentially changing the definition of “gay”, they could now claim to be “ex-gay”. So they mean one thing, but the average Joe thinks they mean another. Deceptive, eh?
To be fair, conversion therapy and the ex-gay movement started as a Christian (Evangelical?) movement, which is why that definition is so prevalent here…it’s spread among Christians of all kinds, including Catholics. That being said, I find it useful to ask up front what definition someone is using, if they’re trying to talk about this stuff. Of course that’s easier in a one-on-one conversation than an Internet forum with thousands of visitors.
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A 1994 study in the United States, which looked at the number of sexual partners in a lifetime, found 20% of heterosexual men had one partner…
And your point? Look, the levels of promiscuity among male homosexuals is simply staggering, even when compared to the disgusting behavior of hetero men today. Promiscuity ruins lives, especially it ruins the lives of children. It is depressing to report but even the levels of promiscuity among lesbians is simply sickening: lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 life-time male sex partners
And your point? Look, the levels of promiscuity among male homosexuals is simply staggering, even when compared to the disgusting behavior of hetero men today. Promiscuity ruins lives, especially it ruins the lives of children. It is depressing to report but even the levels of promiscuity among lesbians is simply sickening: lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 life-time male sex partners
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Why is it that no one is asking the obvious question, which is, why did God proclaim homosexuality a sin? Seriously, not a single one of you can imagine an answer to that?
Have any of you read anything at all about what happened in the ancient world?
And why won’t anyone tackle the problem of 80% of abuse cases being tied to homosexuality???
Have any of you read anything at all about what happened in the ancient world?
And why won’t anyone tackle the problem of 80% of abuse cases being tied to homosexuality???
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1978 studyfound that 75 percent of white, gay malesclaimed to have had more than 100 life-time male sex partners: 15 percentclaimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percentclaimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than1,000 lifetime male sex partners.
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Maybe because most people understand that already.
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- Promiscuity
- 28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners : “Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308.” (Is Homosexuality Healthy?)
- 79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers : “The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309.” (Is Homosexuality Healthy?)
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Rau
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. Well that’s persuasive!
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Rau
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A counterexample to an anecdote? How is that on me to provide? Those making the claim that it’s Catholics taking “such and such” a position ought to first properly make a case or otherwise expect to have their claim discarded.
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Lea101
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I don’t get the relevance of this post and the one before, since I’m not persuading you about who believes in your definition, but rather the actual definition of the word.
Pretty disingenuous of you too, since the context was me saying that I believe and agree with you that many Catholics feel a certain way. And that I’ve included other religious groups but you cut that off. But hey, when you have nothing to say…
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