Are women really weaker than men?

[Lost_Wanderer]

Okay, why are we talking about labyrinths? I personally don’t care how this relates to the topic at hand nor do I see any spirituality and the worst you can say about them is that they’re not a good place to be in with a monster (or several of them).

LOL, I have never been accused of not doing research or investigation.

I beg to differ. Anyone else here care to vouch with me?

 

[Portrait]

They weren’t saying that radical feminism isn’t dangerous, or that the vatican was wrong to reprimand that specific group. They were pointing out the fact that whenever something is perceived as bad about our culture it is blamed solely on “those radical feminists”. Nothing is as clear cut as that. There are many, many causes for the problems in society today, and they are not only caused by radical feminism. Blaming everything on them can become way to avoid investigating the real source of problems.

Dear thewanderer,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Hope all is well.

Those who are quite rightly opposed to the ideology of secular radical femenism, are fully aware that it is far from being the sole cause of all our present troubles, but it would be foolishly credulous of us to think that it was not a very potent cause. The general decay in religion (especially in its classic form of ‘the fear of God’); the destructive influence of theological liberalism on Catholic faith and morals; the spread of a rebellious youth culture, all have all had a huge negative impact, but radical femenism has incontrovertibly contributed a very large share to the general malaise.

The real source of all our troubles is mankind’s rebellion against its Creator, the various ‘problems’ merely being the presenting symptoms of this, dear sister. After all, the ultimate rule for the life that is pleasing to God is ‘Not my will, but Thine’. Self-pleasing, one of the supreme motivations of disordered humanity, is fatal in the long run for man’s happiness and well-being. Femenism is simply rebelling against the divine providential order of things and questioning the Creator’s will and wisdom by refusing to accept gender differences as God-given. Its fundamental error is in thinking that these differences are accidental (or societal) and not providential. They are allegedlly the result of blind, purposeless forces of nature acting by ‘Chance and Necessity’ as Darwin postulated, certainly nothing to do with the divine providence. Thus, so it is argued, men are free to seek to set them aside by legislation, education and even social engineering, if necessary, as they are not sacrosanct.

Unfortunatley, dear sister, many contemporary Catholics have a tendency to miminize the potent and negative impact of radical femenism, which can often lead others to believe that they might accept and sympathise with its greviances against a society supposedly biased against women.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax

 

[Portrait]

I am old enough to see what radical feminism has done to the Catholic Church. Language in the Liturgy has been gender neutralized. New age practices have been introduced at every level. I have seen nuns practicing and teaching reiki. I have seen retreat centers doing seminars on enneagram, mandalas, and training reiki masters. I have seen the introduction of eco-spirituality and goddess worship and/or mother earth worship. I have seen Catholic priests teaching seminarians to say the “Our Father” like this:

“Our Father, mother, who art in heaven…”

I have seen “Catholic” nuns in support of Planned Parenthood and abortion and female ordination. This has been going on for many decades…and the Vatican has seen much, much more. That is why they have no choice but to crack down on the offenders. You can live in your little bubble and proclaim that people sound “paranoid”…but something needs to be done…and I applaud the Vatican for taking action.

Dear Mickey,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Hope all is well. Jolly good contribution above, old chap, my sentiments entirely.

It is most deplorable and a scandal that so many nuns are teaching Hindu philosophies at the retreat centres, such as labyrinth walking, reiki an so called eco-spirituality. Moreover, as you quite correctly say, dear friend, many of these nuns shamelessly support the Planned Parenthood organization, abortion and woman’s ordination. It is good that the Vatican is reining-in these misguided nuns at long last, as they are seriously tarnishing the reputation of Holy Mother Church and causing our most holy religion to be evil spoken of.

Men should realize that this is the dreadful path that the destructive forces of secular radical femenism, with its rebellion against the divine natural order of things, ultimately leads. Alas, I fear that many Catholics have become imbued with the spirit of the age and are so conformed to this world that those who warn of the dangerous ideology of radical feminism, probably do sound a little paranoid. At least the Vatican is aware of the problems and that is a reason to be cheerful, dear friend.

God bless and thankyou for your excellent (name removed by moderator)ut.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax

 

[poorsinner7]

The book didn’t say just physical strength, but also other types of strength, such as spiritual, emotional, social, etc. I agree that if we’re talking exclusively about physical strength, it’s not much of an argument in most cases.

Place the book under fiction, because that’s nonsense. Women may have been treated weaker but that doesn’t hold true in my book. I wonder why so many men fail to volunteer at mass when so many women out number men 9 to 1 in service. That makes men look like the weaker sex. But I do believe there were, at one time, many feminists within the ranks of the VC II dissent movement that men were all but completely eliminated from the picture. I believe this is why we have a shortage of religious and priests. If women decided that religious life wasn’t good enough and then declines, so does the male orders, and then the priesthood. I believe I read somewhere this even somewhere. Has more men and particularly women return to religious monasteries, so too will the priesthood increase and the number of faithful Catholics increase (thus less birth control and less abortion among Catholics). I may be in fantasy world, but I do have hope.

 

[Mickey]

According to some rabbinic myths…

Sorry. I don’t follow rabbinic myths.

 

[Mickey]

I would refrain from telling other posters what they think.

Huh?

Most posters, however, are capable of discerning the complexity of situations instead of inventing bogeymen and are certainly capable of recognizing the difference between systemic and localized issues.

Bogeymen are not being created…I wish that were true. Radical feminism is a real threat…and I am glad that the Vatican recognizes that.

 

[Mickey]

Those who are quite rightly opposed to the ideology of secular radical femenism, are fully aware that it is far from being the sole cause of all our present troubles, but it would be foolishly credulous of us to think that it was not a very potent cause. The general decay in religion (especially in its classic form of ‘the fear of God’); the destructive influence of theological liberalism on Catholic faith and morals; the spread of a rebellious youth culture, all have all had a huge negative impact, but radical femenism has incontrovertibly contributed a very large share to the general malaise.Thank you for expressing it better than I ever could.

The real source of all our troubles is mankind’s rebellion against its Creator, the various ‘problems’ merely being the presenting symptoms of this, dear sister. After all, the ultimate rule for the life that is pleasing to God is ‘Not my will, but Thine’. Self-pleasing, one of the supreme motivations of disordered humanity, is fatal in the long run for man’s happiness and well-being. Femenism is simply rebelling against the divine providential order of things and questioning the Creator’s will and wisdom by refusing to accept gender differences as God-given. Its fundamental error is in thinking that these differences are accidental (or societal) and not providential. They are allegedlly the result of blind, purposeless forces of nature acting by ‘Chance and Necessity’ as Darwin postulated, certainly nothing to do with the divine providence. Thus, so it is argued, men are free to seek to set them aside by legislation, education and even social engineering, if necessary, as they are not sacrosanct.

Unfortunatley, dear sister, many contemporary Catholics have a tendency to miminize the potent and negative impact of radical femenism, which can often lead others to believe that they might accept and sympathise with its greviances against a society supposedly biased against women.

Thank you for expressing it better than I ever could.

 

[Mickey]

Dear Mickey,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Hope all is well. Jolly good contribution above, old chap, my sentiments entirely.

It is most deplorable and a scandal that so many nuns are teaching Hindu philosophies at the retreat centres, such as labyrinth walking, reiki an so called eco-spirituality. Moreover, as you quite correctly say, dear friend, many of these nuns shamelessly support the Planned Parenthood organization, abortion and woman’s ordination. It is good that the Vatican is reining-in these misguided nuns at long last, as they are seriously tarnishing the reputation of Holy Mother Church and causing our most holy religion to be evil spoken of.

Men should realize that this is the dreadful path that the destructive forces of secular radical femenism, with its rebellion against the divine natural order of things, ultimately leads. Alas, I fear that many Catholics have become imbued with the spirit of the age and are so conformed to this world that those who warn of the dangerous ideology of radical feminism, probably do sound a little paranoid. At least the Vatican is aware of the problems and that is a reason to be cheerful, dear friend.

Amen my brother in Christ. I use to write letters to various clergy (I even wrote to the Vatican one time) to document some of these abuses propigated by the secular radical feminist influence. I only received a response one time (a very understanding letter from Fr Mitch Pacwa). I am delighted to see that the Vatican has addressed the issue.

 

[Portrait]

Amen my brother in Christ. I use to write letters to various clergy (I even wrote to the Vatican one time) to document some of these abuses propigated by the secular radical feminist influence. I only received a response one time (a very understanding letter from Fr Mitch Pacwa). I am delighted to see that the Vatican has addressed the issue.

Dear Mickey,

Cordial greetings.

Father Mitch Pacwa, yes I believe he hosts a programme on the EWTN TV station. He is a Jesuit and I have always found his writings extremely orthodox and very lucid, so I can well imagine that you would have received a sympathetic response respecting the godless influence of radical femenism. Irrespective of what some might say, it is indeed a very real and present danger in our midst and its impact should never be down played, least of all by professing Catholics who ought to be better informed regarding such issues.

Keep on keeping on with your excellent contributions to the thread, my dear friend.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax

 

[Crescentinus]

Under the feminist world order, women are to gain every position of dominance while men are infantilized. Should I show the Time Magazine cover which shows this?

 

[L_piperatus]

Under the feminist world order, women are to gain every position of dominance while men are infantilized.

For some time, I mistakenly assumed that feminists only wanted to be free of male dominance, have the same opportunities as males, and enjoy the freedom to do their own thing. But then, the feminists turn around and try to force me to pay for their intrauterine devices, abortions, and tubal ligations?

I mean, imagine a new generation of hippies and junkies that would not only want to legalize marijuana, heroin, and LSD, but also expect the taxpayers to provide their drugs for free to them! Wouldn’t we all feel like that would be totally ridiculous? The feminists really managed to set a new record for chutzpah, expecting other people to foot the bill for their sexual immorality!

 

[Mickey]

Father Mitch Pacwa, yes I believe he hosts a programme on the EWTN TV station. He is a Jesuit and I have always found his writings extremely orthodox and very lucid, so I can well imagine that you would have received a sympathetic response respecting the godless influence of radical femenism.

Yes. He is a good priest. He has battled the demonic influences of radical feminism and new age practices for many years. I believe he is also a Maronite.

 

[Crescentinus]

For some time, I mistakenly assumed that feminists only wanted to be free of male dominance, have the same opportunities as males, and enjoy the freedom to do their own thing. But then, the feminists turn around and try to force me to pay for their intrauterine devices, abortions, and tubal ligations?

I mean, imagine a new generation of hippies and junkies that would not only want to legalize marijuana, heroin, and LSD, but also expect the taxpayers to provide their drugs for free to them! Wouldn’t we all feel like that would be totally ridiculous? The feminists really managed to set a new record for chutzpah, expecting other people to foot the bill for their sexual immorality!

I’ve always wondered what is the Catholic Church’s position on men’s rights.

Feminists and homosexualists both want to shove their immoralities down everyone’s throats by any and all means necessary. Personally, I’m in the mood to overthrow both parties. Why? They are too oppressive.

 

[JacarandaPurple]

For some time, I mistakenly assumed that feminists only wanted to be free of male dominance, have the same opportunities as males, and enjoy the freedom to do their own thing. But then, the feminists turn around and try to force me to pay for their intrauterine devices, abortions, and tubal ligations?

I mean, imagine a new generation of hippies and junkies that would not only want to legalize marijuana, heroin, and LSD, but also expect the taxpayers to provide their drugs for free to them! Wouldn’t we all feel like that would be totally ridiculous? The feminists really managed to set a new record for chutzpah, expecting other people to foot the bill for their sexual immorality!

Ah, but even the most rudimentary perusal of the origins of the Second Wave shows Socialist and Communist Party connections all over the place. Betty Freidan herself was an avowed Socialist and an activist one at that. That movement was always intended to subvert American society and turn us into a country where the State controls all, and pays for everything through confiscatory taxes. It also must break down the family, because that is an alternative outlet for loyalty and social investment beside the State. The crud you see today is the beginnings of the realization of their mission.

Same with environmentalists and just Leftists in general, as well.

 

[The_Bucket]

I can military press my wife but she cannot do the same to me. So yes.

 

[Walking_Home]

JUBILEE OF THE ARMED FORCES AND THE POLICE

HOMILY OF JOHN PAUL II

Sunday, 19 November 2000

1. Who better than you, dear soldiers and members of the police, young men and women, can testify to the violence and to the disruptive forces of evil present in the world? You fight against them every day: indeed, you are called to defend the weak, to protect the honest, to foster the peaceful coexistence of peoples. The role of the sentinel, who scans the horizon to avert danger and promote justice and peace everywhere, befits each of you.

I greet you all with deep affection, dear brothers and sisters, who have come to Rome from many parts of the world to celebrate your special Jubilee. You are the representatives of the armies who have faced one another down through history. Today you are meeting at the tomb of the Apostle Peter to celebrate Christ “our peace, who has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility” (Eph 2: 14). You have come to offer to him, mysteriously and really present in the Eucharist, your resolutions and your daily commitment as peacemakers.

To each of you I express my deepest appreciation of your dedication and generous commitment. I first of all extend my greeting with fraternal esteem to Archbishop José Manuel Estepa Llaurens, who has expressed your common sentiments. My greeting is extended to the dear Archbishops and Military Ordinaries, whom I congratulate for the dedication with which they provide pastoral care for you. With them, I greet the military chaplains, who generously share in the ideals and efforts of your arduous daily activity. My respectful thoughts also turn to the officers of the armed forces, to those in command of the police forces and of the various security agencies, as well as to the civil authorities who have wished to share in the joy and grace of this solemn Jubilee celebration.

1. Your daily experience brings you face to face with difficult and sometimes dramatic situations, which jeopardize human security. However the Gospel comforts us, presenting the victorious figure of Christ, the judge of history. With his presence, he brightens the darkness and even man’s despair, and offers those who trust in him the comforting certainty of his constant assistance. …

But where did they find the strength necessary to do their duty to the full, other than in total adherence to the professed ideals? Many of them believed in Christ, and his words illumined their existence and gave an exemplary value to their sacrifice. They made the Gospel their code of conduct. May the example of your colleagues, who in faithfully doing their duty reached the heights of heroism and, perhaps, of holiness, be an example to you.

Like them, you also look to Christ who also calls you “to the fullness of Christian life and to the perfection of charity”. He calls you to be holy. And to be able to achieve your vocation, according to the Apostle Paul’s well-known expression, “Take the whole armour of God… Stand therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the equipment of the gospel of peace above all taking the shield of faith … take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God” (Eph 6: 13-17). Above all, “pray at all times” (Eph 6: 18).

May Mary, the Virgo Fidelis, support and help you in your difficult activity. May your hearts never be troubled: rather, be ready, watchful and firmly anchored to the promise of Jesus, who in today’s Gospel has assured us of his help and protection: “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away” (Mk 13: 31).

In invoking Christ, may you continue to carry out your duty generously. Countless people look to you and trust in you in the hope of being able to enjoy a life of serenity, order and peace.

vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/homilies/documents/hf_jp-ii_hom_20001119_jubilarmforces_en.html

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

I’ve always wondered what is the Catholic Church’s position on men’s rights.

How often have men been systematically disenfranchised by women? In how many regions were men denied any influence in politics by women? Denied the right to vote by women? Denied the right to own property by women? Etc., etc., etc. I swear some of you act like everything has been peachy-keen for women in the past two millenia.

 

[EasterJoy]

For some time, I mistakenly assumed that feminists only wanted to be free of male dominance, have the same opportunities as males, and enjoy the freedom to do their own thing. But then, the feminists turn around and try to force me to pay for their intrauterine devices, abortions, and tubal ligations?

I mean, imagine a new generation of hippies and junkies that would not only want to legalize marijuana, heroin, and LSD, but also expect the taxpayers to provide their drugs for free to them! Wouldn’t we all feel like that would be totally ridiculous? The feminists really managed to set a new record for chutzpah, expecting other people to foot the bill for their sexual immorality!

Neither Republicans nor Democrats nor feminists nor any other group think as one. There are people, people who in former times would be called feminist, who only want to do away with artificial injustices such as unequal pay for the same job and unequal opportunities for advancement in spite of the same contribution and abilities.

Heaven help those who only want fairness to be looked after and the room to make just accomodations that recognize the real differences between people, though, because that’s a middle ground that is hard to stand on these days. Go for that and only that, and you get vilified from both directions.

 

[Mickey]

How often have men been systematically disenfranchised by women? In how many regions were men denied any influence in politics by women? Denied the right to vote by women? Denied the right to own property by women? Etc., etc., etc. I swear some of you act like everything has been peachy-keen for women in the past two millenia.

Past iniquities involving voting and property rights for women…has nothing to do with radical feminism and its dismantling of the Church.

 

[thewanderer]

Neither Republicans nor Democrats nor feminists nor any other group think as one. There are people, people who in former times would be called feminist, who only want to do away with artificial injustices such as unequal pay for the same job and unequal opportunities for advancement in spite of the same contribution and abilities.

Heaven help those who only want fairness to be looked after and the room to make just accomodations that recognize the real differences between people, though, because that’s a middle ground that is hard to stand on these days. Go for that and only that, and you get vilified from both directions.

Excellent post!