Are You Afraid of Mary Coredemtrix?

[godisgood77]

I will give a hearty amen to everything that is in bold.

Fully agree as well. Especially in that it is not necessary to define this as a dogma and that we have plenty of imperatives to define, teach and explain without this.

I like how Pope Francis tells us to think about trying to know everything…

“And when we want to be the masters of the projects of God, of the future, of things, to know everything, to have everything in hand… the Pharisees asked Jesus, ‘When will the Kingdom of God come?’ Curious! They wanted to know the date, the day… The spirit of curiosity distances us from the Spirit of wisdom because all that interests us is the details, the news, the little stories of the day. Oh, how will this come about? It is the how: it is the spirit of the how! And the spirit of curiosity is not a good spirit. It is the spirit of dispersion, of distancing oneself from God, the spirit of talking too much. And Jesus also tells us something interesting: this spirit of curiosity, which is worldly, leads us to confusion.”

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/11/14/pope%3A_the_spirit_of_curiosity_distances_one_from_god/en1-746498

To me this is saying that it necessary to leave room for faith which does not require absolute precision or definitions to the Nth degree.

God Bless,
Dan

 

[rfournier103]

I will give a hearty amen to everything that is in bold.

Thank you for your support. There’s a phrase that I love to use, and this is it: "let’s not make this any more complicated than it has to be."

 

[godisgood77]

Thank you for your support. There’s a phrase that I love to use, and this is it: "let’s not make this any more complicated than it has to be."

everything except the Patriots logo of course…

 

[david_patrick]

hi, perhaps-in any case of mediation works itself into a practice-a belief to practice…(how i spend my time); pride is at work in me-as i live in the world that stresses me-sometimes i cannot pray as i should…Mary sees me from afar…i approach Her/heaven…my prayers sometimes are not on task…just a bit weak…unconfidant…so i explain to myself…there must be this merciful point to reach…Mary is a help to sinners…like a big pyramid salt shaker…a description and simile of how spiritual needs are met…(practice here explained)…when all the fears are released and material things I thought i needed) are re-prioritized, when an inverted salt shaker shows the process of holiness…shakes out /filtering everthing=what is left are values, morals, things redeemed that i never knew could be redeemed…as if to say…a value…given an example, only as a word-VALUE-when written as a word on a piece of paper…has only the weight of the paper; values cannot be weighted nor measured…so to the prayers of the Mother of God…had taken prideful requests of prayer, from me; re-done those for the moment in time…by the Holy Spirit, in mercy of God; in practice, all true needs are met…as She whispers to Jesus Christ…of my sins and mercy desired…a prep only…for me to later meet the King and step with courage nearest heaven-the perfection of a discernment of spirits, when otherwise, i would be discouraged…while the devil hates this (a devil defined as one that ‘pursues.’)…Mary is as though a women dressed in the sun…and gives a safe refuge for my soul, while the devil is angry…Fully in God’s mercy, my needs are met. so to a mental image of a pyramid might show Mary recognized on top,…really is a humble seat; She is subordinated as a great servant (and a very dependable fisher’s of men); for me-the end is peace…that position of Mary is earned to be.only a great help to christians…to help me pray-in practice, when i cannot pray…(does this description resemble a process of holiness and mediation?)thanks patrick

 

[po18guy]

Let’s look at his through Mary’s eyes. Would she not hate anything that takes our eyes and our attention off of her Son? Although Mary says precious little in scripture, the content of what she says is significant. There is a parallel in principle between Mary’s humbling of herself so as to exalt her Son and John the Baptist’s “He must increase, I must decrease.”

And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; let it be unto me according to thy word. And with that the angel left her.

And Mary said, My soul magnifies the Lord; 47 my spirit has found joy in God, who is my Saviour, 48 because he has looked graciously upon the lowliness of his handmaid.

 

[NeedsMercy]

Let’s look at his through Mary’s eyes. Would she not hate anything that takes our eyes and our attention off of her Son? Although Mary says precious little in scripture, the content of what she says is significant. There is a parallel in principle between Mary’s humbling of herself so as to exalt her Son and John the Baptist’s “He must increase, I must decrease.”

Agree, but what about…

For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed;
Because He who is mighty has done great things for me,
and holy is His name;

Mary knew exactly how big a role she was going to be playing in our redemption, but she knows that it was only by the grace of God that this would occur. No false humility but acceptance and submission to the Divine Will. (BTW, I love the Magnificat! )

 

[po18guy]

Agree, but what about…Mary knew exactly how big a role she was going to be playing in our redemption, but she knows that it was only by the grace of God that this would occur. No false humility but acceptance and submission to the Divine Will. (BTW, I love the Magnificat! )

Even in this, she was praising and magnifying God. To conceal or deny that conceiving Christ is a “great thing” would be contrary to her very nature.

 

[fred_conty]

A Simple Explanation of a Beautiful Title of Mary

An Article by Dr. Mark Miravalle

What is your first response when you hear someone refer to the Mother of Jesus Christ as the “Coredemptrix”? Extreme? Excessive pietism, even if well-intended? Heresy? After all, only Jesus is the Redeemer. If not directly heresy, then extremely dangerous? At least anti-ecumenical?

Read more… marymediatrix.com/marian-doctrine/item/13-are-you-afraid-of-mary-coredemptrix.html

-Tim-

St. Paul said “I make up in my body the sufferings that are lacking to Christ.”

Now it sounds as tho St. Paul is saying that he too is a co-redeemer. Because we know that it was thru Jesus’ sufferings that we were redeemed.

I believe it was St. Paul’s great faith in the understanding of his being one with Jesus thru the holiness of grace, and being attached to the body of Jesus on earth, that is, the mystical body composed of all the saints on earth who are the branches on Christ the vine.

And so “pick up your cross and follow me” said by Jesus means a good deal more than just the willingness to suffer, but to suffer with him as co-redeemers, making “up in my body the sufferings that are lacking to christ.” To pay for other’s sins and obtain for them supernatural graces for their salvation thru our merit because we are now one with Jesus and sons of the Father.

It was Christ’s own design that it should be this way with us, and certainly then with his own mother Mary.