Are you pro-life or Republican first?

[BamaRider]

The LC Man said Repubs are:

Pro-war
Pro-death penalty
Pro-deportation
Anti-tax
Anti-regulation of business
Anti-publicly provided services
Anti-union

Sign me up!!

I’d say that is pretty much correct! Just would like to add, pro war doesn’t mean we think war is a good thing it is - only when we have to defend ouselves.

I’m not pro death penalty, I use to be, but no longer. But that is not a deal breaker for me.

But you forgot one!!

PRO LIFE

 

[vern_humphrey]

I am not pro-war. I am a professional soldier (and have the bullet holes to prove it) and can claim to **understand **war better than those who have never seen the elephant. And I still have a lot of contacts in service.

I am not pro-death penalty, although I have had a little experience working with the Bureau of Prisons, and understand the need for the death penalty in the case of those who kill police, witnesses, prosecutors, Corrections Officers and so on.

I am for deporting those who are here in violation of the law.

I am for reducing taxes, and allowing people to keep more of what they earn. I am also for educating people on the need for savintgs and investment.

I believe regulation of business should be held to the minimum needed to protect the public. For every good regulation, I can show you a bad one.

I don’t even know what “anti-publicly provided services” is.

I lived through one major strike – the Detroit Newspaper Strike, and did not unions to be the wonderful things some say they are.

 

[Della]

I don’t even know what “anti-publicly provided services” is.

I think he’s referring to “universal health care.”

 

[LCMS_No_More]

I think he’s referring to “universal health care.”

Actually, that’s one aspect of public services. I mean any and all services provided by a government agency, from transit to libraries to schools to air traffic control. Republicans tend to favor privatizing all these kinds of services.

 

[LCMS_No_More]

I’m saying that’s what you believe – regardless of the reality.

And all of them – even reducing taxes – is eeeeeevile?

Nice try at evasion. You didn’t answer the question.

 

[BamaRider]

Nice try at evasion. You didn’t answer the question.

Check post #22. Seemed pretty authorative to me.

 

[rpp]

This poll was assembled with what can only be described as breathtaking sloppiness. It would have been better if the OP, who has earned an interesting reputation here, had at least defined the choices and all the abbreviations in the opening post.

But the choices presented did not seem to be very honest. Neither choice represents the stance of either of the two major political parties in the USA nor do they represent any of the leading presidential candidates positions.

I am not sure what the motive of the poll was. But somehow I do not think good Christian charity was a factor in it.

By the way. I did not vote.

 

[rpp]

Nice try at evasion. You didn’t answer the question.

There was no evasion at all. He was very clear. He asserted that your statement was not accurate, but rather it is what you feel to be true.

Evasion is what you have been doing on this thread.

 

[homewardbound]

I could never claim to be a Christian and then turn around a support the murder of millions of children nor support anyone else who supports it. Being Christian and pro-abortion is not possible.

 

[pnewton]

I must be really dumb because I don’t understand the poll. I don’t see anything where it says being antiabortion vs Republican.

It doesn’t. This poll has nothing to do with the topic. I find it deliberatetly misleading. An agenda-driven poll if I ever saw one. To answer the intitial question, I am adamently anti-abortion first and foremost.

 

[iamrefreshed]

Hold on there.

Are you saying that Republicans aren’t:

Pro-war
Pro-death penalty
Pro-deportation
Anti-tax
Anti-regulation of business
Anti-publicly provided services
Anti-union

Once you remove the “pro-life” façade, this is what I see left. Correct that list if I’m wrong. If I am wrong, I’d love to see

Seems to me that you bare the one trying to pigeon-hole everyone with YOUR perception of pro-this and pro-that.

Count me as pro-God.

 

[Texas_Roofer]

Hold on there.

Are you saying that Republicans aren’t:

Pro-war
Pro-death penalty
Pro-deportation
Anti-tax
Anti-regulation of business
Anti-publicly provided services
Anti-union

Once you remove the “pro-life” façade, this is what I see left. Correct that list if I’m wrong. If I am wrong, I’d love to see

I’ll say that

In 1980 a former Democrate became a Republican President his belief and actions were:
Pro-war
Pro-death penalty
Amensty for illegal aliens
Anti-tax
Anti-regulation of business
Anti-publicly provided services
Anti-union

Today’s Republican President is:
Pro-war
Pro-death penalty
Publicly for deportation privately for exploit illegals
Pro tax in fact he has already spent the taxes to be collected
Pro-regulation of all business except it really is not that light he mixes all businesses with all government
Blends all public and private services
Does not know what a union is

If you do not believe it try to operate a business today.
All airlines were driven to bankruptcy then allowed to return if dependent on Big Government
All gas and oil were driven to bankruptcy through EPA and asbestos regulation then allowed to return if dependent on Big Government
All of New Orleans was driven to bankruptcy through natural disaster then allowed to free spend if dependent on Big Government

Contrast that with the Democrats if you can, I can not tell any difference

 

[mapleoak]

I strongly believe that Republicanism is an ideology based on the notions that a tax is the worst possible evil in the universe and that business can do no wrong.

This is not only a totally unfounded statement, but an unsupportable one as well.

 

[rpp]

Better poll here.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=215813

Okay, I admit to tooting my own horn.

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[vern_humphrey]

I think he’s referring to “universal health care.”

And if you disagree with “universal health care” you’re a heretic, public enemy and a real poopie-head.

 

[vern_humphrey]

Seems to me that you are the one trying to pigeon-hole everyone with YOUR perception of pro-this and pro-that.

You should have a great future at the National Security Agency, 'cause you broke his code.

 

[LCMS_No_More]

The LC Man said Repubs are:

Sign me up!!

I’d say that is pretty much correct! Just would like to add, pro war doesn’t mean we think war is a good thing it is - only when we have to defend ouselves.

I’m not pro death penalty, I use to be, but no longer. But that is not a deal breaker for me.

But you forgot one!!

PRO LIFE

You miss the premise of the thread.

Both parties switch planks on the issues referred to here as the 5 non-negotiables. The Democratic Party become anti-abortion, anti research on stem-cells from unborn children, anti-gay “marriage,” anti-human cloning and anti-euthanasia and the Republican Party becomes pro-choice-on-abortion, pro research on stem cells from unborn children, pro-gay “marriage,” pro human cloning and pro-euthanasia. All other items remain the same.

Are you so beholdened to the Republican ideology that you would remain loyal to the Republican party or would you switch. Vote for the first one if you would switch and vote for the second one if you would remain Republican.

 

[LCMS_No_More]

This poll was assembled with what can only be described as breathtaking sloppiness. It would have been better if the OP, who has earned an interesting reputation here, had at least defined the choices and all the abbreviations in the opening post.

Gee…thanks…I think.

You try to create complete poll questions with only 127 characters.

But the choices presented did not seem to be very honest. Neither choice represents the stance of either of the two major political parties in the USA nor do they represent any of the leading presidential candidates positions.

Of course not because the life issues are switched. Is it or is it not true that, after removing the Big 5 issues, the Repbulican party is:

Pro-death penalty
Pro-war
Pro-deportation
Anti-tax
Anti-regulation of business
Anti-publicly provided services
Anti-union

Is it or is it not true that, after removing the Big 5 issues, the Democratic Party is

Anti-death penalty
Anti-war
Pro Immigration Reform (including earned legalization)
Pro progressive tax
Pro regulation of business
Pro publicly provided services
Pro labor

This poll is based on reversing compliance on the Big 5 and seeing what would happen.

I am not sure what the motive of the poll was. But somehow I do not think good Christian charity was a factor in it.

By the way. I did not vote.

The motive is to see whether or not people are pro-life or Republican first. It’s quite simple. I believe that some people are so loyal to the Party that they’ll vote for it even if it didn’t have a pro-life plank. If I’m wrong, I’ve yet to see proof.

 

[LCMS_No_More]

There was no evasion at all. He was very clear. He asserted that your statement was not accurate, but rather it is what you feel to be true.

I asked him to correct me if I’m wrong. He refused to do so.

Evasion is what you have been doing on this thread.

Elucidate.

 

[mapleoak]

Of course not because the life issues are switched. Is it or is it not true that, after removing the Big 5 issues, the Repbulican party is:

Pro-death penalty

Pro-death penalty can mean a whole gammit of different things.

Pro-war

Same here.

Pro-deportation

Same here.

Anti-tax

and here.

Anti-regulation of business

here as well.

Anti-publicly provided services

:yawn:

Anti-union