Are You Ready for a U.S. President ('08) with Muslim Roots? Who Supports Infanticide?

[estesbob]

If he’s eloquent he sure didn’t show it during the 2004 election. He came accross as an abrasive, arrogant, moralizer. I was quite happy to see the back of him when he and his boxspring (about the only furniture he took there) slunk on out of his spot in Calumet City.

Agreed. I was very disapointed in his campaign and would have been glad to see him defeated EXCEPT for the fact millions of children are dying because of the policies of the man that beat him.

 

[estesbob]

What this article points to is what I have been saying for months. Barack is the nominee if he chooses to run. Insiders on the Republican Party are very concerned about facing him in '08. They would much prefer Hillary. The typical right wing playbook would have to be modified slightly against Barack. The Republicans fear him for this reason. I believe Barack will be very difficult to defeat. He is very polished and will appeal to those in the middle.
BTW, the Republicans may not even have Pro-life nominee. Rudy G.

I tink in 2008 it could be very well be Macain-Guliani Vs Clinton Obama. I dont know if I could vote for either ticket in such a matchup.

 

[a_cermak]

I was just talking about this. Can you imagine a Clinton/Obama ticket? It would be the first ever woman as presidential candidate for a major party. I’ve always hoped to see a woman president some day and this step whether she won or lost would be a step in the right direction. It’s been 20 years since Geraldine ran and got through the whole what’s she wearing and how’s her hair bit.

Obama is not Moslem by the way. His father was. He is United Church of Christ, a popular Church up this way. I believe he would be the first African-American heritage person to be on a major party presidential ticket as well. He was only the 2nd African-American to represent IL in the U.S. Senate (the first was Carole Mosley Braun). In fact, I’ve heard he’s only the 3rd in the U.S. Senate as a whole.

 

[estesbob]

I was just talking about this. Can you imagine a Clinton/Obama ticket? It would be the first ever woman as presidential candidate for a major party. I’ve always hoped to see a woman president some day and this step whether she won or lost would be a step in the right direction. It’s been 20 years since Geraldine ran and got through the whole what’s she wearing and how’s her hair bit.

Obama is not Moslem by the way. His father was. He is United Church of Christ, a popular Church up this way. I believe he would be the first African-American heritage person to be on a major party presidential ticket as well. He was only the 2nd African-American to represent IL in the U.S. Senate (the first was Carole Mosley Braun). In fact, I’ve heard he’s only the 3rd in the U.S. Senate as a whole.

Poll came out today showing a McCain -Guliani ticket crushing a Clinton-Obama ticket

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[sirduckjr]

Poll came out today showing a McCain -Guliani ticket crushing a Clinton-Obama ticket

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Inside Baseball Talk.

Rudy G. will not be McCains V.P., way to much ego. He wants the top job. McCain is going to have a difficult time getting the support of many with substantial power in the Republican Party who consider him too much of a maverick.

Ironically, Senator Allen was in very much the same position Bush held within the Party powerful back in '98 but has blown much of that with his poor showing in Virgina this year. The Republicans are wide open. BTW, the only Republican I would support would be Brownback. He has a rock solid prolife record.

Hillary and Bill would love to have Barack as her V.P., but many within the Democratic Party are telling him to run against her. From my perspective, Barack is the much more popular within the Democratic Party and would beat her. Hillary does have a major advantage with money and infrastructure. Little whispers are coming out from Clinton people saying she might not run. That she might look to expand her role in the Senate. Maybe they are wanting people to beg her to run, or maybe she just doesn’t think she can beat Barack if he runs. I don’t know. But my bet is that if Barack runs, she does not. If he doesn’t, then she will. Either way, I don’t see him on the ticket with her.

 

[Richardols]

Poll came out today showing a McCain -Guliani ticket crushing a Clinton-Obama ticket

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Neither ticket will come to pass. McCain is too old, Giuliani too sick. Clinton, though I’d love her as president, has too many negatives in the minds of most, and Obama is too green.

 

[estesbob]

Neither ticket will come to pass. McCain is too old, Giuliani too sick. Clinton, though I’d love her as president, has too many negatives in the minds of most, and Obama is too green.

How do you reconcile your desire for Hillary to be Presdident with your recent statmentsa that you will not support pro-aboprtion canidates? And my friend Hillary is about as pro-abortion as they come.

 

[Bella3502]

How do you reconcile your desire for Hillary to be Presdident with your recent statmentsa that you will not support pro-aboprtion canidates? And my friend Hillary is about as pro-abortion as they come.

I would vote for Hillary too. She is about as pro-abortion as Bush or any other “PLINO” Republican.

 

[estesbob]

I would vote for Hillary too. She is about as pro-abortion as Bush or any other “PLINO” Republican.

Bush has repeatedly and publicy declared abotion is wrong. hillary believes that the taxpayers should fund abortions up unitl the moment the child’s head fully exits the womb. Both have worked hard to implement their beleifs.

Hillary is blocking the Parental Notification law-Bush wants to sign it. Hillary opposed Bush’s reimplementation of the mexico City protocol. Hillary opposed Bushs ban on giving US funds to organizations that promote or perform abortions. Hillary opposed the Violence aganst the unborn act-Bush promoted it and signed it, Hillary opposed the partial Birth Abortion law, Bush promoted it and signed,it. Hillary opposed absitinence funding-Bush put it in his budget and to date has signed bills allocating over 50 millon to it. . Hillary opposed Bush’s appointment of Pro-life Justices Roberts and Alito. Hillary helped block the Bush appointment of 6 other Pro-Life Judges to federal Courts. Hillary has voted against EVERY pro-life apointment to the judiciary Bush has made.

 

[Bella3502]

Bush has repeatedly and publicy declared abotion is wrong. No he has not… he says what he “thinks” Republicans want him to say. He is a PLINO puppet.

hillary believes that the taxpayers should fund abortions up unitl the moment the child’s head fully exits the womb. **NO woman ever wants that. Can you show me when and where she said that? **

Both have worked hard to implement their beleifs.** Bush is not working hard at anything. Repeatedly and publicy declaring abortion is wrong has done NOTHING. If so, then why after 30 years is abortion still legal?**

Hillary is blocking the Parental Notification law-Bush wants to sign it. It’s bad law, millions other than Hillary oppose it. Hillary opposed Bush’s reimplementation of the mexico City protocol. Don’t know what that is, but if she opposed it, there were good reasons. Hillary opposed Bushs ban on giving US funds to organizations that promote or perform abortions. She is not alone on that one. Hillary opposed the Violence aganst the unborn act-Bush promoted it and signed it, Hillary opposed the partial Birth Abortion law, Bush promoted it and signed,it. Hillary opposed absitinence funding-Bush put it in his budget and to date has signed bills allocating over 50 millon to it. A waste of $50 mil.cause it’s not working. Hillary opposed Bush’s appointment of Pro-life Justices Roberts and Alito. Means nothing as both are PLINO just like Bush. Hillary helped block the Bush appointment of 6 other Pro-Life Judges to federal Courts. She was not alone in doing so. Hillary has voted against EVERY pro-life apointment to the judiciary Bush has made.

Bush is still a PLINO… no matter how you looki at it.

 

[mary_bobo]

Neither ticket will come to pass. McCain is too old, Giuliani too sick. Clinton, though I’d love her as president, has too many negatives in the minds of most, and Obama is too green.

I have not heard that Giuliani is sick. He had prostate cancer, had surgery and many forms of prostate cancer are very slow growing and he may be well for many years to come. But IMO, as I have said before, he is too liberal to get the nomination.

 

[sirduckjr]

Bush is still a PLINO… no matter how you looki at it.

Sorry, I don’t qualify as a Bush supporter but must say two things. Parental Notification on Abortion is not a bad law. Even Liberals will yell about the government intruding on their ability and right to parent. If you are against parental notification, you are absolutely a pro-choice wacko!

Second, Bush did sign veto the E.Stem Cell Bill. Against many in his party. So he is more than PLINO, but I still would not support him as a candidate ever again. Too bad I won’t get the chance.

 

[estesbob]

Bush is still a PLINO… no matter how you looki at it.

I presented proof that he has worked to end abortion in both word and deed. You a rebuttal with no sources, facts or evidence whatsover to back up you assertion. Can you provide us some evidence that George Bush is Pro-life in name only?

George Bush has been the most Pro-life President since Roe V Wade was forced on the countty 33 years ago.

 

[Bella3502]

I presented proof that he has worked to end abortion in both word and deed. You a rebuttal with no sources, facts or evidence whatsover to back up you assertion. Can you provide us some evidence that George Bush is Pro-life in name only?

George Bush has been the most Pro-life President since Roe V Wade was forced on the countty 33 years ago.

Abortion is still legal. He has done nothing. He talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk. That is sufficient evidence.
You have provided none.

 

[Jennifer123]

Abortion is still legal. He has done nothing. He talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk. That is sufficient evidence.
You have provided none.

It is much much easier for a President to keep abortion legal than to make it illegal.

 

[estesbob]

Abortion is still legal. He has done nothing. He talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk. That is sufficient evidence.
You have provided none.

Can you tell me what power the President has to make abortion illegal? This President has done more to limit abortion and further the process to get it banned than any other President in History.

Meanwhile while derinding Bush for not doing enough you encourage us to vote for those who have sworn to make taxpayer funded abortions the permanent law of the land. Does anyone else see the disconnect here?

 

[mary_bobo]

Abortion is still legal. He has done nothing. He talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk. That is sufficient evidence.
You have provided none.

Please take an opportunity to educate yourself on the three branches of government and what their functions are. That might help explain the problem. Then, again, maybe you are just a Bush hater that would find something wrong whatever he did.

 

[Bella3502]

Can you tell me what power the President has to make abortion illegal? This President has done more to limit abortion and further the process to get it banned than any other President in History.

Meanwhile while derinding Bush for not doing enough you encourage us to vote for those who have sworn to make taxpayer funded abortions the permanent law of the land. Does anyone else see the disconnect here?

He has limited nothing. That’s what PLINOs do. They say one thing and look the other way.

I haven’t encouraged anyone to vote for Clinton. I merely stated, on the issue of abortion they are the same. One of them just doesn’t tell the truth. I don’t think it is good to vote for a person that lies to get what he wants.

 

[estesbob]

He has limited nothing. That’s what PLINOs do. They say one thing and look the other way.

I haven’t encouraged anyone to vote for Clinton. I merely stated, on the issue of abortion they are the same. One of them just doesn’t tell the truth. I don’t think it is good to vote for a person that lies to get what he wants.

Mexico City protocol, ban on funding for international agenicies that promote or fund abortion,Parental notification , partial birth abortion ban, born alive act, all limited abortion-the partial birth abortion ban being the most significant limiitng of abortion in 35 years,

Hillary opposed ALL of the above as did the the overwhelming majortity of democrat congressmen. If you want to vote for those who aid and abette the slaughter of the innocents that is your right-but please dont try and tell the rest of us that “everyone does it”. My parents didnt buy that excuse when i was a kid and neither does our Church.

 

[Richardols]

I have not heard that Giuliani is sick. He had prostate cancer, had surgery and many forms of prostate cancer are very slow growing and he may be well for many years to come. But IMO, as I have said before, he is too liberal to get the nomination.

By sick, I meant for the reasons you listed. And, yes, he might be too liberal for some Republicans, but who knows these days? I can remember back to when the Republican Party was conservative, and not the big government, big spending bunch it turned into.