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Tetiaroa
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Someone visiting homes of Christians asking them whether or not they are saved? What is the logic behind the question? Aren’t Christians saved enough or what?
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lostandconfused
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In my experience I’ve mostly had extreme Bible-based-Baptist-type people sit me down and ask that question because they ask because they already “know” I’m not. They ask because they want you to say “No…” or “What?” so they can then explain to you the why/how/whens of “getting saved”.
A truly “Are you saved” type of Christian is probably asking you (if youre a Catholic especially) because they feel youre not “saved” (by their standards at least) at all and have absolutely no idea about anything and they need to educate you.
They ask because they think you need saving. They do not think youre truly there yet. Or in my case, they didnt think I even believe in Christ because I was a Catholic (common misconception strangely enough).
A truly “Are you saved” type of Christian is probably asking you (if youre a Catholic especially) because they feel youre not “saved” (by their standards at least) at all and have absolutely no idea about anything and they need to educate you.
They ask because they think you need saving. They do not think youre truly there yet. Or in my case, they didnt think I even believe in Christ because I was a Catholic (common misconception strangely enough).
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geometer
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Well, I had a sister-inlaw who was jewish, and a born again friend kept getting on her about being born again. So, she turned the table on him and asked him what being born again means. She stuck to her guns, and he finally had to admit that he could not answer the question.
So, keep that in mind. None of them has had an experience of second-birth of anykind. Don’t be afraid to give 'em a wakeup call, and ask what being born again means, why do you call it birth? etc…
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Tetiaroa
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Yes, I am Catholic and it kind of pisses me off when someone thinks I need to be educated on how to be saved because I am “not a Christian”. As a Catholic, I believe in God the almighty, maker of Heaven and Earth, for all that is seen an unseen. I believe in Jesus Christ his only son, begotten, not made etc etc… I just didn’t get the logic there.
These “Are you saved” type of Christians still regard us as non-Christians. Then they have this black book called the Bible and then they jump verses from here and there backing up what they are trying to say. What I usually tell them is “Hey, not unless you tell me what did Jesus write on the ground when he saved a sinful prostitute, I will listen to what you will preach to me” They wouldn’t answer and left me alone.
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Cluny
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Someone visiting homes of Christians asking them whether or not they are saved? What is the logic behind the question? Aren’t Christians saved enough or what?
I usually tell such people, “There’s a great deal of difference between what YOU mean by being saved and what the BIBLE means by being saved. You didn’t think they were the same thing, did you?”
If I get a “yes”, I then say, “Oh, my. This is worse than I thought.”
I usually tell such people, “There’s a great deal of difference between what YOU mean by being saved and what the BIBLE means by being saved. You didn’t think they were the same thing, did you?”
If I get a “yes”, I then say, “Oh, my. This is worse than I thought.”
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Miserissima
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These are all great answers. I found this thread:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=310350
To be saved, you don’t need a warm a fuzzy feeling. Here’s what I found in the other thread:
Or, to put it more succinctly, you can sum it up (as a Catholic) with what Tim Staples has said on the air, referred to in awalt’s signature [emphasis mine]:
being saved (1Cor 1:8),
and hope I’ll be saved (1Cor 3:12–15).
I’m working out my salvation in fear (Phil 2:12),
with hopeful confidence in Christ (Rom 5:2).
Incidentally, I threw a Fundamentalist “brother” for a curve with that one. In response to my answer, he said he wanted to speak with my husband, my “covering before the Lord,” as if my answer wasn’t good enough.
:banghead:
My husband, incidentally, is agnostic at best, and even that’s taken five years for him to come around and be open to the possibility of God.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=310350
To be saved, you don’t need a warm a fuzzy feeling. Here’s what I found in the other thread:
Just a note to the reference in Titus 3:5: we must cooperate with God’s grace, not just being unworthy recipients of it. For as in James 2:14 it says, “Faith without works is dead.”
Or, to put it more succinctly, you can sum it up (as a Catholic) with what Tim Staples has said on the air, referred to in awalt’s signature [emphasis mine]:
] saved (Eph 2:5–8),
being saved (1Cor 1:8),
and hope I’ll be saved (1Cor 3:12–15).
I’m working out my salvation in fear (Phil 2:12),
with hopeful confidence in Christ (Rom 5:2).
Incidentally, I threw a Fundamentalist “brother” for a curve with that one. In response to my answer, he said he wanted to speak with my husband, my “covering before the Lord,” as if my answer wasn’t good enough.
:banghead:
My husband, incidentally, is agnostic at best, and even that’s taken five years for him to come around and be open to the possibility of God.
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Gabriel_of_12
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Yes through baptism:
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Bellus
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Yes, through the shed blood of Christ. I was baptized in obedience to God’s word. The act of Baptism can’t get me to heaven. I trust Jesus and accept His free gift of grace. And I strive each day to follow Him, working out my own salvation. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation. The gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. Jesus died, our sins died with Him; He was buried, our sins were burried with Him, and He arose to our justification. If we truly accept His free gift we are saved. I think there are some who have had an experience and believe that just because the professed a belief and/or were baptized that was all there is to it. But the fruit we bear will bear witness to who our Father truly is.
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NDfan
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Tet many born again Christian groups will propose that you are not saved unless you “experience” the born again process. I’ve met groups that will claim you are not saved unless you can speak in tongues which they view as a sign you have received the Holy Spirit. I’ve heard folks claiming to be Christian literally say that Catholics are not saved. I cringe at this thought. If someone attends a Catholic Mass they will see how Christ-centered it is.
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emeraldcoast
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"Yes, I’m saved – over, and over, and over again through baptism and the renewal of my baptismal vows and by asking for and receiving forgiveness when I go astray.” ~The Rev. Dr. Stephen L. White
God Bless!
God Bless!
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kalt
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LOL
I’ve never had anyone ask if I’m saved.
I did have a good friend (a professed Christian, but I have my doubts now
) who called drinking the altar wine, “drinking the kool-aid”.Oh. He thinks he knows that he’s saved.
Drinking the kool-aid.
I can just imagine how his Sunday (or is it Saturday) services and Bible classes go. I flashed on Obama’s Rev. 
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cuzzyn17
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The question being “saved” , being the defining moment in my life that I turned away from my sinful ways (when I did not care about the evil I was practicing in) . I was “saved” and made a conscience effort to remove the practice of sin in my life. Where before it was a daily routine. I know we are not without sin but when we commit the same sin over and over without any effort to change it are we truly “saved” ?
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Catholic1954
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We are redeemed. We won’t know if we are saved until we get there.
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cuzzyn17
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Good point but if I was never “saved” from the road I was on redemption would have meant nothing to me.
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Janet1983
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This question is a very essential one.
I am saved. I am saved from the judgment that is to come.
The thing is that God will judge and sin will not go unpunished. Jesus however died on the cross for our sins and this sacrifice is sufficient once and for all.
I have Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and therefore I have the assurance that I will not be punished for my sins because Jesus was punished for me.
I was saved from what I was and I was saved from the fires of hell.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 20:14-15
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