Aren't protestants following tradition too?

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Gaelic_Bard said:
Everyone united to Christ by faith.
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This to me is a great escapist line. The question would be what faith? Faith has to be supported by belief. When we examine the various beliefs, well, they are not quite the same as what you would like them to. Except for some commonalities, the faith mentioned are so different apart that they are enough to be basis for a church on its own. So save us from trying to make that look so good because in reality if you are from different churches, there is actually no real unity. So which church is it?
 
Gaelic_Bard said:
Everyone united to Christ by faith.
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What about the differences in understanding the nature of Baptism; saves you now,
infant, non infant, etc.
What about the differences in understanding issues like The Lord’s Supper/Holy Communion? real presence, symbolic, etc.

Are those issues important to you?
Mary.
 
MaryT777 said:
It begs the question as to why one “needs” a Concord Book when one has the Bible.
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Why do we need councils and creeds? The Church holds a teaching role, and for Lutherans, the confessions serve that purpose. For example, the Small Catechism is used for catechetical training for youth, and it serves as a basic format for private confession/Absolution. The confessions, in many ways, serve us like the Catholic Catechism serves Catholics, and its about as big, too. :eek: 😃

Jon
 
MaryT777 said:
What about the differences in understanding the nature of Baptism; saves you now,
infant, non infant, etc.
What about the differences in understanding issues like The Lord’s Supper/Holy Communion? real presence, symbolic, etc.

Are those issues important to you?
Mary.
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Of course. But they neither indicate that faith is present nor deny it. Someone could affirm all the right doctrines and not have faith. Someone could be weong on baptism and have faith. What creates the church is that living union created with Him who is the head of the church.
 
po18guy said:
Whatever is handed on is tradition. Thus, the bible they received from those who went before them is also tradition - just written tradition. All Christians rely on tradition - they have to.

I’ll bet they sing “It Came Upon A Midnight Clear” at their Christmas services. Where in the bible is any reference whatsoever to the weather conditions, or the exact time of Christ’s birth?

Tradition.
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Except for the Protestants who do not celebrate Christmas as part of their own denominations tradition.

Of course many of them would deny even being i****n a denomination, since they think of themselves as the only “Christians” in existence.
 
Gaelic_Bard said:
Not creating a dichotomy, Nicea. Simply pointing out that it isn’t there.
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No…it is there, it just that your denomination as so many rather adhere to “Johnny-comle-lately” men who founded thie own churches centuries later and kicked all Apostolic Traditions to the curb.
 
Nicea325 said:
Really? That is it? If united by Christ,then why the need for so many denominations, non-denomiations,etc,etc?
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I had a Muslim ask me this. I didn’t know where to start:blush:

Except I could only mutter “Freewill”😃

MJ
 
JonNC said:
Why do we need councils and creeds? The Church holds a teaching role, and for Lutherans, the confessions serve that purpose. For example, the Small Catechism is used for catechetical training for youth, and it serves as a basic format for private confession/Absolution. The confessions, in many ways, serve us like the Catholic Catechism serves Catholics, and its about as big, too. :eek: 😃

Jon
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Back to Square 1…That huge
Concord book needs a crane to rent to read it LOL 🙂
In jest of course.

Mary.
 
Nicea325 said:
No…it is there, it just that your denomination as so many rather adhere to “Johnny-comle-lately” men who founded thie own churches centuries later and kicked all Apostolic Traditions to the curb.
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It is? Paul describes bishops, elders and deacons in his pastoral epistles. Please show me where he describes the papacy.
 
JonNC said:
Authoritative in what sense? Equal to scripture? No. Of course we see the Book of Concord as a right reflection of the truth of the faith.

Jon
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Does calling the pope an anti-christ is a right reflection of Scripture, Jon?

Is this a proper teaching of a church?
 
pablope said:
Does calling the pope an anti-christ is a right reflection of Scripture, Jon?

Is this a proper teaching of a church?
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it’s his OFFICE is anti-Christ is what LCMS posters state on this board.
That issue has been “danced around” never really answered except this Pope or that Pope isn’t anti Christ etc etc. or it seems certain LCMS members no longer agree with this.

If it no longer applies the Lutheran Confessions should so be amended (if that’s possible to admit one made a mistkae) It would help further “ecumentical” dialogue.

In a “right” ecumenical council as defined by the Lutheran. This seems do be defined by the LCMS as one that agrees with th Lutheran Confessions as its outcome.
 
MaryT777 said:
it’s his OFFICE is anti-Christ is what LCMS posters state on this board.
That issue has been “danced around” never really answered except this Pope or that Pope isn’t anti Christ etc etc. or it seems certain LCMS members no longer agree with this.

If it no longer applies the Lutheran Confessions should so be amended (if that’s possible to admit one made a mistkae) It would help further “ecumentical” dialogue.

In a “right” ecumenical council as defined by the Lutheran. This seems do be defined by the LCMS as one that agrees with th Lutheran Confessions as its outcome.
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It should be, if simply because it is based on a certain historical view popular during the period that held Revelation was being fulfilled during the time of the Reformation. From a historical perspective, this is where the idea of the RCC being the harlot of Babylon comes from, etc.
 
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