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So, I’m in an online discussion with a gentleman. I’m making the claim that the presence of order is evidence of the existence of God. I used the “finding a watch on the beach analogy.” Below is his response. Can someone help me make sense out of it? Thanks!
The reason a machine looks odd and we imagine it must have a creator is that it is not similar to the other things we see in the natural world. But if you talk of a creator OF the entire universe, there is no external thing to compare against to see if the world we live in has more order than one that was not directed would. The machine looks designed because it’s different from natural things. But there isn’t anything else to compare the universe itself to to make this same judgement about it. (It’s ironic that you claim the natural world is designed when it’s the difference between that natural world and designed things that makes us conclude THEY are designed.)
So, I’m in an online discussion with a gentleman. I’m making the claim that the presence of order is evidence of the existence of God. I used the “finding a watch on the beach analogy.” Below is his response. Can someone help me make sense out of it? Thanks!
The reason a machine looks odd and we imagine it must have a creator is that it is not similar to the other things we see in the natural world. But if you talk of a creator OF the entire universe, there is no external thing to compare against to see if the world we live in has more order than one that was not directed would. The machine looks designed because it’s different from natural things. But there isn’t anything else to compare the universe itself to to make this same judgement about it. (It’s ironic that you claim the natural world is designed when it’s the difference between that natural world and designed things that makes us conclude THEY are designed.)