Argument on Christ's mercy for secularists

[Clovis]

I personally know what it is like to grow up believing that there wasn’t a God, because I was taught by my parents whom I trusted and loved that this was the case. I would still surely think this way if it wasn’t for events in my life that first made me believe in God, and soon after believe in Christ. Christ felt strongly that adults should not teach children not to believe in him. This has made me believe Christ doesn’t hold secular people fully responsible for their situation. It seems to be further proof that, in the end, he will reveal his existence to us all, and while tribulation might be inevitable, hell surely isn’t. I myself, once believed in God, had severe personal tribulation as to the immoral life I had led, thinking soley of the wretch I must appear as to God. Prehaps this type of self regret and loathing might be one of the worse effects of non-believers, once they actually become aware of the truth in the end.

What do you think about what I said, do you think there might be much truth in it?

 

[CindiA]

I personally know what it is like to grow up believing that there wasn’t a God, because I was taught by my parents whom I trusted and loved that this was the case. I would still surely think this way if it wasn’t for events in my life that first made me believe in God, and soon after believe in Christ. Christ felt strongly that adults should not teach children not to believe in him. This has made me believe Christ doesn’t hold secular people fully responsible for their situation. It seems to be further proof that, in the end, he will reveal his existence to us all, and while tribulation might be inevitable, hell surely isn’t. I myself, once believed in God, had severe personal tribulation as to the immoral life I had led, thinking soley of the wretch I must appear as to God. Prehaps this type of self regret and loathing might be one of the worse effects of non-believers, once they actually become aware of the truth in the end.

What do you think about what I said, do you think there might be much truth in it?

I’m sorry Clovis, but I don’t know what you are asking. Could you be more specific?

 

[rwoehmke]

Sounds like Clovis may be concerned that objective sins committed by seculars will be fully held against them after they have come to the Lord and recognize the sinfulness of their past life.

 

[Clovis]

Sounds like Clovis may be concerned that objective sins committed by seculars will be fully held against them after they have come to the Lord and recognize the sinfulness of their past life.

Not exactly.

I still sin to this day because I’m only human. But I have none-the-less become a far better person, simply because I don’t fall for being mighty in mens eye’s anymore, it is always God I’m concerned with now-a-days. I believe we will all know the truth one day, and much of our pains will come from self-realizations; It’s a very reasonable theory, even if no one seems to agree.

 

[timoteosantiago]

Hey Clovis,
I understand your point and I do certainly agree that God will be known to all persons at some points. Congratulations on your way home to Christ. I hope to encourage you in your sufferings, or as you call them, self-realizations. You see, we are all called to suffer because of the sins we commit. It is only when we find out that there is a God who was willing enough to send His Son to share in these same sufferings that they actually make sense. With God, all sufferings are given as means to draw closer to Him. In fact, He says specifically in Corinthians that “There is no obsticle that is placed in front of us that we can’t find a way around,” paraphrased this means that God won’t give us more than we can handle, EVERYTHING is possible.
In regards to your parents, I am terribly sorry to hear that their souls have not yet come to the humbeling realization that there is a God who really and truly loves them. God will show them that He certainly does exist. In fact, he does it everyday whether they know it or not. The tinest part of nature is a part of God’s love… even their fruits (you) can be a ongoing sign of His love.
The Bible warns us that if we do not come to this realization while on earth, it could be trouble. The good thing about this though is that no one but God can read the hearts of men. This means that your parents, although they say there isn’t a God, might truly be struggling inside to believe these words, and might truly have hope that there is a God out there that loves them. Who know, maybe you can be the one to help them realize it. Worth a shot right? What do you have to loose besides their,and your, eternal lives?
To wrap this up, The Great Pope John Paul II quoted that “God is part of understanding the human person, and whoever takes God away from human beings is taking away what is deepest and most truly human in us.”
He went on to say something that might make more sense in your situation: “Humility [is] going through a remarkably fluid period of history, one devoit of any solid moral or rational base, a time of collapsing values and ideologies in which he who wishes to go forward has only one choice left… to walk on water.”

 

[Clovis]

Thank you timoteosantiego, for your kind words. I try and help my parents on these issues, but it simply seems that it hasn’t clicked yet with them. I know it will eventually though, as the scripture says, “Every eye shall see Him…”