Arrgh! Worst Mass I've seen in this diocese

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I knew that we were off to a bad start when the Priest began his greeting with “God your Father & Mother”…

He adlibbed most of the Mass (most of it was a paraphrase of the liturgy), the Priest stopped reading halfway through the Gospel reading for today…he didn’t want to read this part:
Mark 9: 42 - 48:
42 "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung round his neck and he were thrown into the sea.
43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.
45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell.
47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell,
48 where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.
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He explained during his homily that he “didn’t want us to get the wrong idea”.

He completely made up his own Eucharistic prayer, and during the prayer he had the congregation say the following after every “verse” of his prayer:
“We thank you Lord, we praise you Lord, we love you Lord”
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He had the congregation doing that throughout the entire liturgy of the Eucharist.

There were other things he did, like breaking the host at the wrong point, etc. I would have just swallowed my anger if that were all I had to deal with, but this is terrible…

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I’m not sure what I’m going to do about this…I know the Bishop won’t do anything…I’m getting so sick of this diocese…
 
Do not tollerate garbage like this! The priest is breaking so many liturgical rules I won’t even start to list them.
It is highly likely, from what you have reported, that the mass was not only irregular but invalid.
Complain directly to the bishop. Ask politley for the bishop to take action about this travesty of a mass. Send a copy of the letter to Rome. At the bottom of your letter to the Bishop simply state that a copy of your letter has been sent to Rome.
I feel sorry for you. Unfortunately I too have experienced “shocker” masses. The arrogance of the priests who think they have a right to play with the Church’s holy liturgy like this is mind blowing.
Do not forget the power of prayer.
God bless you and bring you holy priests.
 
I guess I’m just venting right now…

When I calm down a bit I’ll write the Priest involved…& CC the Bishop. I think I’ll talk to another priest I know (one of the few orthodox ones in town…) and see what he suggests. It seems that our Bishop is the cause of our woes…maybe we can get an answer from Rome…
 
Isidore_AK said:
I guess I’m just venting right now…

When I calm down a bit I’ll write the Priest involved…& CC the Bishop. I think I’ll talk to another priest I know (one of the few orthodox ones in town…) and see what he suggests. It seems that our Bishop is the cause of our woes…maybe we can get an answer from Rome…
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You’re only gonna get the run around. I tried that route for several years before I finally started going exclusively to the TLM.
 
Isidore_AK said:
I guess I’m just venting right now…

When I calm down a bit I’ll write the Priest involved…& CC the Bishop. I think I’ll talk to another priest I know (one of the few orthodox ones in town…) and see what he suggests. It seems that our Bishop is the cause of our woes…maybe we can get an answer from Rome…
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Someone on CAF recorded the abusive masses going on and sent the tape to Rome. Have you considered that?
 
Why is it that when we see this going on and we try to report it nothing gets done or resolved? Why if you wrote to the Bishop that he would not do anything about this abuse? Why are we subject to this and yet we are stuck because the bishops don’t take any action.
 
Document it very carefully, bring a recorder to Mass if necessary.

Then send your findings is a letter to the bishop and make it VERY plain that you are sending a copy of that letter to the Papal Nuncio.

Make it very clear that Redemptionis Sacramentum gives you an absolute right to a Mass conducted according to the GIRM.

And don’t forget to send the copy to the Nuncio.
 
You should respectfully challenge this priest over his liturgical practices, armed with the GIRM. Is no one else in your parish else concerned? A group meeting, or a petition with many parishioners’ signatures will get more attention than one.

Do you know where your bishop stands on such liturgical issues. Will you get any support? In many American dioceses, you’d simply be considered another conservative crank trying to tell a priest how to do his job.
 
Unfortunately there are thousands of Catholics who do not know that such heresy on the altar does not have to be accepted. It is delusional to believe that the Vatican (Curia) and our Pope does not KNOW that such insults to God are taking place. The Vatican (including our popes) has preached and supported error before it has been doing so for the past 30 to 40 years. NONE of their preaching and teaching, however, has been promulgated as “definitive doctrine.” Therefore they cannot (and do not) claim “infallibility” in this Modernistic teaching.

The traditional Latin Mass, the traditional liturgy in its entireity and the the traditional faith of The Church, however, is available to the faithful - and it does not have to be granted by a papal “indult” granting “permission” for something that was never prohibited.

The Priestly Society of St. Piux X (SSPX) has been actively fighting (in the manner of St. Athanasius centuries ago) the heresies and errors of modernism. They have NOT been declared schismatic, as may be believed. They pray the Tridentine Mass, the adhere to the traditional faith and they offer VALID sacraments. Unfortunately there is much more demand for their priests than there are priests available to meet those demands, but that is changing.

I note the original writer is in Alaska. There is an SSPX Chapel, St. Therese, Patron of Alaska Mission, in Anchorage. Phone No. is 907-349-2042 and is located at 11610 Old Seward Hwy in Anchorage. I can provide other phone numbers and addresses for other SSPX chapels. If anyone is interested, let me know.

There is absolutely no point in using the devil’s weapons to fight the devil, and there is no need to.
 
Ah yes, Bishops who do not act. How do you know? Authority is of no use unless those in lesser position accept and recognize it. Its really only functional when recognized by both parties. The Bishop speaks and is ignored. What is he going to do? Heaven forbid he should make a public stink or have the underling flogged.
 
Maureen_Fiore said:
Why is it that when we see this going on and we try to report it nothing gets done or resolved? Why if you wrote to the Bishop that he would not do anything about this abuse? Why are we subject to this and yet we are stuck because the bishops don’t take any action.
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…but have a Priest say one “unauthorized” TLM and whammm!!!.. excomunication baby… what a sad situation.
 
rwoehmke said:
Ah yes, Bishops who do not act. How do you know? Authority is of no use unless those in lesser position accept and recognize it. Its really only functional when recognized by both parties. The Bishop speaks and is ignored. What is he going to do? Heaven forbid he should make a public stink or have the underling flogged.
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That is only partially true. “Authority” must also EXERCISE its authority - by force if that is what it takes. The belief that it MUST be “recognized” (accepted?) by those who are expected to obey is another symptom of egalitarianism run amok that is so prevalent in the modernistic world and church. The notion of “collegiality” that came out of V2 is strictly a modern construct. If the Pope pronounced restated some of the anathematic beliefs identified by Pope St. Pius X and followed that up with excommunications of those who “accept” being anathema his (the pope’s) authority would soon exist again. When the pope surrenders his authority to “collegiality” chaos in The Church ensued.
 
8640 said:
MOzarker;1541464:
his (the pope’s) authority would soon exist again.
Wait, are you saying the Pope has no authority?
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Good heavens NO! The pope has more authority than any living person in this world. His power affects eternity. No dictator has EVER had that kind of power. The crisis in The Church is being exacerbated because the pope will not use his authority. The past few popes have all suffered from the pandemic, modernistic disease called “egalitarianism.”
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rjs1 said:
Do not forget the power of prayer.
God bless you and bring you holy priests.
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True. Never forget the power of prayer, but as the nuns taught back in the days before V2, “Pray as if everything depended upon God, but WORK as if everything depended upon you.” God will allow His Church to run amok -up to a point. He, of course, will not allow the Pope to authoritatively teach or promote heresy. And despite all the abuses the more recent popes and bishops have promulgated or allowed, no pope in recent history has DEFINED any doctrines that differ in any respect from what The Magesterium has always taught.
 
The crisis in The Church is being exacerbated because the pope will not use his authority.
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In reality, you can have no way of knowing that because what might look like the Pope not excercising his authority is acutally the Pope excercising his authority. We tend to think if it’s not our way it’s not God’s way. Sometimes the way to correct error is not vocal but spiritual and silent. Also, correcting abuses in the Church can be like trying to churn up the ocean. It can take a long time for the waves to hit the shore. And sometimes, it might not be the Pope who is supposed to do the work at all but us. Just because you don’t see the result you want doesn’t mean that it’s not being done right. We still have original sin to contend with.
 
Very sad. Perhaps you can find a TLM or DL in your area to attend.
 
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