Arrogance & Hypocrisy of "Traditionalists"

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Nota Bene. like the man with the flat tire said. “spare me!” you are like a gadfly here. what are you for then?
 
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aspawloski4th:
Nota Bene. like the man with the flat tire said. “spare me!” you are like a gadfly here. what are you for then?
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What?
 
ok… I know what you are against! what are you for?! what do you agree with? before I start making assumptions
 
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ok… I know what you are against! what are you for?! what do you agree with? before I start making assumptions
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1.) Abuse-free Masses.

2.) Excellent pizza.

3.) A good book.
 
well its nice to hear you are for abuse free Masses. it does seem you are very worried about what method is used to avoid a Mass with abuses, Im not. as far as Im concearned on this subject the end justifies the mean. Ill be against parrish shopping, and changing parrishes, and things the trads do to avoid abusefull Masses, when the Vatican officially condemns it, which hasnt happeded yet. as long as that hasnt happed yet the trads are perfectly in their right to go to what ever parrish they feel is right to go to.
 
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aspawloski4th:
well its nice to hear you are for abuse free Masses. it does seem you are very worried about what method is used to avoid a Mass with abuses, Im not. as far as Im concearned on this subject the end justifies the mean. Ill be against parrish shopping, and changing parrishes, and things the trads do to avoid abusefull Masses, when the Vatican officially condemns it, which hasnt happeded yet. as long as that hasnt happed yet the trads are perfectly in their right to go to what ever parrish they feel is right to go to.
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The Vatican officially condemns liturgical abuses – and that dosen’t stop the abusers.

Fleeing does nothing but weaken the Church…
 
Nota Bene:
The Vatican officially condemns liturgical abuses – and that dosen’t stop the abusers.

Fleeing does nothing but weaken the Church…
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No offense, but I quit washing my hogs every morning lonnnnggg ago.
 
Nota Bene:
The Vatican officially condemns liturgical abuses – and that dosen’t stop the abusers.
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I remember in school that certain "loosy-goosy-latest culture fashion “flexible” girls attracted a certain kind of guy. ( I think they call them abusers these days…so the girls escape any complicity).
The virtuous, modest strict “inflexible” ones seemed to be left to the virtuous family oriented guys.
Just a thought.
 
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TNT:
I remember in school that certain "loosy-goosy-latest culture fashion “flexible” girls attracted a certain kind of guy. ( I think they call them abusers these days…so the girls escape any complicity).
The virtuous, modest strict “inflexible” ones seemed to be left to the virtuous family oriented guys.
Just a thought.
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I’m curious – Are you making this up as you type? Your analogy seems oddly lost…
 
Nota Bene. fleeing does one thing thing in the eyes of my parents who I mentioned earlier, it keeps my 13 yearold brother being exposed to heresy in the Mass, to them that kind of exposure is scandlelising a child. have you thought of the idea, that maybe the church is weakening itself by these abuses rather than people fleeing these parishes? I know of a nearby parish where many have fled because of an ultra modernist priest. these people tryed reasoning with him first. but being this priest came out of the military ,he told the parisheners they better come up to date, and learn to throw out all thier old ways. one can only do so much. why do we just condemn liturgy abuses like the Vatican has rather than fleeing them which the Vatican hasnt.
 
Nota Bene:
I’m curious – Are you making this up as you type? Your analogy seems oddly lost…
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No need to get emotional.

It’s only lost on a liberal. (part of the definition …mental DISorder.)

It says, in effect, or by analogy, that objects that are already oriented toward abuse, will constantly attract the abusers.
Objects that are oriented against abuse, ie have strict guards against abuse, discourage abuser attraction. It’s too difficult for them to abuse easily.
Finally, in today’s psycho world, and that of liberals, the Object is always relieved of any responsibility or complicity, (the NOM itself) and the abuser is the only target.
In other words, focus on the symptom, deny any cause oriented in the object.
And thus your singular insight:
The Vatican officially condemns liturgical abuses (symptoms) – and that doesn’t stop the abusers.
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The TLM attendees got right away.

ps. I make up everything as I type.
 
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aspawloski4th:
Nota Bene. fleeing does one thing thing in the eyes of my parents who I mentioned earlier, it keeps my 13 year old brother being exposed to heresy in the Mass, to them that kind of exposure is scandlelising a child. have you thought of the idea, that maybe the church is weakening itself by these abuses rather than people fleeing these parishes? I know of a nearby parish where many have fled because of an ultra modernist priest. these people tryed reasoning with him first. but being this priest came out of the military ,he told the parisheners they better come up to date, and learn to throw out all thier old ways. one can only do so much. why do we just condemn liturgy abuses like the Vatican has rather than fleeing them which the Vatican hasnt.
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So now there is “heresy” at your Masses? What sorts of “heresy?”
 
to answer your question to me Noa bene. examples would be things like lay people giving homilies, the priest not genuflecting after saying" do this in rememberence of me", changing the words of the eucharistic prayer, etc…
 
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