Art history questions my faith...as well as history itself

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modern humans did not exist 3 million years ago
Really? Then if you’re right then my history book must be wrong :rolleyes: because there’s a picture of a Paleolitic pebble with a human-like face on it as if someone made it themselves. The says it’s from 3,000,000 B.C. But I don’t know anything so I should keep my yap shut!

But then again, it seems like you can’t trust ANYTHING :hmmm:
 
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Forest-Pine:
The fact of the matter is that PhDs by and large are a very liberal profession. !
My brother (who is a PhD) says that the letters stand for “piled higher and deeper.” 😃

Bob Hope, in a movie said that it stands for “pin-headed dope.” (My kids like that one. 😛 )
 
Paris Blues:
But on the other hand, I think my instructor did mention that people did “worship” animals a long time ago. But why the heck would you worship a created thing and not the Creator? 😦
History is interesting what people chose to worship. I don’t know of any way of telling what the cave men worshipped. If I saw a picture of a bull on the wall with a person in front of it, my guess would be that it was one of two things: either his every day life and what he dealt with on a regular basis, or so out of the ordinary that it was worth drawing about. The more common it became, the more common I would think the scene would be.

Look at our art today. A lot of landscapes. A lot of techno-metal. A lot of buildings. Animals. Scenes from life. And make-believe. Can you imagine how it would be interpreted if the only art that survived our time to later be interpreted was The Scream?
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I’d say that that alien clearly is scared of the people. And it looks like the world is on fire. Maybe that was his space ship crashing… I mean, it could go anywhere!

Later in history, after oral and written traditions were passed down from one generation to another, we start getting a more accurate picture of faith lives. The Bible itself is clear about the pagan ways of certain countries. In Egypt, cats were sacred. In many places, the king/emporer/ruler was seen as a diety. These different religions is what the professors point out to “prove” that Christianity is no different–all societies have some sort of supernatural belief, and Christianity is simply ours. Christianity’s history is actually VERY different, though.

What is interesting, too, is that these people who debase religion will also say that it is a mark of civilization to have religious beliefs. It seems we are programmed to tune in to the spiritual life. There are even medical studies which say we have a “God center” in the brain. If they are right, the question then becomes which religion is right. Only Christianity can stand up to history.

Of the Christian religions, very few can stand up to science. Catholicism is obviously one of them. (PS, you ARE dealing with science in your art history class. How did they find the art? How did they date it? How are they preserving it? All through science…)

While we do have documented cases of animal worship (the Hindus regard the cow as sacred to this day), I would be very leery of a professor who was reading into some cave drawing from 3 million BC what her current situation and society is dealing with. While it would be interesting for everyone to “suppose” what the drawing signifies, I would not expect the teacher to attribute any more to it than that humans existed, animals existed, and humans used art to record events. We don’t know if they were ritualistic or not. Anything more is her attempt to step outside her discipline and into religion.
 
Well, I guess the point I’m trying to make is, would God have revealed Himself to these people back then? If so, they wouldn’t have been worshipping the “animals”. See my point?

And if He did, they probably rejected Him and decided to worship the “animals”, how lovely! NOT! :rolleyes: If that’s the case, I can’t believe why people would reject God and worship “animals”! Or other people which were considered “gods” and “goddesses”, how crazy.
 
Paris:

I really really think you’ll like what was earlier suggested to you

The Everlasting Man by GK Chesterton.

One of my top 10 books.

in XT
 
Paris Blues:
Well, I guess the point I’m trying to make is, would God have revealed Himself to these people back then? If so, they wouldn’t have been worshipping the “animals”. See my point?

And if He did, they probably rejected Him and decided to worship the “animals”, how lovely! NOT! :rolleyes: If that’s the case, I can’t believe why people would reject God and worship “animals”! Or other people which were considered “gods” and “goddesses”, how crazy.
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          The most logical explanation and the one widely held. These depictions were not items of worship *per se.* Simply totems, similar to the enemy flags painted on planes. Do you suggest those pilots worship the pilot they shot down? The artist may have been reminding his clan what a great hunter he was, or they may have been a reminder to himself. Winters coming and game will be scarce, if I don't kill one of these we'll starve. As to what they, may or may not, have worshiped. My most educated guess would be fire. 
                 Dan
 
Paris Blues:
Really? Then if you’re right then my history book must be wrong :rolleyes: because there’s a picture of a Paleolitic pebble with a human-like face on it as if someone made it themselves. The says it’s from 3,000,000 B.C. But I don’t know anything so I should keep my yap shut!

But then again, it seems like you can’t trust ANYTHING :hmmm:
The websites I found for the Lascaux cave drawings say that they date from 13 to 15 thousand years BC. That’s a far cry from 3 million.
 
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JimG:
The websites I found for the Lascaux cave drawings say that they date from 13 to 15 thousand years BC. That’s a far cry from 3 million.
Sir:
If I put my mind to it as you evidently have, I could find websites that claim Elvis is alive and well. Sites that claim the moon landing was a hoax snd was actually filmed on a secret sound stage on Earth. As Isaac Asimovv said. "Give me any set of facts, by choosing what I wish I can prove the Earths flat. Dan
 
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dancus:
Sir:
If I put my mind to it as you evidently have, I could find websites that claim Elvis is alive and well. Sites that claim the moon landing was a hoax snd was actually filmed on a secret sound stage on Earth. As Isaac Asimovv said. "Give me any set of facts, by choosing what I wish I can prove the Earths flat. Dan
Well, you’re quire right about that, and the Internet, particularly has to be used with caution.

When Paris posted her orignal post, it mentioned drawings from 3 million years BC. I thought she might be referring to the Lascaux cave drawings in France. Not being familiar with the facts, I can’t vouch for the dating of 13-15,000 BC; it came from one of the sites I found. In any case, there’s quite a difference between something that is 15,000 years old and something that’s 3 million years old; so I hope that the prof who is giving out this information has got the fact straight, and is not just throwing out wild numbers.
 
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AquinasXVI:
Paris:

I really really think you’ll like what was earlier suggested to you

The Everlasting Man by GK Chesterton.

One of my top 10 books.

in XT
On this note, can anyone instruct me on how to join the book club?
 
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