Article - Ukraine: Orthodox Church torn between its autonomy and its loyalty to Moscow

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vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/news/detail/articolo/ucraina-ukraine-ucrania-13319/

I had seen something on a similar topic before but I could not find the thread so I decided to start a new one. If this article is accurate, it does not sound like things are getting any better between our Russian and Ukrainian Orthodox brothers and sisters. I pray that this is not the case.

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You don’t seem to have any bites 😉 Okay, I’ll start

From that article

“Moscow reacted by excommunicating Filaret, who said that before decided on the split, men from the FSB (the Russian secret service, once known as KGB) had taken part in a Synod in which the Church of Moscow had tried to persuade him to resign.”

  1. *]If this is truly an autocephelous Church, then based on the fact the EO don’t have a pope, how can any Church particularly the ROC, do this to another autonomous Church? I ask this of the EO for purposes of learning what autocephelous means
    *]Alexei II (sp) , deceased past patriarch of the ROC, was a member of the KGB. His codename was Drozdov. Many stories about this patriarch can be researched. Thus the connection of the KGB to the hierarchy of the ROC is not new.

    Like anyother research item, I’m sure while one researches him, one will have to wade through what’s solid facts from what is fiction.

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    "Today, many people in Moscow and in the Eastern part of Ukraine, where Russian is the main language, regret the decisions that were made in the 90’s. There are those who openly talk about placing the Ukrainian Church once more directly under the authority of the Russian Patriarchate, like at the time of the Soviet Union. The Patriarch of Moscow, Cyril, apparently suggested that Vladimir might now be no longer capable of running the Church and that there is the need for a closer collaboration with the Mother-Church in Russia.

    The clerics, upon reviewing the Church statute might, as a first step, want to eliminate the adjective ‘Ukrainian’ from the official title of the Church, in order to avoid giving a foothold to the nationalists.

    Vladimir and his pupil Alexander are also apparently ‘guilty’ of building relationships with the Ukrainian society and especially with other Christian Churches.     Not long before he was removed, Alexander, who was also in charge of the Department for External Church Relations of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (in other words he was the ’minister of foreign affairs’) had established good relations with the Greek-Catholic Church, which Moscow had always looked upon with suspicion.

    The *Ukraine is a key piece in the complex reconnection *game between Moscow and Rome and it might even bring about the much hoped for meeting between Pope Benedict XVI and Cyril. In 2010 the ‘minister of foreign affairs’ of the Patriarchate of Moscow, the Metropolitan Hilarion had pointed out that the controversies between Moscow and the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church are the principle obstacle to the possible reconciliation between Moscow and Rome."

    I think I can see what’s going on. It’s not okay to be in union with Rome, and it’s not okay to seek reconciliation with Rome.
 
Mitropolit Vladimir is as he told just 20 March interviewer still is exarch of Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which is an exarchate of Russian Orthodox Church, like is Belorussian Orthodox church. Our church is not independent, Patriarch Kirill is our patriarch! I do not understand why you believe that everything that happens anywhere is due to the Catholic church. Nothing in Ukrainian Orthodox church regarding Greko Catholics has any influence on current difficulties - only poor health of our beloved Mitropolit. Those who wanted to be disrupt Holy Orthodoxy left with Filaret in 1992 - and we should pray that they return to their Mother Church. But this has nothing to do with Greko Catholics or Rome.
 
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