As a Catholic, I envy Mormons this

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Gertabelle said:
Or they don’t follow, and leave their church and wonderful community behind – because former members are absolutely not wanted.
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I don’t think that’s how it works.
You got it backwards.
The Missionaries show up almost weekly at the homes of former members.
These former members end up hiding behind the curtains.
 
It does seem that the Church of LDS isn’t shy about labeling folks apostates, which can have a scarlet letter effect.
 
Funny that they need their alleged “prophet” to tell them what to do. Jesus tells us what to do and how we are to live our lives. Jesus is #1.
 
Actually, many Mormons do drink caffeine whether in coffee, tea or colas. They also drink, smoke and do other things Mormons publicly claim not to do. I was told this by Mormons who supposedly hold high positions in their churches.
 
tgGodsway said:
They haven’t found out that eternal life is a free Gift to us who have accepted the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Savior. So many fight against this wonderful gift.
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A couple of points…
  1. How “free” is the gift really if ones needs to accept something to qualify for the gift? Perhaps “easy gift” is a better description of your belief?
  2. By your criteria, we Mormons will receive Eternal Life since we accept “the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Savior.” ( I assume the other denominations listed do also.) Seems your complaint can only be that others unknowingly do more than the minimum needed for Eternal Life. (And isn’t that a good thing?)
 
I’m assuming you’ve never lived in a Muslim country.
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Sometimes I’d like to dispense with the styling products, mascara and foundation and just throw a veil over it all LOL
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They don’t. As a woman I’ve seen what is actually behind those veils.

They’re as into hairstyling, makeup, and other things as Western women are (I don’t mean in Afghanistan - not every Muslim nation is behind the iron veil). You just don’t see it.

The UAE and Bahrain are different worlds. Even Saudi is far different than many Westerners would expect in that regard.
 
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gazelam said:
How “free” is the gift really if ones needs to accept something to qualify for the gift? Perhaps “easy gift” is a better description of your belief?
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the scripture says that every man has been given a measure of faith. Believing in something is not a work. You are free to believe the message of Christ but also free to reject it.
 
gazelam said:
By your criteria, we Mormons will receive Eternal Life since we accept “the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Savior.” ( I assume the other denominations listed do also.) Seems your complaint can only be that others unknowingly do more than the minimum needed for Eternal Life. (And isn’t that a good thing?)
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It is NOT a good thing if they “believe” this is what is needed to be saved. Doing good works for all the wrong reasons is a misdirected work that can misrepresent God’s kindness toward the sinner and devalue mercy.

But back to your earlier statements as a Mormon. I cannot clearly say that your belief in the sacrificial death, burial, and resurrection of Christ is all about the same Christ.

We may agree on the sacrificial work done, but do we agree in the one who did the work?

Is your Christ the eternal only begotten Son? Is He the Only true God (Jn.17:3) among every false gods? (2nd. Cor. 4) Is your Christ the only God in all of the universe and beyond? Isaiah 43:10.

If He is, then I’m not sure why you call yourself a Mormon.
If He is not, then I’m not sure why you thought you have salvation in the first place.

What are your thoughts?
 
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Call me crazy, but I do not envy any other religion.
I love the Catholic Church.
 
I like the missions they send their young people on, shame Catholics don’t do something similar.
 
tgGodsway said:
It is NOT a good thing if they “believe” this is what is needed to be saved. Doing good works for all the wrong reasons is a misdirected work that can misrepresent God’s kindness toward the sinner and devalue mercy.
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The real question is whether misdirected works negate the gift of Eternal Life under your salvation paradigm. If sin doesn’t negate the gift (which I assume is your belief), then how could misdirected works negate the gift? At worst, misdirected works are simply another sin.
tgGodsway said:
But back to your earlier statements as a Mormon. I cannot clearly say that your belief in the sacrificial death, burial, and resurrection of Christ is all about the same Christ.
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So, are you saying that in addition to accepting “the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Savior” are really not sufficient to receive Eternal Life and that other “Orthodox” beliefs (like say, the Nicene Creed) are also required?
 
tgGodsway said:
We may agree on the sacrificial work done, but do we agree in the one who did the work?

Is your Christ the eternal only begotten Son? Is He the Only true God (Jn.17:3) among every false gods? (2nd. Cor. 4) Is your Christ the only God in all of the universe and beyond? Isaiah 43:10.

If He is, then I’m not sure why you call yourself a Mormon.
If He is not, then I’m not sure why you thought you have salvation in the first place.

What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that I won’t take this thread further off topic at this point. I may wait to respond after the on-topic activity has ceased. Or it you want to start a new thread on the LDS belief of the nature of God I may engage you there. Take care and God bless you…
 
Except that the Jesus Mormons believe in is Lucifer’s brother and did not become a god until he died and was voted into the godhood by the gods who were there before him, the same gods who voted his father into same.

The Jesus Christians believe in and have a relationship with has always been God and did not stop being God when He became human. He has 2 natures, one fully human, the other fully Divine.
 
lilypadrees said:
Except that the Jesus Mormons believe in is Lucifer’s brother and did not become a god until he died and was voted into the godhood by the gods who were there before him, the same gods who voted his father into same.
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Mormons believe in voting gods?!?! Do you have a reference for that?
 
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