As a Christian, do you consider the Blessed Virgin Mary as your Mother?

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I voted no … but not because it’s not in the Bible. My faith isn’t based on the Bible alone.

Mainly because I just don’t think of her as “my Mother.” Mother of Jesus… yes. I think of her as the best example of a Christian mother & follower of Christ… and I often ask her to pray for me.

But I can’t say I ever think of her as my mother. Maybe I haven’t been Catholic long enough?
I think you should read the Catechism of the Catholic Church because it teaches that Mary is Our Mother. I also read that you are a convert to Catholicism.

Did you not say yes when the priest asked you.

“Do you believe in the Catholic Church, and all Her Teachings?”

You said yes. In this forum, you say no. Are you lying to yourself?
 
Where did you get this idea? Jesus himself gave Mary to John as his mother at the Crucifixion - all of Christ’s followers have the right to claim Mary as their own mother.
Nor am I, or anyone else here, the Apostle John. Again, this is an extension of a principle beyond what can be supported by Scripture or reason.
 
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Base on your replies, it seem to me that you are taking the thread as literalistically. Mary is not my physical mother. She did not breast fed me or nurture me. Mary is however my Mother because through the baptism, I have become a brother of Christ, adapted son of God, the Father.
 
I think you should read the Catechism of the Catholic Church because it teaches that Mary is Our Mother. I also read that you are a convert to Catholicism.

Did you not say yes when the priest asked you.

“Do you believe in the Catholic Church, and all Her Teachings?”

You said yes. In this forum, you say no. Are you lying to yourself?
Maybe she is simply not aware of that particular CCC section. That does not mean that she is lying. What section number is it? Tell us and we can all read it for ourselves.
 
Nor am I, or anyone else here, the Apostle John. Again, this is an extension of a principle beyond what can be supported by Scripture or reason.
But there IS Scripture to support the fact that we are brothers of Christ - ‘all who do the will of the Father are my mother, and my brother and my sister’ … and St Paul calls us ‘heirs of God, and co-heirs with Christ’.

If we are his brothers, by whatever means, then it follows that in some sense Mary is also our mother as well as his … brothers share a mother, or at least a step-mother, no??
 
Maybe she is simply not aware of that particular CCC section. That does not mean that she is lying. What section number is it? Tell us and we can all read it for ourselves.
963 Since the Virgin Mary’s role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. “The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the **birth of believers **in the Church, who are members of its head.” “Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church.”
 
970 “Mary’s function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin’s salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it.” “No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source.”
 
But there IS Scripture to support the fact that we are brothers of Christ - ‘all who do the will of the Father are my mother, and my brother and my sister’ … and St Paul calls us ‘heirs of God, and co-heirs with Christ’.

If we are his brothers, by whatever means, then it follows that in some sense Mary is also our mother as well as his … brothers share a mother, or at least a step-mother, no??
So, assuming we are doing the will of the Father, does this make us God’s mother, brother or sister? One of these? All of these? All at the same time? We have to look at Christ’s sayings in the context that he said them or we run a high risk of ending up with errant teaching. We are bending analogies here.
 
Nor am I, or anyone else here, the Apostle John.
Notice the phrasing of that passage. Mary is given as mother not to “the Apostle John” although certainly he is the primary one being addressed, but rather, it is addressed to “The beloved disciple.”

Mary is the mother of all the beloved disciples; not only John.

Also, the way this incident is recorded tells us that this is also for us. If if had been for John alone, then either it wouldn’t have been mentioned, being none of our business, or John would have made some statement that, “I John took Mary the mother of Jesus into my care at His request.”

Instead, though, he presents it right in the middle of the Seven Last Words of Christ - why include it there, if it was not meant for the whole Church?
 
963 Since the Virgin Mary’s role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. “The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the **birth of believers **in the Church, who are members of its head.” “Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church.”
Perhaps in some sort of figurative sense. George Washington is the father of his country. Thomas Jefferson is the father of the Declaration of Independence. James Madison is the father of our Constitution…
 
Is He not God? There is only one God - the Trinity three persons in one God - where ever Jesus is, there is God. “If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father.” The Trinity cannot be divided - God the Father and God the Holy Spirit were not off doing something else while Jesus was on earth - they remained with Him throughout everything that happened to Him.

No arguments here…

Mary was the very first Christian, since she was the very first to “accept Jesus into her heart” - and He came to her in a literal way, right into her womb, making her the Mother of God, and also the Mother of the Church, as well as a member of the Church, and as such, Bride, Mother, and Sister of Christ, all in one.
Whether she is the first or not is speculation although I’ll give you the benifit of doubt.

– Mary was preserved from all stain of original sin from the first instant of her conception. (“Catechism” 490-492). but

In Luke 1:46-47, Mary said: “My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour”. Mary knew that she needed a savior.

‑- Mary, “the All-Holy,” lived a perfectly sinless life. (“Catechism” 411, 493)

Romans 3:23 says “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. Revelation 15:4 says, “Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? For thou only art holy”. Romans 3:10 says, “There is none righteous, no, not one”.
** Jesus is the only person who is referred to in Scripture as sinless. Hebrews 4:15 says, “For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.” 2 Corinthians 5:21 says, “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” 1 Peter 2:22 says, “Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth”.**

**Book of Revelation- NO one was but Jesus **
worthy to break the seals and open the scroll, the only person who was found to be worthy was Jesus. Nobody else in Heaven or on earth (including Mary) was worthy to open the scroll or even look inside it. (Revelation 5:1-5)

Someone is is wrong here the BIBLE or CH I put my trust in the Bible, not what Tradition says.
 
So, assuming we are doing the will of the Father, does this make us God’s mother, brother or sister? One of these? All of these? All at the same time? We have to look at Christ’s sayings in the context that he said them or we run a high risk of ending up with errant teaching. We are bending analogies here.
Are you saying that Paul contradict Jesus Christ? I don’t think the Holy Spirit contradict the Truth. These writings concerning our relationship with Jesus Christ and his flock of believers conclude one message that we are part a Family.

How often do you read in Scripture refer to God as Father? Why do you think Jesus made a parable of the son who left with his father’s riches, and when he became broke, he return to his father, and his father gave him a feast.

Do you imply that God is not a loving Father, that Christian love is not consider brotherly love? There is no errant teachings here. You clearly do not understand the whole Scripture in its full context because you are making it difficult for you to understand that in Baptism, we are made adapted brothers and sisters in Christ.

We therefore call Jesus our brother. At the foot of the cross, Jesus said to the man. “Man, behold your mother.” Then he said to Mary. “Woman, behold your son.”

You think these passages and explanation are errant? So are you saying Jesus is in errant when told the man, behold your son?"
 
I’m thankful I’m able to discuss this with you all.

Happy Thankgiving and God Bless
 
Perhaps in some sort of figurative sense. George Washington is the father of his country. Thomas Jefferson is the father of the Declaration of Independence. James Madison is the father of our Constitution…
The CC means it figuratively and spiritually when it regards Mary as the Mother of all Christians.
 
Instead, though, he presents it right in the middle of the Seven Last Words of Christ - why include it there, if it was not meant for the whole Church?
John was known as the “beloved disciple” or the “disciple whom Jesus loved.” Christ presented Mary to John because Jesus loved his mother and wanted to be certain that she would be properly cared for. He gave her to John because, as the disciple whom he loved, Jesus trusted John. As God, Jesus also knew that he was right in trusting John, knowing John’s heart.
 
So are you saying Jesus is in errant when told the man, behold your son?"
Of course not, you know that is not what I said. And, as I said in other post, Jesus gave Mary to the APOSTLE JOHN. Jesus could have given Mary to the Church to take care of, he didn’t. He gave her to the Disciple He Loved…to John…because he knew John would take care of her.
 
Whether she is the first or not is speculation although I’ll give you the benifit of doubt.

– Mary was preserved from all stain of original sin from the first instant of her conception. (“Catechism” 490-492). but

In Luke 1:46-47, Mary said: “My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour”. Mary knew that she needed a savior.

‑- Mary, “the All-Holy,” lived a perfectly sinless life. (“Catechism” 411, 493)

Romans 3:23 says “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. Revelation 15:4 says, “Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? For thou only art holy”. Romans 3:10 says, “There is none righteous, no, not one”.
** Jesus is the only person who is referred to in Scripture as sinless. Hebrews 4:15 says, “For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.” 2 Corinthians 5:21 says, “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” 1 Peter 2:22 says, “Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth”.**
So infants and any child before the age of 8 have sin. How about the mentally handicap who knows little logic or reason to understand the concept of sin. Do you think they actually commited actual sin? The verse 'all have sin" does not always mean.

**Book of Revelation- NO one was but Jesus **
worthy to break the seals and open the scroll, the only person who was found to be worthy was Jesus. Nobody else in Heaven or on earth (including Mary) was worthy to open the scroll or even look inside it. (Revelation 5:1-5)

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Mary in the Book of Revelation already took her part as the woman clothed with the sun. Her task was to give birth to the Messiah. There is not Catholic Church that says that she is to open the scroll. But that is another discussion.

Please be advise to keep the subject Mother of God here. This thread is not about Mary’s being sinless. If you want to make that thread go ahead but not here. I think you are completely misunderstood Catholic Teaching regarding Mary.
 
John was known as the “beloved disciple” or the “disciple whom Jesus loved.” Christ presented Mary to John because Jesus loved his mother and wanted to be certain that she would be properly cared for. He gave her to John because, as the disciple whom he loved, Jesus trusted John. As God, Jesus also knew that he was right in trusting John, knowing John’s heart.
And he included this private family anecdote right in the middle of Christ’s final teachings to the Church because … ?
 
Of course not, you know that is not what I said. And, as I said in other post, Jesus gave Mary to the APOSTLE JOHN. Jesus could have given Mary to the Church to take care of, he didn’t. He gave her to the Disciple He Loved…to John…because he knew John would take care of her.
Then how do you justify Paul when he often call believers that we are brothers in Christ? Is he in error?
 
So, assuming we are doing the will of the Father, does this make us God’s mother, brother or sister? One of these? All of these? All at the same time? We have to look at Christ’s sayings in the context that he said them or we run a high risk of ending up with errant teaching. We are bending analogies here.
You’re quibbling here. The obvious correct interpretation is that we ARE his brothers and sisters. No confusion about which. Female sibling = sister, male sibling = brother. No confusion about the use of ‘mother’ either, since he only had one. It’s not possible for all of us to literally be so.

This isn’t analogy, it’s reality as borne out by St Paul.
 
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