As a non-Catholic Christian (Protestant) do your beliefs come down from Calvin or Martin Luther? Do you know?

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As a non-Catholic Christian (Protestant) do your beliefs come down from Calvin or Martin Luther?
Calvin – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can do it, then we can’t,”
Luther – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can’t do it, then we can,”
Or are you unsure, Calvin is also, OSAS Once Saved Always Saved. Predestination
 
to make this discussion meaningful you will have to provide accurate citations for your quotes, and demonstrate how they have been incorporated into the doctrinal statements of the various Protestant denominations

OSAS and predestination are two different doctrines, not held by all Protestants, although the arguments for both have some of the same starting poitns
 
Jimmy_B said:
As a non-Catholic Christian (Protestant) do your beliefs come down from Calvin or Martin Luther?
Calvin – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can do it, then we can’t,”
Luther – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can’t do it, then we can,”
Or are you unsure, Calvin is also, OSAS Once Saved Always Saved. Predestination
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as a Baptist our beliefs came from the Word of God that God give to us throught the Jewish writers
 
Only a very small part of Protestants are included in this question. There are plenty whose beliefs came from neither. 🤷
 
I do not really think that the characterization of differences between Luther and Calvin is particulairly accurate.

My own denomination would fall more into the Calvinist/Reformed category. However that does not mean that we completely follow his beliefs or teachings. I think that there was an overcompensation by some Reformation leaders to the problems they saw in the Catholic Church of their day. Since then there have been adjustments made.and teachings of others, such as Wesley. have been incorporated as it is recognized that neither Luther or Calvin was infallible. Little weight is given to things like double predestination or limited atonement and many, as myself do not completely accept unconditional election.
 
So what church did the writers of the Old Testament go to. Not the Catholic Church.
 
Righteousone said:
Yea, we forgot King Henry, Tyndale and Wyclif…👍
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Henry VIII was no friend of Protestantism - he was an equal opportunities persecutor, prepared to eviscerate Papists for the treason of adhering to Papal authority & burning Protestants for denying transubstantiation.​

Tyndale was a Lutheran - not the founder of any Protestant tradition or school.

As for Wycliff, he was not Protestant at all. It’s far less misleading to think of him as yet another Nominalist who was also a critic of the Avignon Papacy (of which there were plenty). Translating the Bible does not make one a Protestant - not even if one is a mediaeval. Nor does denying transubstantiation. Dislike in England of Rome’s pretensions or claims goes back at least to the 12th century - it did not start with Wycliff, still less with Henry VIII, & even less with Protestantism.

The only Protestant of the three is Tyndale.
 
I live from the word of God, and not by any other name, cause he is the ony one true God.
 
Gottle_of_Geer said:

Henry VIII was no friend of Protestantism - he was an equal opportunities persecutor, prepared to eviscerate Papists for the treason of adhering to Papal authority & burning Protestants for denying transubstantiation.​

Tyndale was a Lutheran - not the founder of any Protestant tradition or school.

As for Wycliff, he was not Protestant at all. It’s far less misleading to think of him as yet another Nominalist who was also a critic of the Avignon Papacy (of which there were plenty). Translating the Bible does not make one a Protestant - not even if one is a mediaeval. Nor does denying transubstantiation. Dislike in England of Rome’s pretensions or claims goes back at least to the 12th century - it did not start with Wycliff, still less with Henry VIII, & even less with Protestantism.

The only Protestant of the three is Tyndale.
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Wyclif and Tyndale gave false arroneous and anti-Catholic versions of Holy Scripturs. It was full of Lutheran heresies. Tyndale had fallen under Luther, who by this time had revolted from Rome.
Luther’s notes and explanations of texts, were full of venom and hatred against Rome.
It is a fact that all early Protestant versions of the bible literally swarmed with gross and flagrant corruptions—corruptions consisting in the willful and deliberate mistranslation of various passages of the Sacred text, and all aimed against those doctrines and practices of the Catholic church which the “reformers” were most anxious to uproot.
They were ALL Protestant.
 
Jimmy_B said:
As a non-Catholic Christian (Protestant) do your beliefs come down from Calvin or Martin Luther?
Calvin – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can do it, then we can’t,”
Luther – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can’t do it, then we can,”
Or are you unsure, Calvin is also, OSAS Once Saved Always Saved. Predestination
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I feel much closer from Konrad Grebel or Felix Mantz or Menno Simmons:extrahappy:
 
Jimmy_B said:
As a non-Catholic Christian (Protestant) do your beliefs come down from Calvin or Martin Luther?
Calvin – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can do it, then we can’t,”
Luther – “If the bible doesn’t say the we can’t do it, then we can,”
Or are you unsure, Calvin is also, OSAS Once Saved Always Saved. Predestination
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Neither. As a Methodist, our beliefs came down from the Church of England, which came from neither Luther nor Calvin.
 
Righteousone said:
King Henry then…😃
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More likely, Queen Elizabeth I, John Knox (originally the Scots’ Confession was intended for the Anglican Church, and for a while was accepted), Cramner (who created a new statement of beliefs that superceded the Scots’ Confession), and so on.
 
as a Baptist our beliefs came from the Word of God that God give to us throught the Jewish writers

Except for:
  1. Church structure–congregational as opposed to the Biblical episcopal/hierarchial model.
  2. Baptism–merely an act of obedience instead of the actual rebirth as the Bible teaches.
  3. The Lord’s Supper–mere mental memorial as opposed to the Real Presence taught in Scripture.
  4. Individual scriptural interpretaion (though woe betide you if your intepretation differs from those around you) instead of the authoritative magisterium seen in the Bible.
In other words–NOTHING that makes you Baptist is actually in the Bible. They are all traditions and precepts of men.
 
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