As a non-Catholic, do you pray to God for the forgiveness of your sins?

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So, if I may ask, do you feel you are sinning by not attending mass since you are still Catholic?
Oh yes, that would be grave matter (mortal sin) because that would be disobedient to God’s word. I attend mass weekly. I take communion in the Catholic church but have not taken it at the Evangelical Church. I go regularly to confession (on average, once a month). Sometimes I feel that I had sinned by not going to mass daily, such as the failure to complete a novena or the lack of commitment to do one.

That said, I don’t feel my wife is sinning when she doesn’t attend mass because she’s Protestant and a faithful Evangelical Protestant at that. She grew up in the Methodist church.
 
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I see what you are asking now. You are saying that asking God for forgiveness or going to confession is part of the faith life of a Christian. I guess I was specifically trying to figure out why some people bother to ask for forgiveness of sins when they also believe Jesus died for our sins and no matter what they will go to heaven.

Someone pointed out it is similar to OSAS, which is a message I heard as a kid. I was also reminded to ask for forgiveness of sins before receiving bread and grape juice or any time I felt I sinned.

Also, you said some Lutherans have confession. Are they Missouri Synod or ELCA?
 
Psalms 32:5 Then I declared my sin to you; my guilt I did not hide. I said, “I confess my transgression to the Lord" and you took away the guilt of my sin.

In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we’re taught that all sins need to be confessed to God in prayer. Major sins also need to be confessed to the appropriate ecclesiastical authority. Restitution, where possible, needs to occur in order for the sinner to receive forgiveness. I hope this helps…
 
Evangelical and Catholic Church attendance? That has to be about six hours you spend per week between the two with Bible studies, etc.!
 
That’s interesting. Who is the appropriate ecclesiastical authority?
 
Thanks for your answer. It’s always good to hear different beliefs. I’m wondering, though, you said,
So when I pray, I do ask for guidance, direction, and desire to reach positive potential. I ask for help so I don’t repeat my failures.
To whom are you praying if you do not believe in a higher power or God?
 
how do you justify doing that if you also believe Jesus died for all of your sins past, present, and future, and you have already been redeemed in full?
How one justifies prayer in general is an interesting question. God is all knowing and all loving and perfectly merciful. There’s a lot of questions of this sort that can challenge both Catholics and Protestants.

How can you justify praying for something more than once, don’t you think God heard you the first time? Does our asking for something change God’s mind? Why does God miraculously heal some and let others with just as much faith die?

The answer to these questions is “who knows but God said so, so I do it”. That’s what an educated protestant would say to your question.

Again, I was absolutely not raised with this belief at all in the church I was in before I converted. I really only think it’s common for Christian denominations who are Calvanist. It’s really a shame these church are quite likely damning millions of people with these heresies.
 
This is a scriptural practice, as Christ provides the power to bind and loose to the Church.
Yes, but a Lutheran minister cannot choose to forgive or retain sins he has heard in confession. He cannot speak the words of absolution. Binding and loosing is not the same as forgive or retain. Agreed?
 
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The Protestants I know personally and those I’ve conversed with online all scoff because we Catholics confess our sins to our priests who are acting in persona Christi.
I don’t want to miscategorize luthern beliefs (which is difficult when Lutherans themselves are such a divided group) so please correct me if I’m wrong. Lutherns do not believe that confession is the only ordinary means of absolution. I.e. Lutherns would say that you can be sure of your absolution by saying some of the mass prayers. Is this a fair statement?

If so you can’t and shouldn’t pretend to have a Catholic understanding of confession.
 
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That’s interesting. Who is the appropriate ecclesiastical authority?
It’s usually the leader of the organization to which one belongs. The standard congregation is known as a ward and is lead by a bishop. A small congregation is known as a branch and is lead by a president. A missionary would need to seek out his or her mission president.
 
Thanks for answering. What church were you in before converting?
 
Evangelical and Catholic Church attendance? That has to be about six hours you spend per week between the two with Bible studies, etc.!
Yes. The typical week is 5-7 hours, including small groups or Bible studies or 2 hours 45 minutes when I don’t participate. My wife is a greet leader at her church and I am a lector. I also help out with greeting when I am not lectoring. Our churches also mean we have a round-trip time of 1 hour 45 minutes.

It’s definitely a balancing act. Sometimes I don’t make it to Bible study or small group. Usually I miss the bible study when I sleep in on Saturday or miss the small group when I just want to spend more time with my wife or hang out with the friends instead. I do miss it when I choose to or am unable to go. That said, I am wondering whether to switch Catholic Bible studies since I have three to choose from in my area.

For me, it’s not much of a sacrifice. I feel it is my responsibility to make sure that my family lives a Christian life (hopefully a Catholic Christian life). I felt it was my dual responsibility to walk with my wife in her faith.
 
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Well to be particular, the Foursquare Church. If that doesn’t make sense, Assembly of God. If that doesn’t make sense, pentacostal, but not nondenominational.
 
As a non-Catholic, do you pray to God for the forgiveness of your sins?
Yes. As a Pentecostal, I was taught to confess my sins and ask God for forgiveness.
If so, how do you justify doing that if you also believe Jesus died for all of your sins past, present, and future, and you have already been redeemed in full?
Redemption is different from salvation. Redemption is universal; salvation is applicable to those who believe. Our past sins have been forgiven, but we still struggle and must work out our salvation. We still sin in the present and the future. We still need to confess.

The reason is that salvation is not just us getting out of hell. It is us being changed and transformed into the image of Christ. For that to happen, we have to die, as Christ died and rose again. We must die to self and to sin. We do this through repentance, denying the flesh and pursuing holiness of life through the power of the Holy Spirit. Part of repenting (turning from sin) is acknowledging our sin and asking God for forgiveness.
 
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God bless you for your dedication to your family! Definitely switch to the Catholic Bible study.
 
Definitely switch to the Catholic Bible study.
Agreed. I need to decide between 3 different male Catholic bible studies available at 730AM. There is also a co-ed group at 8AM that are about books by religious authors. Thanks so much!
 
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I see what you are asking now. You are saying that asking God for forgiveness or going to confession is part of the faith life of a Christian. I guess I was specifically trying to figure out why some people bother to ask for forgiveness of sins when they also believe Jesus died for our sins and no matter what they will go to heaven.

Someone pointed out it is similar to OSAS, which is a message I heard as a kid. I was also reminded to ask for forgiveness of sins before receiving bread and grape juice or any time I felt I sinned.

Also, you said some Lutherans have confession. Are they Missouri Synod or ELCA?
Any Lutheran who adheres to the Augsburg Confession and the Small Catechism, which is essentially the definition of the Lutheran tradition of the Church.
 
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This is a scriptural practice, as Christ provides the power to bind and loose to the Church.
Yes, but a Lutheran minister cannot choose to forgive or retain sins he has heard in confession. He cannot speak the words of absolution. Binding and loosing is not the same as forgive or retain. Agreed?
Acting in persona Christi, the Pastor declares holy Absolution, the forgiveness of sin.
 
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