As a Potential victim of abortion, why I didn't vote for Obama

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by Gregory Kane lifenews.com/nat4699.html
January 5, 2009
http://www.lifenews.com/opincol2.jpgLifeNews.com Note: Gregory Kane is a columnist for the Baltimore Sun and this article originally appeared in the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle newspaper.

http://www.lifenews.com/baraobam8.jpg I’ll turn 57 today. . What does that have to do with why I didn’t vote for President-elect Barack Obama on Nov. 4, 2008? That requires a little back-story.
Sometime between late March and early May of 1951 a 28-year-old black woman in Baltimore, Md. realized she was pregnant. She already had two infant daughters — one 32 months and the other not even a year old — and knew that her salary working in a sub-minimum wage job at a laundry would make feeding and rearing a third child difficult. She made arrangements with a woman she knew for what was then called a "back-alley abortion

Very interesting read. I hope you will read the whole article from the link above.
 
I completely agree with this. I am also from Baltimore. I was born there in 1941. My Mother had such severe heart problems (from birth) that she was cautioned never to get pregnant. Her first child died shortly after birth and her doctor said it was a warning. If she got pregnant again then both she and the child would die. Well, she got pregnant and her doctor wanted to do away with the problem (me) but she refused. She often told me that she felt that if God saw fit to give her a child, then He would see fit to enable her to raise that child. I was in my late 20’s when my Mom passed away. There is no way I could ever vote for a pro-choice (actually pro-death) candidate so I did not vote for our president-elect.
 
That’s an amazing testimony. Your mother sounds like an incredibly unselfish person. You are blessed. I say that in the present…because your mom not only was, she still is by the grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior.
 
As a Potential victim of abortion
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Huh? :confused:
I guess I’m a potential victim of… EVERYTHING.
She made arrangements with a woman she knew for what was then called a “back-alley abortion.”
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The article makes no sense. He is complaining about abortion, when back-alley abortion are done ILLEGALY; furthermore, during those times abortions in the US were illegal & punished by law (if I’m not mistaken about the time periods)! Result? Many women & children died to unsafe, back-alley “services”.
 
Well, if he was aborted, he would not be here to say anything about it.

But since I am not aborted, I see a world full of poverty and suffering, but I am fortunate that I am not poor. I do not see anything intrinsicially good about being born especially since there is a significant chance that your life would be turned into total garbage because of poverty.
 
Well, if he was aborted, he would not be here to say anything about it.
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I understood what he meant; & I still say I’m a potential victim to everything! That shows nothing, but sure gets the emotional “point” & drama across.
ribozyme said:
But since I am not aborted, I see a world full of poverty and suffering, but I am fortunate that I am not poor. I do not see anything intrinsicially good about being born especially since there is a significant chance that your life would be turned into total garbage because of poverty.
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& that is your judgement; while others even though living in poverty might still be glad they exist & get to experience things.
 
Robertsxxx said:
The article makes no sense. He is complaining about abortion, when back-alley abortion are done ILLEGALY; furthermore, during those times abortions in the US were illegal & punished by law (if I’m not mistaken about the time periods)! Result? Many women & children died to unsafe, back-alley “services”.
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Did you read it? It’s not an article, it’s on the opinion page. And it does make sense. His entire point is summed up in him saying this:
And we know that on Jan. 23, 1973, tomcatting men across the land rejoiced because seven justices had handed them a “knock-her-up-and-get-out-of-the-consequences” card.
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The abortion debate is about more than a “right to choose” or a “right to privacy.” It’s about consequences, responsibility and a right to life.
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Have you ever researched the death toll from back-alley abortions? People seem to think it was a major cause of death, but it wasn’t. It’s hard to quote any statistics, because people counter with “well, that’s a biased site.” So google back-alley abortion death rate and you can research it. You’ll see that women weren’t dying due to the abortion itself, they were dying from a lack of medical care. Women still die today

And fyi… children are STILL dying from SAFE, LEGAL abortions :mad: MILLIONS of them every single year.
 
Texas_Roofer said:
So Obama born in August 4, 1961 is responsible for the near abortions of 1957, and 1941, wow! !

Btw - prochoice.org/about_abortion/history_abortion.html#legal
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I don’t think anyone said that Obama was responsible for abortions, only that he is pro-choice. He wants to remove all pro-life laws. President-elect Obama seems to be a very nice person, a hard worker, good husband and father and good moral character. The only problem I have with him is the fact that he wants to do away with any and all pro-life issues.
 
pigtown said:
I don’t think anyone said that Obama was responsible for abortions, only that he is pro-choice. He wants to remove all pro-life laws. President-elect Obama seems to be a very nice person, a hard worker, good husband and father and good moral character. The only problem I have with him is the fact that he wants to do away with any and all pro-life issues.
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The only problem is that he has no problem with continuing one million abortion deaths per year and wishes to remove any restrictions against it.
 
JimG said:
The only problem is that he has no problem with continuing one million abortion deaths per year and wishes to remove any restrictions against it.
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Yes, and that is a HUGE problem. Mary was single, a teen-ager and pregnant. Guess it’s a good thing God didn’t decide to send His Son today.
 
JimG said:
The only problem is that he has no problem with continuing one million abortion deaths per year and wishes to remove any restrictions against it.
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Did he say that? It seems contradictory to what I heard. Who is Obama killing or how many is he killing?
 
Robertsxxx said:
Huh? :confused:
I guess I’m a potential victim of… EVERYTHING.

The article makes no sense. He is complaining about abortion, when back-alley abortion are done ILLEGALY; furthermore, during those times abortions in the US were illegal & punished by law (if I’m not mistaken about the time periods)! Result? **Many women & children died **to unsafe, back-alley “services”.
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I gotta ask: why do you include “& children” when the intent was for the children to die anyway? The real objection, as I’ve been given to understand, is that women also died when they underwent these “back-alley” abortions. For the unborn children to die was the whole purpose of the procedure, was it not?

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flatlanderjenn said:
Go to www.secondlookproject.org and click on “fetal development”, then visit www.abort73.com and click on “facts about abortion”.

By passing the Freedom of Choice Act, Obama will endorse the killing of millions of human beings, and disguises the murder as a “choice”.
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Neither website indicates Obama will ever kill a single person. -Does it bother you at all to blame him for things he has nothing to do with?
 
mdr said:
I gotta ask: why do you include “& children” when the intent was for the children to die anyway? The real objection, as I’ve been given to understand, is that women also died when they underwent these “back-alley” abortions. For the unborn children to die was the whole purpose of the procedure, was it not?

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Robertxxx statement is correct, woman and children died more children than woman but both were victims.
 
Texas_Roofer said:
Neither website indicates Obama will ever kill a single person. -Does it bother you at all to blame him for things he has nothing to do with?
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People are blaming him because of his track record in the Senate in Illinois and because he said that his first order of business is to reverse the partial birth abortion ban. He’s completely against the Born-Alive Act which will allow doctors to leave abortion survivors to die without basic care if he reverses it.

His stance on abortion is akin to infanticide and as President, he will sign laws that will make him spiritually culpable for the deaths of babies that wouldn’t have otherwise been killed due to current abortion & infanticide restrictions.
 
Texas_Roofer said:
Neither website indicates Obama will ever kill a single person. -Does it bother you at all to blame him for things he has nothing to do with?
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Both websites prove that unborn children are human beings that are murdered by abortion. I offered them just in case you didn’t realize the offspring between two humans is a human.

You also failed to understand my second sentence. Perhaps that is my fault for not explaining, but Missy68 did a very good job elaborating how Obama will be responsible for the muder of more human beings once he passes FOCA.

To help you understand further, although he himself will not be removing the preborn children from their mother’s wombs, he is the Accessory Before the Fact because he will pass the FOCA wilth full knowledge and consent that the number of unborn children killed will be increased. In the legal system, an Accessory Before the Fact is just as responsible as the actual murderer, and tried just the same.

This hits a more personal note for some because Obama not only would have approved of his or her murder, but would have been the Accessory Before the Fact of his or her murder if he had been president and passed the Freedom of Choice Act at the time of his or her gestation. Perhaps the reason for the mother to choose life was not because she valued life, but because she was scared to do something illegal. It’s sad…almost like listening to a false god instead of the real God.
 
Missy68 said:
People are blaming him because of his track record in the Senate in Illinois and because he said that his first order of business is to reverse the partial birth abortion ban. He’s completely against the Born-Alive Act which will allow doctors to leave abortion survivors to die without basic care if he reverses it.

His stance on abortion is akin to infanticide and as President, he will sign laws that will make him** spiritually culpable **for the deaths of babies that wouldn’t have otherwise been killed due to current abortion & infanticide restrictions.
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And there you go, you blame him (and misunderstand him). He has killed no one and will probably never kill anyone. Yet you blame him which is a backward license to all others as he is responsible not them.
 
The only person I’m blaming for aborition is satan.

I will pray for those contemplating it. I will pray for God’s mercy on those that have had one, and those that perform abortions.

Barack isn’t anymore responsible for someones abortion than we are.

That being said, he’s been given the ability as a public servant to speak out against it and to try to make a difference. Sitting back and doing nothing, or making and approving laws that are in support of allowing abortions to happen isn’t right. God calls him to pray for the victims and to work toward stopping the killing of innocent life. Yet he pushes on toward a country that has the license of choice.

There is a difference between freedom and license. We have the freedom choose where we want to work, where we want to get our gas, what we want to do in our free time. Then, with the help of pro-choice legislation we gain license. License to choose the value of life, to choose ourselves over others. This is dangerous ground, and a very cleaver misconception by the devil.
 
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