As a Prostestant

[Bill_Pick]

Do you make the sign of the croos went entering another church. Have you stop to say the station of the croos at a prostestant church if not why. If you have not its very reward to do so,have you ever seen the station of the croos

 

[JonNC]

Do you make the sign of the croos went entering another church. Have you stop to say the station of the croos at a prostestant church if not why. If you have not its very reward to do so,have you ever seen the station of the croos

Bill,
Lutherans generally consider crossing oneself as personal piety. I cross myself at numerous times during the divine service. Invocation, pronouncement of Absolution, announcement of the Gospel, during the Eucharist, and the benediction. And perhaps at other times when I am so moved.

Jon

EDIT: Sorry, Bill, I misread the question. **Another **Church: my practice on making the sign of the cross would be the same, assuming it is a trinitarian Church. IOW, when I have gone to a Catholic Mass, my practcies vary little (except I don’t go up for the Eucharist).

Jon

 

[rev_kevin]

Do you make the sign of the croos went entering another church. Have you stop to say the station of the croos at a prostestant church if not why. If you have not its very reward to do so,have you ever seen the station of the croos

Bill, I have seen and participated in the stations of the cross and it is beautiful. But I never have understood what it is for, why they do it.We don’t do the stations of the cross. As far as the sign of the cross when I enter another church the answer is no, its not part of my religion anymore to make the sign of the cross. Now when I was still a Catholic, but not a practicing one, everytime I would respond to a fire, I’m a retired firefighter, I would always make the sign of the cross while getting my SCBA on and while in route to the fire. While making the sign of the cross I also asked God to forgive my sins and asked him to be with us.

 

[AmericanJosiah]

Do you make the sign of the croos went entering another church. Have you stop to say the station of the croos at a prostestant church if not why. If you have not its very reward to do so,have you ever seen the station of the croos

When I worship with OTHERS, I try to observe their customs - as long as that seems appropriate and courteous. I still worship at Catholic churches sometimes, and while I don’t participate in the Eucharist, I resume my old ways quite naturally. A couple of years ago, I was in Spain this time of year, visiting my best (guy, lol) friend who is very Catholic. We attended Mass often; it felt good. I’m not one to “rock the boat” or insist on MY feelings, customs, stuff. When I’m a GUEST in the home of another, I’m super-sensitive to being respectful. My mom told me that if a host puts liver in front of me for dinner, eat it - and find something on the plate to affirm, and thank the cook for all of it. I try to do that. Now, if something is meant for family members and not guests (like the Eucharist), I honor that and take no offense.

In my Lutheran congregation, probably half ( or a bit more) do the Sign of the Cross (by the way - variously! Some do it the Catholic way - from right to left, some the Orthodox way, from left to right, I now do the left to right way). It’s typically done at the invocation, whenever the Trinity is proclaimed and at the departure from the Eucharist. Some do it at the end of the Creed, but not most. We do a Psalm, too, and we do it at the end of that, too.

In my personal prayers, I always begin with the invocation and with the Sign. The pastor, however, begins prayers with “Our Heavenly Father” so it doesn’t “fit.”

All this is “adiaphora” in Lutheranism. There is no rule, either way. The liturgy has a big red cross where it’s appropriate/traditional - but again, it’s not a rule. In my congregation, some do, some don’t, no one gives it any divisive importance. It’s mostly us former Catholics that do, mostly the evangelical converts that don’t. No one cares.

Pax

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[Bill_Pick]

Bill, I have seen and participated in the stations of the cross and it is beautiful. But I never have understood what it is for, why they do it.We don’t do the stations of the cross. As far as the sign of the cross when I enter another church the answer is no, its not part of my religion anymore to make the sign of the cross. Now when I was still a Catholic, but not a practicing one, everytime I would respond to a fire, I’m a retired firefighter, I would always make the sign of the cross while getting my SCBA on and while in route to the fire. While making the sign of the cross I also asked God to forgive my sins and asked him to be with us.

rev, Not being rude but I never take part in the station of the croos , only on Holy week, to me it like the Passion all over again. and gets me next to my faith

 

[Nine_Two]

When I was a Protestant I never did the sign of the cross. I thought it was some worthless superstition at the time.

 

[rev_kevin]

rev, Not being rude but I never take part in the station of the croos , only on Holy week, to me it like the Passion all over again. and gets me next to my faith

Bil, your not being rude I was just wondering why they do the station of the cross. If it gets you next to your faith thats wonderful.

 

[Bill_Pick]

When I was a Protestant I never did the sign of the cross. I thought it was some worthless superstition at the time.

Do you understand it now, are do you think its a worthless superstition.
Not know what faith you belong to

 

[Nine_Two]

Do you understand it now, are do you think its a worthless superstition.
Not know what faith you belong to

I’m Orthodox, I understand it quite well.

 

[Bill_Pick]

Bil, your not being rude I was just wondering why they do the station of the cross. If it gets you next to your faith thats wonderful.

Well for me its like I,m right here with my Lord,going step by step, and at time during lent a tear come to by face. I try to go to Church all the fridays of the week,and confession.
HOLY week is the best time of the year for me,I alway try to watch the movie The Passion Of Chist…Thas just me

 

[Bill_Pick]

Bil, your not being rude I was just wondering why they do the station of the cross. If it gets you next to your faith thats wonderful.

Well I enjoy the stations of the croos its like I,m walking with my Lord take a step by step at each station it so real to me

I aso like coming to cofession each friday of Holy week…during Holy week

 

[rev_kevin]

Well for me its like I,m right here with my Lord,going step by step, and at time during lent a tear come to by face. I try to go to Church all the fridays of the week,and confession.
HOLY week is the best time of the year for me,I alway try to watch the movie The Passion Of Chist…Thas just me

Bill, like I said that is wonderful that you feel that way about it and I can see what you mean. I quess it means different things to different people and the celebrate it for what it means to them and how it effects their lives on a personal basses.
Like I said it is a beautiful thing to see and participate in and I would love to see it again but the only Catholic church in my town is a Spanish speeking one and all other Catholic churchs are too far to go to.

 

[Bill_Pick]

Bill, like I said that is wonderful that you feel that way about it and I can see what you mean. I quess it means different things to different people and the celebrate it for what it means to them and how it effects their lives on a personal basses.
Like I said it is a beautiful thing to see and participate in and I would love to see it again but the only Catholic church in my town is a Spanish speeking one and all other Catholic churchs are too far to go to.

Well at my Church we have the Spanish mass at ! o clock and the other at 6,( 9 and 11,so we have 4 mass a Sunday

 

[rick43235]

Lutherans generally consider crossing oneself as personal piety. I cross myself at numerous times during the divine service. Invocation, pronouncement of Absolution, announcement of the Gospel, during the Eucharist, and the benediction. And perhaps at other times when I am so moved.

This is interesting. What “flavor” of Lutheran are you? I grew up in what was, at the time, the American Lutheran Church. (I assume that organization is now part of the ELCA.) Never once did I ever see anyone cross them self in church. I now attend weekly mass with my Catholic wife. When I was taking RCIA, I started crossing myself, but it just didn’t feel “natural” to me, so I stopped.

 

[rev_kevin]

Well at my Church we have the Spanish mass at ! o clock and the other at 6,( 9 and 11,so we have 4 mass a Sunday

The Catholic church here is only in Spanish since the side of town its in is all Hispanic or lets say the are here without documents. So the cater to them because they are Catholic and most of the town is of a different religion. Now about 15 years ago it was in both English and Spanish but it slowly went to only Spanish speaking services.

 

[Anna_Scott]

Do you make the sign of the croos went entering another church. Have you stop to say the station of the croos at a prostestant church if not why. If you have not its very reward to do so,have you ever seen the station of the croos

Hi Bill Pick,

As a Protestant, I do not make the sign of the cross in any church. It’s not that I find it objectionable in any way. I was just never taught to do this.

I actually don’t know the full meaning behind making the sign of the cross, and the stations of the cross. Would you explain?

Anna

 

[JonNC]

This is interesting. What “flavor” of Lutheran are you? I grew up in what was, at the time, the American Lutheran Church. (I assume that organization is now part of the ELCA.) Never once did I ever see anyone cross them self in church. I now attend weekly mass with my Catholic wife. When I was taking RCIA, I started crossing myself, but it just didn’t feel “natural” to me, so I stopped.

I am now, for almost a decade, LCMS, but I was raised LCA and ELca for most of my life (in my mid-fifties). And you are correct that, in my youth one didn’t see many Lutherans cross themselves. For me, it is a practice I began in my thirties.

Jon

 

[AmericanJosiah]

I am now, for almost a decade, LCMS, but I was raised LCA and ELca for most of my life (in my mid-fifties). And you are correct that, in my youth one didn’t see many Lutherans cross themselves. For me, it is a practice I began in my thirties.

Jon

I’m also LCMS. I Cross myself several times during the Mass - now that I think about! About half of the people in my congregation do - about half not (I really haven’t paid much attention - I will tomorrow!). Curiously, they just don’t always do the same way (THAT I have noticed).

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[Bill_Pick]

Hi Bill Pick,

As a Protestant, I do not make the sign of the cross in any church. It’s not that I find it objectionable in any way. I was just never taught to do this.

I actually don’t know the full meaning behind making the sign of the cross, and the stations of the cross. Would you explain?

Anna

Annal The sign is to tell us about the trinty.Father,Son and Holy
Because by Thy holy cross Thou hast redeemed the world.
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O Jesus! I thank Thee for all Thou hast suffered in order to redeem me; and I beseech Thee, grant that I may prepare myself to receive worthily, in holy Communion, the body which Thou hast given for me. Take up Thy abode forever in my soul.
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r…

Jesus Christ Crucified, have mercy on us!
we have 14 station all lead to the death of Our lord,step by step we are walking with Our Lord to His death

 

[Anna_Scott]

Annal The sign is to tell us about the trinty.Father,Son and Holy

Because by Thy holy cross Thou hast redeemed the world.

O Jesus! I thank Thee for all Thou hast suffered in order to redeem me; and I beseech Thee, grant that I may prepare myself to receive worthily, in holy Communion, the body which Thou hast given for me. Take up Thy abode forever in my soul…

r…

Jesus Christ Crucified, have mercy on us!
we have 14 station all lead to the death of Our lord,step by step we are walking with Our Lord to His death

Bill,

Thank you. I knew about the Trinity aspect of making the sign of the cross. I did not know about the prayers and the stations of the cross.

I appreciate the explanation.

Anna