Asa, question for you

[catsrus]

originally posted by Paul Barlow
if in doubt pray and ask somebody you may listern to.

This is your answer??! Only this?!!
As to listening, I was trying to listen to you who showed me Gen.4: 5-7 and the pearl book Moses scripture. I looked them up as you suggested. Now you refuse to explain your position?
I now deduce that you are unable or, at least, unwilling to explain anything at all about Cain making a deal with the devil, blacks = Cannanites, why the priesthood was denied to anyone not white skinned before 1970 or why that ban was lifted after 1970.
Please do not post any doctrine by lds that you cannot explain to us.

 

[Jerusha]

who supported the indians when the US government were murdering them.

LDS supported only the Indian converts to LDS. Conversion to LDS became the way to escape from racism.uofupress.com/store/product241.html
users.qwest.net/~philbg/ Is an example. Curious that BY gave Antonguer the name Black Hawk.

the priesthood for black members and in a deep and loving moment the lord revealed this doctrine. and when those bigoted members heard this declaration they shouted for joy. ask our coloured members if they are a subgigated by us racists.

I do not challenge this. What about the treatment of non-Mormon people of color?

This is why some are demanding an official apology, despite the inherent lack of sincerity or even viability (or ‘power’) that such an apology necessarily possesses.

Clearly a problem. Too deeply intertwined in the culture and doctrines to really have an effect.

 

[paul_barlow]

Jerusha:

LDS supported only the Indian converts to LDS. Conversion to LDS became the way to escape from racism.uofupress.com/store/product241.html
users.qwest.net/~philbg/ Is an example. Curious that BY gave Antonguer the name Black Hawk.

I do not challenge this. What about the treatment of non-Mormon people of color?

Clearly a problem. Too deeply intertwined in the culture and doctrines to really have an effect.

we were talking about the priesthood none members don’t have it.
your last quote was not from me. was this a mistake.

 

[paul_barlow]

catsrus:

This is your answer??! Only this?!!
As to listening, I was trying to listen to you who showed me Gen.4: 5-7 and the pearl book Moses scripture. I looked them up as you suggested. Now you refuse to explain your position?
I now deduce that you are unable or, at least, unwilling to explain anything at all about Cain making a deal with the devil, blacks = Cannanites, why the priesthood was denied to anyone not white skinned before 1970 or why that ban was lifted after 1970.
Please do not post any doctrine by lds that you cannot explain to us.

that must go both ways you should not post your doctrine if you can not explain it.
what only prayer. is there anything more important than prayer. it’s our way to communicate with our lord. and i will be explaining it. but unlike you i take a long time to study things due to my dyslexia. but in the mean time read what i have said it will save me repeating myself 100s of times

 

[catsrus]

that must go both ways you should not post your doctrine if you can not explain it.

Haven’t posted any Doctrine. Be glad to explain. Which Doctrine are you interested in?

but in the mean time read what i have said it will save me repeating myself 100s of times

I have carefully read your posts.
I’m not asking you to repeat yourself, only to explain.

 

[paul_barlow]

catsrus:

Haven’t posted any Doctrine. Be glad to explain. Which Doctrine are you interested in?

I have carefully read your posts.
I’m not asking you to repeat yourself, only to explain.

then i will atempt to. but please give me a few days to answer you.

 

[Asa_Ben_Judah]

Jerusha:

I found this yesterday. I find the last sentence to be extremely offensive, but what is your reaction?

jewsforjudaism.org/web/Mormons/convertajew.html

Hi Jerusha,

If you read the Title page of the Book of Mormon LDS are required to preach to all kindreds tongues and people. and bring the Jews into the New and Everlasting Covenant. The message of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ is a universal (catholic) message for the establishment of the Final Dispensation.

I canot see how any Son of Abraham or Roman Catholic could possibly be offended at the message of the LDS Missionaries unless they know it is true and a threat. If it isn’t true then what is the problem?

May the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Bless you.

Asa

 

[Asa_Ben_Judah]

I have read some of the posts in this thread and I must admit that there is a great deal of misinformation and error here. I shall not return to this thread and have answered Jerusha’s question.

Before leaving I would say that the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is a truly multi-national phenomenon with a very large percentage of its members who are Black. Perhaps your questions on racism in the church should be taken to these faithful brothers and sisters.

Asa

 

[majick275]

Asa Ben Judah:

Hi Jerusha,

If you read the Title page of the Book of Mormon LDS are required to preach to all kindreds tongues and people. and bring the Jews into the New and Everlasting Covenant. The message of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ is a universal (catholic) message for the establishment of the Final Dispensation.

I canot see how any Son of Abraham or Roman Catholic could possibly be offended at the message of the LDS Missionaries unless they know it is true and a threat. If it isn’t true then what is the problem?

May the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Bless you.

Asa

I have to disagree with this. “If it isn’t true” then that IS the problem. We can’t just sit back and let people be deceived. Preaching the true Gospel is REQUIRED by God. Read 2 Tim chap.3 this exactly why it is a threat because it’s NOT true.

 

[majick275]

Asa Ben Judah:

I have read some of the posts in this thread and I must admit that there is a great deal of misinformation and error here. I shall not return to this thread and have answered Jerusha’s question.

Before leaving I would say that the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is a truly multi-national phenomenon with a very large percentage of its members who are Black. Perhaps your questions on racism in the church should be taken to these faithful brothers and sisters.

Asa

I would challenge this. What available demographics are there that support this? It is my understanding that the largest single demographic for LDS is white American. Does anyone have a recent verifiable census equivalent?

 

[Tmaque]

majick275:

I would challenge this. What available demographics are there that support this? It is my understanding that the largest single demographic for LDS is white American. Does anyone have a recent verifiable census equivalent?

The top 10 nations with largest number of LDS in their populations are:
US
Mexico
Brazil
Chile
Philippines
Peru
Argentina
UK
Guatemala
Canada

Based on this I would have to agree with you, and say the statement that “the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is a truly multi-national phenomenon with a very large percentage of its members who are Black” is simply not correct.