…have you ever watched sci flics/shows where they portray creatures existing in a parallel reality but just outside of our time and space?
…and we even have a passage that points to the Spiritual being revealed and existing within the temporal or is it that the temporal is morphed?:
…so… Heaven is a place… but no, no spaceship can get us there… good thing too because the multi-millionaires could well cause Heaven to become “organic” and out-price most, if not all, of the lower classes! :winter:
Good ideas, I agree with that thought. Angels are made to be able to interchange dimensions while we are made to only see and live in this dimension. We can’t see angels because we can only see within our own dimension. But angels can make themselves visible to us if they want to, they can interchange dimensions.it’s a real place, many examples and witnesses to the rise of Jesus into heaven. Can you get to heaven on a spaceship…no. like earth, i come to think heaven has its own rules, one your soul is not your body, the only person to go to heaven with a body is jesus and mary,
but anyone who has gone to the door of heaven has died. Maybe god created heaven in a phased universe, as ensitin predicted, our rules and physical properties can’t cross over.
god created earth and the universe, I do know that we can’t go to heaven in our form, at least not a normal person. we can’t see angels but angels are all around us, is this because we can’t see them because they are not on our plain who knows, that is the great mystery of death and you must accept that we won’t know until one day we pass over.
from what i can tell, the other side sees all that goes on here, angels can interact with us (maybe because god created special rules for them) and that our soul is a energy but still us when we cross over, we know who we are, but dont have the same feelings eg no pain, no sorrow.
i hope that helps, its my thinking nothing more
I believe we will have bodies like angels after death where we will have bodies that are interchangeable with both dimensions.We can add Enoch and Elijah to that.
Yup, I meant to mention that in my post and forgot.We can add Enoch and Elijah to that.
The ascension of Christ until a cloud received Him out of the sight of the Apostles was a phenomenon sufficiently clear to impress upon them some higher state of being. As a matter of fact He ascended only relatively to those who were watching Him. Our notions of ascent and descent are regulated by direction from the center of the earth. To the man on the opposite side of the earth the direction taken by Christ would be in the direction of descent. However, relatively to those watching Him, Christ ascended, and after a few moments they found themselves looking at a cloud. How far did Christ go? He merely allowed His supernatural qualities to assert themselves, and His body took upon itself in nature independent of all earthly conditions and limitations. He simply passed into another state of being, even as the thoughts incorporated in these words on paper are passing into another state of being within your mind as you read. And His new state at once renders useless all calculations based upon visible qualities as we know them. You might just as well try to measure abstract beauty with a wooden ruler. Christ’s glorified body is not subject to conditions of which we have experience.