Ash Wednesday & Good Friday fasting - liquids allowed

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For the benefit of all CAF readers, I looked up the following, which addresses whether liquids may be taken between meals on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. I normally drink non-nutritive beverages between meals (black coffee, diet sodas) and wondered whether this is permissible on fast days. It is permitted. Only beverages that are materially comprised of some solid food (ice cream drinks, drinks with raw egg blended into them, smoothies, etc.) are prohibited. (Where to “split hairs” in this regard is beyond my pay grade. If in doubt, consult a confessor.)

CURRENT CHURCH REGULATIONS ON FASTING AND ABSTINENCE

Penitents observe all Church prescribed days of fast and abstinence as well as additional days required by the Rule itself. Current Church regulations on fasting and abstinence are these:

Fast: The law of fast prescribes that only one full meal a day be taken; but it does not forbid taking some nourishment at two other times during the day. The two smaller meals should be sufficient to maintain strength according to each one’s needs, but together they should not equal another full meal. Eating between meals is not permitted, but liquids, including ordinary, homogenized milk and fruit juices, are allowed. Malted milks, milk shakes, and the like are not included in the term “milk.” All those from eighteen years of age to the beginning of their sixtieth year are bound by the law of fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

Abstinence: The law of abstinence forbids the eating of meat, but not eggs, milk products, nor condiments of any kind, even though made from animal fat. Forbidden are the flesh meat of warm blooded animals and all parts of such animals. This does not include meat juices, broths, soups, lards, gravies, sauces, animal fats, and liquid foods made from meat. Also allowed are fish and all such cold-blooded animals such as frogs, shell-fish, clams, turtles, oysters, crabs, and lobsters. All those who have completed their fourteenth year are bound to the law of abstinence from meat on Ash Wednesday and on all the Friday’s of Lent.

The substantial observance of the laws of fast and abstinence is a serious obligation. When a proportionately serious reason exists, there is surely no sin in departing from these norms. Thus, one may very well be excused by sickness or any infirmity which requires that one eat meat even on Friday during Lent, by the need to take one’s meals in common, by travel when it is not possible to obtain readily permissible foods, by great poverty, etc.
 
So the menu at my house today will include yogurt for breakfast, broccoli cheese soup after going to noon mass and then grilled cheese for supper tonight.
 
That sounds delicious.

Personally, I’m eating nothing but frogs and turtles.
 
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I’ve had frog legs, but I don’t think I’ve ever eaten turtle.
 
So the menu at my house today will include yogurt for breakfast, broccoli cheese soup after going to noon mass and then grilled cheese for supper tonight.
That is an excellent Lenten menu! I have family duties to tend to this afternoon (medical transport) and do not have time to cook, so I have a frozen vegetarian “white” pizza set aside for lunch.
 
Same. Don’t really have any interest in eating turtle either.

I had gator once…I wonder if that’s an acceptable food for days of abstinence.
 
My grilled cheese is made on sour dough bread with at least 4 slices of cheddar and colby jack. I detest American “cheese”. It seems to be a hit at my house, as even my daughter will request it when home visiting.

California Pizza Kitchen used to make a line of frozen pizza, and I liked their Marghuerita (sp) version, which was a “white” pizza. YUM!
 
I had certainly been under the impression that liquids between meals other than water were not permitted. Does this vary according to country?
 
The viscosity of any “liquid” such as water, milk, cream, cheese, broth, bolognaise, or gravy is inversely proportional to the rate at which one will progress to hell if one consumes such during an obligatory fast.
 
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My grilled cheese is made on sour dough bread with at least 4 slices of cheddar and colby jack. I detest American “cheese”. It seems to be a hit at my house, as even my daughter will request it when home visiting.

California Pizza Kitchen used to make a line of frozen pizza, and I liked their Marghuerita (sp) version, which was a “white” pizza. YUM!
American “cheese” has an artificial and plastic feel to it, I will agree, but there is no other cheese that melts quite so exquisitely on a grilled hamburger. It is basically a denatured, highly processed cheddar. I am told that government-supplied American cheese (such as was distributed to the poor and elderly in the 1980s from government farm surplus stockpiles) is the best version of it.

CPK is the pizza I have in the freezer for later today. Lidl (the German-owned discount grocery) also does a nice job with cheese pizza.
 
I think it’s good to let people know the source of the quote.

From a Google search, I found this site which includes the quote and they cite this as the source:
Source: The Pastoral Companion: A Canon Law Handbook for Catholic Ministry, Franciscan Herald Press: Chicago, Illinois, 1995, pp. 292-96.
So I would note that this is from a commentary on canon law, not a specific Church document.

Not that the information is incorrect. The note my bishop sends out every year is very similar. He also says that milk and fruit juices do not break the fast but something like a milkshake could not be consumed in between meals without breaking the fast.
 
Since I lift weights a lot I drink protein supplements made with whey protein isolate and some yogurt mixed in to improve the consistency. Would this be acceptable as something liquid between meals on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, and in general on Fridays during Lent?
 
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It is certainly okay generally on Friday’s during Lent. Friday’s during Lent are not days of Fast.
 
had oatmeal for breakfast, an apple with cheese and small yogurt for lunch and dinner will be either grilled cheese or baked fish.
 
Porridge for breakfast, soup for lunch, pasta with a tomato sauce for dinner.
 
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