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My dear Buddhist brothers and sisters 
I have a couple of thoughts I would like to share with you on Abba Evagrius Ponticus (one of the greatest and most systematic theologians among the early Desert Fathers) & Saint Isaac the Syrian, a seventh century Syrian theologian who has had a potent influence in both the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches
First Abba Evagrius:
He envites contemplatives to track the emotional intensity, frequency, duration and associations of their thoughts, many of which are so fleeting that they tend to go unnoticed unless brought under disciplined scrutiny.
Scrupoli refers also to a technique that similarly requires pentrating introspection:
Secondly, Saint Isaac:

I have a couple of thoughts I would like to share with you on Abba Evagrius Ponticus (one of the greatest and most systematic theologians among the early Desert Fathers) & Saint Isaac the Syrian, a seventh century Syrian theologian who has had a potent influence in both the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches
First Abba Evagrius:
Here in the 21st century, we tend to assign the turbulence of our minds to subconscious forces rather then demonic forces. But whether we are trying to take the measure of āsome of the more fierce demonsā or simply trying to become more centered in Christ, Evagriusā advice is well worth heeding. He teaches us one of the most important practices of Christian Contemplation: Watchfulness - observing the rise and fall of our thoughts, to discern patterns, vices moving them, intensities, complexity, periodicity etc.āā¦If there is any monk who wishes to take the measure of some of the more fierce passions so as to gain experience in his monastic art, then let him keep careful watch over his thoughts. Let him observe their intensity, their periods of decline and follow them as they rise and fall. Let him note well the complexity of his thoughts, their periodicity, the demons which cause them, with the order of their succession and the nature of their associations. Then let him ask from Christ the explanations of these data he has observedā¦Watch carefully and you will discover the two swiftest demons - they are nearly more swift than the speed of thoughtā¦ā
ā Abba Evagrius Ponticus(345-399 AD), Catholic mystic & monk, The Praktikos & Chapters on Prayer
He envites contemplatives to track the emotional intensity, frequency, duration and associations of their thoughts, many of which are so fleeting that they tend to go unnoticed unless brought under disciplined scrutiny.
Scrupoli refers also to a technique that similarly requires pentrating introspection:
"ā¦The reason why we have wrong judgment of the things we mentioned earlier is that we do not look deeply into them to see what they are, but conceive a liking for them or a dislike of them from the very first glance, judging by appearances. These likes and dislikes prejudice our mind and darken it; and so it cannot form a. right judgment of things as they really are. So, my brother, if you wish to be free of this prelest in your mind, keep strict attention over yourself; and when you see a thing with your eyes, or visualise it in your mind, keep a firm grip on your desires and do not allow yourself at the first glance either to conceive a liking for the thing or a dislike for it, but examine it in a detached way with the mind alone. Unobscured by passion, the mind then remains in a state natural to it, which is free and pure, and has the possibility to know the truth and to penetrate into the depths of a thing, where evil is often concealed under a deceptively attractive exterior and where good is sometimes hidden under a bad appearance.
But if desire comes first and at once either likes a thing or turns away from it, your mind no longer has the possibility to know it rightly as it should. For if this predisposition, or rather this passion precedes every judgment, it enters within, becomes a wall between the mind and the thing and, obscuring the mind, makes it form its judgment from passion. In other words, it sees it not as it really is, which strengthens still more its original predisposition. The further this predisposition runs ahead, or the more it likes or dislikes a thing, the more it obscures the mind in relation to it, until it darkens the mind completely. Then passion in relation to this thing reaches its ultimate limits, so that it appears to a man either as the most desirable or the most hateful of all the things he ever liked or disliked. Thus it happens that when the rule I have indicated is not observed, that is, when desire is not restrained from forming likes and dislikes before a thing is properly examined, then both these powers of the soulāmind and willāalways work wrongly, plunging ever deeper and deeper from darkness to darkness, and from sin to sin.
So watch, my beloved, with all attention and protect yourself from liking or disliking a thing out of passion, before you have had time to examine it properly in the light of reason and the just word of the Divine Scriptures, in the light of grace and prayer, and with the help of the judgment of your spiritual father; otherwise you may sin in taking for evil what is truly good, and for good what is truly evil. This mostly happens in the case of certain actions, which are good and holy in themselves, but which according to circumstances,) namely that if they are done at a wrong time, or are out of place, or arc not done in the right measure, cause, considerable harm to those who do them, We know from experience what afflictions are suffered by some through such worthy and holy deedsā¦"
Is this akin to Buddhist āmindfulnessā?***- Lorenzo Scupoli (ca. 1530 ā 1610), Italian Catholic mystic ***
Secondly, Saint Isaac:
āā¦What is a charitable heart? It is a heart aflame with charityfor the whole of Creation, for men, for birds, for beasts, for devils, for all creatures. He who hasthis heart will be unable to remember or see a creature without his eyes filling with tears becauseof the compassion that grips his heart; and that heart is softened and cannot endure to see even aslight pain inflicted on a creature or to hear of it through others; this is why such a man does notcease praying also for animals, for the enemies of the Truth, for those who do evil to him, so thatthey may be protected and purified; he even prays for reptiles, moved by an infinite pity which isawakened in the heart of those who assimilate themselves to Godā¦ā
I think that this attitude is very in tune with Buddhism- Saint Isaac the Syrian (died c. 700), Catholic mystic, Bishop & theologian