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Your quote regarding things that some Protestants call the Catholic Church isn’t the same thing at all as the Catholic Church believing that Gnostism was/is a heresy. You may feel that Gnostics were given a bad rap by the Church, so perhaps you can show how all of the dogmas of the Catholic Church are also believed in the same way by Gnostics then and now…
I don’t believe in the all of the dogmas of the Catholic Church – Neither do Protestants, and on many issues, neither do the Orthodox. And to my knowledge, no one really calls them heretics. But we all still share certain similarities.
Most of what you’ve written regarding your beliefs as a Gnostic are opposed to Catholic teaching. So to infer there was some sort of agenda against Gnostics just isn’t sound reasoning. It’s obvious that Catholic teaching and Gnostic teaching are poles apart.
They are rather at opposite poles, and I think that has a lot to do with the fact that they diverged at such a formative stage in Christianity. By the time of the East/West split, most of Christendom agreed on certain dogmas that were still being debated in the first few centuries. Personally, I like to focus on what we have in common rather than theological differences, because that’s what unites us as Christians.
Thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut, but I did understand what gnosisofthomas was saying.
Maybe you did, but that didn’t exactly come across in your response. We don’t have to agree with each other’s religious beliefs, but we should try to be respectful of them and show Christian charity. My faith is just as important to me as yours is to you. You may find this odd, but Gnosticism actually gave me a greater appreciation for my Catholicism… Before I discovered there were practicing Gnostics around, I went through a few years having a lot of contempt for Christianity – Not Christ, but Christianity. It’s kind of funny that a bunch of “heretics” brought me back to Christ in a whole new way! 🙂
 
I think you completely missed gnosisofthomas’s point. His point was, if I read his post correctly, that slamming someone in the face with the fact that you think they’re heretics isn’t very nice, and we don’t like it when others do it to us. It is possible to have a conversation with a person who has a very different set of beliefs than your own and never once say that you think they’re wrong. Good religious conversations avoid prejudices, stereotypes and ESPECIALLY avoid an “us vs. them” mentality.
Exactly! Thank you. 🙂
 
I don’t believe in the all of the dogmas of the Catholic Church – Neither do Protestants, and on many issues, neither do the Orthodox. And to my knowledge, no one really calls them heretics. But we all still share certain similarities.
But I did not call you a heretic. Please point out where I did this. I pointed out that Gnosticism of old was considered a heresy by the Catholic Church. There are few similarities, IMO, between Gnosticism and Catholicism. I think that Stephen Hoeller is wrong. The Catholic Church will not ever accept any Gnostic views. I can’t think of any Catholic Dogmas that with line up with your Gnostic beliefs. Please correct me if I’m wrong about that.

Most Protestants today are not considered heretics because they were born into their respective faith communities. In fact, it really isn’t even accurate to call them “Protestants,” because for the most part, they do not actively protest against the Catholic Church. But the Protestants of old, to my knowledge, did hold heretical views, such as Luther and Calvin, in that both men had previously been Catholic and started non-Catholic denominations.

I do not intend any disrespect. I have several New-Age friends, and Stephen Hoeller is a friend of my husband. My husband’s stepfather is a retired LCC bishop. It’s been a long time since I’ve been to one of Stephen’s talks, though, about 18 years.
 
Since "Ask a " threads seem to be popular in this forum, and I’ve found them quite interesting, I thought I would start one here. Feel free to ask any questions you may have about Gnostic Christianity, and I’ll try my best to answer them.

I’m currently on the cusp of being ordained to the Subdiaconate in a Gnostic church, after spending the last few years in Minor Orders. While I can’t promise to know everything, I feel confident enough in my faith to be able to answer questions about it. 🙂

May the peace of the Lord be with you!
If Gnostics regard that the matter of this world is evil and only spirit is good, what is the purpose of Jesus’ death on the cross and the Resurrection of his body three days later? What is the purpose of giving the blind man the gift of sight or giving the deaf man the gift of hearing? What is the purpose of works of mercy to each other when the spirit is “chained to the evil flesh of the world”?

God is love, God is truth and God is good. All of God’s works are good. Therefore all of creation is good. Creation can be corrupted by evil acts, either by us or the Evil One. When creation is corrupted by evil, it must be rectified to good. This is where Jesus comes in. He is the Redeemer, the Defeater of Evil. He gave his body as a sacrifice for our evil acts, our sins so that we may be rectified to good, to God. We must be Instruments of God’s will to each other through acts of kindness and mercy. Our spirit is not supposed to be without our body. Christ shows us this in his Resurrection and Ascension into Heaven.

The Peace of God be with you always
 
I was curious about Gnostism for awhile. It caught my attention due to its similarity to what I was studying at the time. Back then I was highly interested in ceremonial magic specifically the Magic of Abra Melin the Mage which was translated by Macgregor Mathers of the Golden Dawn. I know that Gnostism isn’t the same thing but they seemed to share the same view of the world. I wasn’t a baptised christian back then. Now I’m not equating Gnostism with Ceremonial Magic simply because; magick was a way for a magician to impose his or her will on creation to achieve results. Naturally, anyone who practises a faith knows that its not our wills be done but the Lords’ Will be Done ie submission to a higher power in the case of Christians God. It was rather telling when I would read of ceremonial magicians trying to hex catholics, usually failing disastrously. It caught my attention and eventually led me to the Church. Not for any desire of power but to learn humility and gain faith, hope, and love. I have a long way to go, my race isn’t finished yet. All i can do is strive to be the best Maronite Catholic I can be. Thank you Gnosis of thomas.
 
Not a very good example of it.
I understand that you are a former Catholic. If you were an informed, catechised Catholic and you left the Catholic Church for gnosticism, then you have traded the truth for a lie. And I mean it when I say that I am being charitable. You need to know the truth. I mean really, lets take just a small sample of what you have bought into.
“The crucifixion isn’t seen as an act of redemption by Gnostics”
“Some said: Mary conceived of the Holy Spirit. They are in error. They do not know what they are saying. When did a woman ever conceive of a woman? Mary is the virgin whom no power defiled, who is anathema to the Hebrews, the apostles and ignorant men. This is the Virgin whom no power defiled.” (Gospel of St. Philip)
If you want me to say “well isn’t that nice”, I wouldn’t hold my breath. That would not be charitable, but rather promoting the error into which you have fallen. You seem like a very nice person but having been Catholic you have put your soul in danger by abandoning the faith handed down by the Apostles. Had you not been Catholic I would not have made any response at all.
 
And now to answer the rest of your questions. 🙂
Could you explain archons and the Divine Pleroma, please? I don’t think I’m familiar with the terms.
I’ll start with the Pleroma, and then explain the archons. The Greek word “Pleroma” means “Fullness.” It refers to the totality of Divine Power(s), all the Aeons collectively. It’s used generally in Gnosticism, and also by St. Paul in Colossians 2:9. Now, the Aeons are beings/levels of existence that are emanated from from the Godhead, often in pairs (called syzygies, masculine and feminine counterparts). Their names often denote spiritual or mental attributes such as “Faith” (Pistis), “Wisdom” (Sophia), “Word” (Logos), “Forethought” (Protennoia); or important Gnostic concepts such as “Man” (Anthropos) or “Spirit” (Pneuma). These syzygies work together to emanate further and further. If God is thought of as a giant mind, then the Aeons are different aspects of that mind that all work together, and in Gnostic scripture they’re often personified in order to tell a story. The Aeons aren’t created by God out of nothing; rather, they’re emanated – God pours forth aspects of himself. The ultimate source of these Aeons is referred to by various different terms: “Unknown Father,” “Ineffable Father,” “Spirit,” “Light,” “Life,” etc. God is “Unknown” because He’s so far beyond the ability of a human to comprehend, and “Ineffable” because any words we use to describe Him put limitations on him that don’t actually exist. But of course we have to have a way to talk about Him, and that’s where myths come in… so that we can begin to wrap our minds around the complexity of God.

In the Gnostic mythos, Sophia is the youngest Aeon, whose counterpart or consort is the Christos. She is the Wisdom of God, and She’s important to Gnostics because of Her involvement in creation. Her story varies slightly depending on the text you read, but basically She longed to know Her Source, the Unknown Father. And in Her longing and sorrow, She emanated by Herself, without the cooperation of her masculine counterpart. This emanation resulted in the creation of an imperfect “monster”: Ialdabaoth, the demiurge.

When She saw what happened, She regretted Her error, and hid Ialdabaoth from the other Aeons by placing him in the abyss outside of the Pleroma. He was unaware of where he came from, but he could see a reflection of the Pleroma in the abyss. He believed himself to be the only thing that existed, and began creating a model of the reflection he saw, using the power he received from Sophia. He created archons to assist him, which are like lower counterparts to the Aeons above. He and the archons created the physical world, and ultimately human beings. Because of this, Sophia’s was divided, as part of her power was trapped in the physical world… This is why the serpent was sent to instruct Adam and Eve of their true origins, so that they would know that Ialdabaoth was not the true God, but that they came from a much high source. This is also ultimately why Christ came to earth, to redeem Sophia and restore the Fullness to the Aeons, by awakening the Divine Sparks within humanity so that they would no longer be under the control of the demiurge.
What happens when we reunite with God? Do we lose all our individuality, consciousness and personality?
That is the question, haha. I don’t know what happens. I like to think that we maintain at least part of our individual consciousness… But since we’re ultimately part of the Whole, I doubt that that will be the case.
Would you mind humoring me and going off on this tangent? I’m curious to see what you’d say here.
This was about God emanating and learning about Himself (just to refresh people’s memories). When the Father first emanated, He emanated Forethought (also called First Thought, sometimes named Barbelo, a feminine Aeon). These two work together, and all Aeons are brought forth from them. Originally, the Source was all that existed, and everything that could possibly exist existed within Him. In emanating, suddenly there was an observer and an observee… if that makes sense. Anything that an Aeon experiences is an experience of God, and since the physical world that we live in is really another Aeon, our experience is also part of His experience. Since all potentialities exist within Him, even the evil things people do to one another are part of His experience. The story of the fall of Sophia is really the story of our own soul’s decent into the limitations of matter. It’s happening on a grand cosmic scale, but each of us experiences it individually in our own way. My thought is that, God being God, He could have fixed Sophia’s error with a metaphorical snap of His fingers – but He didn’t! He didn’t because that was part of the processing of learning about Himself.

Space and time are interesting because we experience time linearaly. So everything that happens, we see in terms of past, present, and future. But for God, Who is not bound by space or time, the whole of human history is but a blip in eternity. It’s ultimately just one small part of the potentialities that exist within God. So this error that we experience while embodied in physical form, while it seems like it’s taking a long time to rectify, is really a split secon in the eternal experience of God. It’s very difficult to explain, and I’m not doing it justice here… so if it doesn’t make sense, I can try to explain it further. 🙂
 
I think there’s something to be said for the beauty there. So faith for Gnostics is simply a starting point on our journey while we search for knowledge through experience?
The word “Faith” is tricky because in common language, it tends to be interchangeable with “belief.” While belief can certainly be involved in faith, it has a much deeper meaning than that. Faith implies trust. One of the names of Sophia is Pistis Sophia, which means Faith(ful) Wisdom – it’s also the title of a Gnostic scripture about the fall and redemption of Pistis Sophia. In Her story, She continuously calls out to the Light to rescue Her after She’s fallen into Error. But She also continously sings praises to the Light, because She has *faith *in It to rescue Her. She knows that no matter how hopeless Her situation seems, the Light will save Her. There’s a beautiful selection of Odes and Repentances attributed to Her in the Pistis Sophia, which Jesus teaches to His apostles, and they in turn interpret them in light of scripture (often from the Psalms of David and the Odes of Solomon).

So certainly belief is a starting point, because if you don’t believe in anything then what reason would you have to strive for Gnosis at all? But it’s also a constant trust in the Divine that we will be saved – and that, to me, is the foundation of our journey to salvation.
If you don’t mind my asking, what sorts of questions were these?
Some of them were simple questions I had as a child, such as: Why didn’t God want Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge? Now, I grew up in the Church of the Nazarene, but left at the age of 14 to convert to Catholicism. In the Nazarene Church, the answer I was given was pretty much, “Well God had His reasons, and it’s not for us to question them.” But that didn’t satisfy me – I wanted to know what that reason was, and what was so bad about having knowledge of good and evil? And even as a Catholic, there wasn’t really a good answer to this question.

As a Gnostic, the story of Adam and Eve is a story of salvation, and it explains in detail why the demiurge, who is not the true God, didn’t want them to have knowledge. But it also gives me some insight into the orthodox version of the story – If God knows all things, then He knew that Adam and Eve would eat from the Tree of Knowledge before He ever created them. The question from an orthodox perspective would then be, why would He create them in the first place, if He knew he was just going to have to punish them in the end?

I also didn’t understand what made the crucifixion an act of redepmtion. If God is can do anything, why couldn’t He just forgive people without anyone having to die? I think this most likely goes back to the ancient Jewish practice of offering sacrifice for atonenment… making Jesus the ultimate sacrifice. But I personally have never liked religions that require killing something or someone in order to stay in good favor with their god(s). This is basically the same reason I have a problem with circumcision. But even outside of a Judeo-Christian context, I also have a problem with Voodoo because they sacrifice animals. I feel any god that requires murder is not a god I could ever worship in good conscience.

Another question I had was about heaven and hell. At least as a Catholic, there was also purgatory, so there was still hope. But as a Protestant, we didn’t believe in purgatory… You either went to heaven or hell when you died, and that was it. Hell obviously didn’t sound appealing, but to be honest, an eternity in heaven sounded boring. (Remember this was a question I had as a child, so that’s where my mind went, haha!) I actually found the idea of reincarnation more appealing because life was seen as a learning opportunity, and I’d be give multiple chances to improve myself and learn. But even that wasn’t so appealing, because when it comes right down to it, I don’t particularly want to come back here. Yes, there are some wonderful things in the world, but it’s also full of war, destruction, poverty, disease, hate, terror. Why would I want to come back to all that? While I still think reincarnation is beneficial for the soul, I do like the hope that I can eventually escape that.

I also find the orthodox teachings on gender and sexual orientation problematic. I understand where the beliefs are coming from, but they violate my conscience. Hopefully this won’t turn into a debate over the subject, because that’s not the focus of this thread.
Do Gnostics believe in reincarnation? Also, can you elaborate on the bolded part?
I touched on this a bit in my answer above, but this depends on the particular Gnostic you’re talking to. Some believe in reincarnation, some don’t. Personally, I do believe in it, but through Gnosis we *can *be liberated from the cycle of birth and rebirth. Some of the ancient scriptures do seem to suggest reincarnation, while others don’t.

As for existence separate from God, there is a Gnostic concept of the “outer darkness.” Whether that’s an eternal place for the unredeemed, or simply a temporary place, is up for debate. Personally, I believe in universal salvation, and that everyone (including the demiurge himself) will eventually be redeemed. So I see separation from God as largely a state of mind – if someone rejects God, he’s essentially separated himself. However, because we all contain that divine spark within us, we can never truly be separated from Him. We *can *be so bogged down by materialism and our own ego though, that we have effectively become separated from God, if only for the time being.
 
So this ties into Gnosticism’s idea that we are all divine sparks of God, and “parts” of God, yes? That we really are God, as you said, “if only we would wake up and realize it?”
Are you referring to the part about no longer being a Christian, but a Christ? I’d say yes and no (Gnostics like contradictions, haha!). Yes, because Christ already exists within each one of us. And no, not because it’s untrue, but because I think that quote is also referring to the idea of reaching such a state that you no longer need a master. There’s a passage in the the Gospel of Thomas where Jesus asks the apostles, “Compare me to something and tell me what I am like.”

St. Peter replies, “Thou art like a righteous angel!” St. Matthew says, “Thou art like a wise philosopher.” But St. Thomas admits, “Master, my mouth is utterly incapable of saying what Thou art like.”

Jesus replies to Thomas, “I am no longer thy master; for thou hast drunk from my lips, and thou art inebriated from the bubbling spring which I have caused to gush forth.” And then He takes Thomas aside and says three things to him, which scripture does elaborate on. When the apostles ask him what Jesus said, Thomas says, “If I tell you even one of the words he said to me, you will take up stones and throw them at me, and fire will come out of the stones and consume you!”

The suggestion here is what I said above, Thomas no longer needs a master, because he’s reached a point where he is a master himself. Interestingly enough, there’s a similar story in the canonical gospels, however in that case it’s Peter that gives the right answer. 🙂
So this interpretation by the Gnostics is REALLY a virgin birth, it seems. But when Jesus was incarnate of Mary… Did He just show up? You know what, forget this question, the virgin birth is a mystery beyond human comprehension anyway! 😃 But it is interesting, since Wisdom is personified as feminine in the Book of Proverbs. I think that line from the Gospel of Philip seeks to maintain the virginity of Mary even more; we often speak of the Holy Spirit as “coming upon” Mary, and that’s when she conceived Jesus, whereas the Gospel of Philip is basically saying “Look, the Holy Spirit didn’t have intercourse with Mary; after all, spirit is a feminine word!”
Yes, this really emphasizes that Mary was a virgin! Some Gnostic scriptures, however, suggest that Jesus was the natural son of Joseph, and that He became the Anointed One (Christ) when He was baptised by St. John. There were definitely a lot of different ideas going around in the first few centuries about all of this, so it depends a lot on which sect you look at.
Do you mind sharing what that view of our resurrection is?
The resurrection is a freeing of the spirit from the body. So for Gnostics, it’s not a bodily resurrection that will occur at the end of time, long after we’ve died; rather it’s something that has to happen while we’re alive. The Gospel of Philip says, “Those who say they will die first and then rise are in error. If they do not first receive the resurrection while they live, when they die they will receive nothing.”

Gnostics took a very esoteric view of death, and often the word “death” is used to describe our state living in the world right now – the part of us that is tied to the demiurge. Actual bodily death would release the divine part of a person from the demiurge’s power (if they’ve attained the resurrection in life, through Gnosis).

This is one of those topics where, when I tell people there’s nothing in the Apostles’ Creed that I disagree with, we simply interpret it differently. Where most Christians believe that “resurrection of the body” refers to a bodily resurrection, I interpret it to mean the resurrection while in the body. It’s a slight nuance, but prepositions are always tricky to translate from one language to another. 😉
Perhaps another question for discussion is, both Gnostics and Orthodox Christians can be said to arrive at the same conclusions in several areas, but by way of different reasonings. Do these different reasonings matter in the grand scheme of things?
I don’t think they matter. We often express the same ideas, in slightly different ways. But usually if you read between the lines a bit, you can see that it’s the same basic idea at the core.
 
I understand the difficulty in believing that God is responsible for commanding the genocides in the OT. Is the Demiurge really viewed as a second god, or a powerful, misguided spirit? If simply a powerful, misguided spirit, then perhaps that would explain some parts of the OT. Do you feel that more violent parts of the Mosaic Law could have been caused by the Demiurge interfering while God was giving Moses the Law, or added in those parts later?
The demiurge isn’t really a god, although he fancies himself one. The Hypostasis of the Archons says that in his arrogance the demiurge said, “I am God; there is no other god but me.” But it goes on to say that when he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And Sophia responded, “You are a liar, Samael!”

He’s definitely powerful because he received that power from the Pleroma, and he’s definitely misguided. I see the demiurge and archons as more like the powers and systems that seek to control us within the world, rather than actual entities – but that’s not to say that they don’t exist as beings on their own.

I feel that a lot of the OT laws and destruction actually come from the demiurge, but through his influence it’s come to be attributed to God. But there is also a lot of the OT where the Father is clearly present. This is why scripture (Even Gnostic scripture!) must be taken with a grain of salt – because as a product of an imperfect world, it can’t be treated as the infallible word of God. It gets influenced by archons, writers putting in their own opinions, translators mistranslating things, etc. It’s a great tool to learn from, but to Gnostics, it’s not authoritative. It’s important to listen to our inner voice, our conscience, to determine what the right course of action is – and that’s different for different people.
 
Space and time are interesting because we experience time linearaly. So everything that happens, we see in terms of past, present, and future. But for God, Who is not bound by space or time, the whole of human history is but a blip in eternity. It’s ultimately just one small part of the potentialities that exist within God. So this error that we experience while embodied in physical form, while it seems like it’s taking a long time to rectify, is really a split secon in the eternal experience of God. It’s very difficult to explain, and I’m not doing it justice here… so if it doesn’t make sense, I can try to explain it further. 🙂
It is very difficult to express in human language because it is beyond human experience. In eternity, all of history unfolds at once before the eyes of God. We cannot properly even say that our physical existence is a split second (though I, of course understand what you are saying).
 
If Gnostics regard that the matter of this world is evil and only spirit is good, what is the purpose of Jesus’ death on the cross and the Resurrection of his body three days later? What is the purpose of giving the blind man the gift of sight or giving the deaf man the gift of hearing? What is the purpose of works of mercy to each other when the spirit is “chained to the evil flesh of the world”?
Gnostics don’t truly view the world as evil, that’s a misconception that’s been popularized throughout history. The world is seen as imperfect, whereas the spirit is perfect. But the fact is, we have to live in the world, while not being of it. Gnostic scripture is full of world-affirming language, because God is seen to permeate all of reality. Now, some Gnostic sects may have had a more negative view of the world than others – the medieval Cathars, for example, believed that the devil himself created the world! But even they did good works, establishing hospitals, orphanages, and providing care for the elderly. Seeing the world as a place of suffering, they sought to help those in need as much as they could to relieve that suffering.

I’ve talked quite a bit in previous posts about how the experience of suffering in an imperfect world is ultimately part of the experience of God, so I won’t go into that again here… But Jesus’ death on the cross has a very different significance for Gnostics than it does for orthodox Christians. From my perspective, it seems that orthodox Christians see the world as more evil than Gnostics ever did (or still do), because there’s this idea that the world is full of sin, and needed a savior to come redeem us from that sin so that God would forgive us. That’s not really a concept that Gnosticism has.

Gnosticism certainly has a concept of sin, but that sin is a *result *of the imperfection of the world – not the *cause *of it. To the Gnostic, Christ’s incarnation was the act of redemption, not His death. The crucifixion was necessary to release Christ from His earthly body, so that He could continue His mission on earth – the time He spent on earth after the Resurrection varies depending on the scripture you read. Some sources say He spent as long as 12 years on earth teaching the inner Mysteries, after the Resurrection.
God is love, God is truth and God is good. All of God’s works are good. Therefore all of creation is good. Creation can be corrupted by evil acts, either by us or the Evil One. When creation is corrupted by evil, it must be rectified to good. This is where Jesus comes in. He is the Redeemer, the Defeater of Evil. He gave his body as a sacrifice for our evil acts, our sins so that we may be rectified to good, to God. We must be Instruments of God’s will to each other through acts of kindness and mercy. Our spirit is not supposed to be without our body. Christ shows us this in his Resurrection and Ascension into Heaven.
I agree with most of what you said here. 🙂 God is love, God is truth, God is good. The only differences I see here are that in the Gnostic view, the demiurge created the physical world, God didn’t create it directly. So creation is imperfect (I wouldn’t use the word “corrupted”, but I see what you mean) which leads to evil; evil isn’t what corrupted it in the first place. And I’d also say that He *entered *a body as a sacrifice, not for our evil acts, but for the imperfection that causes evil to exist.
Our spirit is not supposed to be without our body. Christ shows us this in his Resurrection and Ascension into Heaven.
Our spirit doesn’t exist on earth without our body, but the spirit is eternal while the body isn’t, so eventually the spirit will exist without the body. This reminds me of a verse in the Gospel of Thomas where Jesus says, “If the flesh came into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel. But if the spirit came into existence because of the body, it is a marvel of marvels. But I marvel at how this great wealth has made its home in such poverty.”

To Gnostics, Christ shows us through His Resurrection and Ascension that we can rise above the limitations of matter, and return to the Fullness of God. That was His mission here on earth.
 
I was curious about Gnostism for awhile. It caught my attention due to its similarity to what I was studying at the time. Back then I was highly interested in ceremonial magic specifically the Magic of Abra Melin the Mage which was translated by Macgregor Mathers of the Golden Dawn. I know that Gnostism isn’t the same thing but they seemed to share the same view of the world. I wasn’t a baptised christian back then. Now I’m not equating Gnostism with Ceremonial Magic simply because; magick was a way for a magician to impose his or her will on creation to achieve results. Naturally, anyone who practises a faith knows that its not our wills be done but the Lords’ Will be Done ie submission to a higher power in the case of Christians God. It was rather telling when I would read of ceremonial magicians trying to hex catholics, usually failing disastrously. It caught my attention and eventually led me to the Church. Not for any desire of power but to learn humility and gain faith, hope, and love. I have a long way to go, my race isn’t finished yet. All i can do is strive to be the best Maronite Catholic I can be. Thank you Gnosis of thomas.
The purpose of ceremonial magic is to elevate oneself, and contribute to the healing of reality. If they’re hexing people, they’re not very good magicians because they’re missing the point of it all. The problem with a lot of ceremonial magicians is that it becomes a huge ego trip for some of them, and if they’re not practicing magic for the right reasons, it can destroy them – drive them insane. This is what Aleister Crowley was getting at when he’d talk about the Left Hand Path. A truly valuable spiritual practice, whether magical or religious (and I’d wager they’re basically the same thing), should lead to humility, faith, hope, and love. A truly great magician knows that our will and God’s Will should be one and the same thing – if it’s not, then you’re doing it wrong.
 
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