T
Transalosania
Guest
Seriously though dont you think that is ridiculousA few million mormons![]()
Seriously though dont you think that is ridiculousA few million mormons![]()
I sure do. Satan is hard at work in Utah.Seriously though dont you think that is ridiculous
I have said for YEARS that Satan is very clever. The bad folks are easy. Tempt them with drugs, alcohol, violence, etc.I sure do. Satan is hard at work in Utah.
The problem with being LDS and believing in continuing revelation is picking what revelator to follow since so many have had the same claims Joe hadI wonder why these Millions so-readily believe this man, before God at that, all this as well as many other false religions Proves is that the devil is good at deceiving.
Well this sums it up really, they should just follow God it would be a lot simpler for everyone.The problem with being LDS and believing in continuing revelation is picking what revelator to follow since so many have had the same claims Joe had
Yes it would. They choose to follow a man made god, not our God.Well this sums it up really, they should just follow God it would be a lot simpler for everyone.
Let me put it this way. Restorationist churches claim an apostacy has occured. For an apostacy to occur Jesus would have to have failed the first time He gave us His Church. So what does that make Jesus? A failure? A liar? A poor teacher? Since He left us His Church the numbers grew (1.2 billion people) so how does that show an apostacy? I would put the b.o.m down and never look at it again. Look at the other threads about mormonism and the facts we have shown about the lds church and you will be suprised by what their āprophetsā claim. Christ gave us His Church, do you think He would let evil prevail against it as it says in Scripture?Iām starting to read the BoM atm, Iām just all confused on what the true Church is atmā¦
^^this^^ is very well said and highly TrueLet me put it this way. Restorationist churches claim an apostacy has occured. For an apostacy to occur Jesus would have to have failed the first time He gave us His Church. So what does that make Jesus? A failure? A liar? A poor teacher? Since He left us His Church the numbers grew (1.2 billion people) so how does that show an apostacy? I would put the b.o.m down and never look at it again. Look at the other threads about mormonism and the facts we have shown about the lds church and you will be suprised by what their āprophetsā claim. Christ gave us His Church, do you think He would let evil prevail against it as it says in Scripture?
That confusion is unnecessary, and usually caused by taling your eyes off Christ and letting the bright lights and āstuffā on the side of the road distract you. Sorta like someone slowing down to look at someone elses accident.Iām starting to read the BoM atm, Iām just all confused on what the true Church is atmā¦
All religions have some sort of initiation be it baptism, jumping across a broon, waving a bag of chicken guts in the air, shaking the pastors hand⦠But they lack and will never have the Priesthood Authorization from Jesus Christ that we have.Do Mormons have baptisms? (sorry if this question may have been answered already but the thread is so long.)
I personally find lots of archaeological evidence consistent with the culture and setting as described in the Book of Mormon, as do many well-educated, trained archeologists who are Mormon. Generally I find the āno archaeological evidenceā arguments to be straw-men arguments, they refute claims that the text itself, when studied properly, does not claim - such as that all native inhabitants of the Americas are descended from Book of Mormon peoples or that the Nephites/Lamanites were the only people on the scene in Mesoamerica. I also think any good analysis of the ancient world would not rely exclusively on one arm of scientific inquiry.
There is a thick annotated bibliography of thousands of academic papers showing evidence or pre-Columbian voyaging/contact between the ancient Americans and the Old World (anthropology, archaeology, art history, ethnobotany, ethnozoology, folklore, geography, linguistics, history, and nautical history). maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/bookstore/?id=95
Of course it would be academic suicide to imply that such evidences support a divine explanation of the Book of Mormon, so making the arguments directly will always be left to the apologists.
Mormons would not be surprised in the least if additional records or scripture come to be found, whether related directly to the Book of Mormon peoples or other branches of Israel that God may have led away and commanded to keep a record. All the scriptures we subscribe to, Old & New Testament and Book of Mormon, suggest that other records exist, that there has been an editing and selection process associated with what we have now. The Book of Mormon narrative itself provides three different examples of groups of people led away from Jerusalem who were record keepers. Since Joseph Smithās wild claim of additional scripture on metal plates that looked like gold the world has discovered the Nag Hammadi library, the Dead Sea Scrolls (including the famous Copper scroll), and even ancient records on metal plates buried in stone boxes. So as a believing Mormon I find myself drawn to such discoveries and reports in National Geographic but as an academic I have to temper my enthusiasm and dig in beyond the headlines.
Iāve read it, and studied it as a Mormon. There is a lot of proof texting going on, and not much rigor.Iām starting to read the BoM atm, Iām just all confused on what the true Church is atmā¦
Hello yogosans,Iām starting to read the BoM atm, Iām just all confused on what the true Church is atmā¦
Setting aside the question concerning the actual historicity of the BOM, the book actually has some value because it is about the world of religion. Since your are on a "looking for the true church" crusade the book might possibly be of some value to you.
Nope, sorry, there have been found no ancient Baptism for the Dead fonts, nothing. None of your so called restored things can be found in the original churchā¦how do you restore something that never originally existed and you made up? The genetics of science show that the population moved from the North to the South in direct disagreement with the opinion of the Book of Mormon folks view. There is not a single bit of evidence that ANY genetic code exists between the Middle East and the Central Americas, except for the occasional marriage between a person from the Middle east to a Central American. That is it, and only in those instances.Great! So, where do I buy the tickets to take the tour of these archeological sites?
exactly. No non-LDS scientist of any of the sciences has ever validated anything to do with the B of M. Folks who claim to have evidence only have supposition not supported by anyone.Great! So, where do I buy the tickets to take the tour of these archeological sites?
morrismurdock.com/tours/tour_summary.cfm?page=tours&grouping=Americas&gclid=CIOo1emIgrcCFWJqMgodmBwAmgGreat! So, where do I buy the tickets to take the tour of these archeological sites?