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exoflare
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LOL you’re serious? That’s all you have??
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exoflare
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Well I hope ISYS’s brief stay here has not been in vain. The more jokers like this show up here, the more people will hopefully learn as they get a first-hand look into just how ridiculous Islam really is. Better than trying to have people take my word for it…
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sneakers
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I wouldn’t call these people Christians. I would call them monsters. Evil people. They are misguided, sinful and just plain wrong. They are not Christians. They are hypocrites. Those type of people are in every religion. We call them CRIMINALS. There are criminals of all faiths sitting in jails. They have gone against our country’s laws. Being a Catholic Christian or any other type of Christian does not give anybody the right to commit crimes in the name of their religion. In our society, committing a crime for any reason -including in the name of religion -ANY religion - is a reason to go to jail or, in some cases, to be given the death sentence.Dear Montalban,
You said:"It’s not IshareYoudecide’s mission here to answer questions, but to attack Christianity. That’s why he’s **avoiding your questions ****and insisting on a relativist argument…
1-**To tell you the truth, I’m a business owner (3 kids), so I’ve a busy schedule. I am not a RETIRED fat pig sitting on an EXTRA LARGE sofa (Special Size) and posting here…these post were made over the weekend.
2-No one can answer hundreds of post per day. I try to answer when I can. I assure you that I am not and will never avoid any question. And I am very honest on my answers. If I cannot answer I will let you know.
3-“and insisting on a relativist argument”: Well, I like to talk about this subject.
Are you trying to avoid talking about the Catholic Terrorism? Right? Yes, you are. You ALL can’t handle it. I have more and more about the Christian (Catholic) terrorist, old and new. Of course, at your Churches you hide it and even here, in a nice polite Christian WAY you are asking me to SHUT UP. I am not going to SHUT-UP…unless you do about Islam.
To All (Catholic Terrorist): Am I clear? If not, I will explain with more Catholic Terrorism News…
4-“but even more so given that Hitler was not a Christian)”: You did not give me anything, I gave you what Hitler said: “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter…” he is saying I am Christian and ALL of you are saying No, he isn’t…
Well, I am a Muslim, why don’t you say: “No, you’re not”.
Anyway, I will give it to you as a BONUS “Hitler is not Christian” so no hard feeling…
How about Eric Robert Rudolph the Catholic Terrorist?
Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American domestic Christian terrorist [1][2] who committed a series of bombings across the southern United States, which killed three people and injured at least 150 others. Rudolph is a Catholic,[3] but according to CNN was also “connected with the Christian Identity movement, a militant, racist, and anti-Semitic organization.”[4] He declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion, what he describes as “the homosexual agenda,” and perceived support for it from the United States government. He spent years as the FBI’s most wanted criminal fugitive, but was eventually caught. In 2005 Rudolph pled guilty to numerous federal and state homicide charges and accepted five consecutive life sentences in exchange for avoiding a trial and the death penalty.
To All: Please, do not tell me he is not a Catholic!!!
Thank you,
ISYD
You just pointed out, yourself, that the man you cited (Rudolph), was caught and punished. That is how our western culture works. If you commit a crime, you get punished.
So, now please tell ME. How would YOUR society have punished the muslims who slammed those planes into the two buildings in New York? How about the one who was supposed to be on one of the planes that went into the World Trade Center ( Moussaui) He deserves the death sentence and is sitting in jail. What country do you come from? Would your government punish such a monster? There have been terrorists of all backgrounds, religions and walks of life in this world. However, in the last 20 or 30 years, MOST of them have been MUSLIM. The middle eastern countries have done little to teach their children that this is wrong. At least we TEACH OUR CHILDREN that murder is wrong. Most of them will never go on to kill, and most of them will condemn any other person who kills. We don’t teach our children in their schools to hate Jews, American, or even MUSLIMS. They might learn it from bad parents, or from bad friends, but not from our schools or the government, and certainly not in their church or synagogue.
When the day comes when NO terrorism is done by muslims, then your lame examples might hold some credence with us. Until then, please look in the mirror and clean up your own house first.
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exoflare
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Well, I know that in Palestine they were “punished” by celebrations in their honor, people dancing in the streets… 
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cestusdei
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I notice Ishare doesn’t want to take me up on the offer of going to a public Mass in Saudi Arabia. Wonder why?
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Semper_Fi_1
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Eric Rudolph was not a Catholic – certainly not a practicing one. The Christian Identity movement is not Christian. It doesn’t hold to any precepts of the Christian religion at all. Their main doctrines believes Jesus was a white guy who came to destroy the Jews who are the spawn of Satan, which is the anti-thesis of Christianity.
Certainly there are Fundamentalist Christians who are terrorists, such as those that go and bomb abortion clinics. However, most Christians denounce these scumbags. Most Muslims do not denounce Muslim terrorists and the % per capita for terrorism is far greater in the Islamic religion than in the Christian religion.
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slyboots
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**Ishare **is no longer on the forum. I received a pm from the poster saing their account was being closed. So he won’t be answering your posts.
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Libertas
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How convenient.
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slyboots
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Apparently Ishare did not understand the forum rules.
However, this thread has posts from Arab who does seem to speak well to the questions asked of him. Hopefully he will be back.
However, this thread has posts from Arab who does seem to speak well to the questions asked of him. Hopefully he will be back.
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cestusdei
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Arab never answered my question. Ishare was just an apologist for Islamic terrorism. Pro was his cheering section. That’s how I see this thread.
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Montalban
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Moslems and Mormons are so sure that the Bible just must have been corrupted.
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Booklover
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Just to set the record straight, since ISYD is not the only Muslim that has brought up Hitler to denounce Christianity, I’m posting the following to show that Islam is more akin to Nazism and to refute their claims that Hitler committed all those crimes because he was a “Christian”!
Though Hitler was certainly no Muslim, he did have an affinity for the Islamic religion, which he compared favourably against the Christianity in Germany. Albert Speer, Hitler’s wartime Minister of Armaments and Munitions, records in his memoirs*,*
*"Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of Arabs. When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France into Central Europe during the eighth century, his visitors had told him, they had been driven back at the Battle of Tours. **Had the Arabs won this battle, the world would be Mohammedan today. For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. **The Germanic peoples would have become heirs to that religion. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. *
Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.
"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking, 'You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness.
This does not, of course, really amount to any more than idle speculations on Hitler’s part. However, they do show that Hitler saw in Islam something which he found more to his liking than what he saw in Christianity. He was attracted by the penchant for violence that is the most outward manifestation of Islamic theology, and as seen in the link above, there was also the common connexion of Jew-hatred which the Nazi party had with Muslim leaders in the Arab world at that time. Indeed, while Nazi anti-Semitism is quite well known, one point which has not been remarked upon as often is that the Nazi hatred of Christianity also stemmed from anti-Semitic roots, due to the belief on the part of Hitler than Christianity (and its “child” Bolshevism) was the result of a deliberate conspiracy on the part of the Jews,
"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together…The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity…Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."6
Hitler likewise iterated this belief later in that same year,
*"Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer… The decisive falsification of Jesus’ doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work… for the purposes of personal exploitation… Didn’t the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it’s in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea."7
studytoanswer.net/islam/hitlerislam.html
Though Hitler was certainly no Muslim, he did have an affinity for the Islamic religion, which he compared favourably against the Christianity in Germany. Albert Speer, Hitler’s wartime Minister of Armaments and Munitions, records in his memoirs*,*
*"Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of Arabs. When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France into Central Europe during the eighth century, his visitors had told him, they had been driven back at the Battle of Tours. **Had the Arabs won this battle, the world would be Mohammedan today. For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. **The Germanic peoples would have become heirs to that religion. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. *
Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.
"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking, 'You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness.
This does not, of course, really amount to any more than idle speculations on Hitler’s part. However, they do show that Hitler saw in Islam something which he found more to his liking than what he saw in Christianity. He was attracted by the penchant for violence that is the most outward manifestation of Islamic theology, and as seen in the link above, there was also the common connexion of Jew-hatred which the Nazi party had with Muslim leaders in the Arab world at that time. Indeed, while Nazi anti-Semitism is quite well known, one point which has not been remarked upon as often is that the Nazi hatred of Christianity also stemmed from anti-Semitic roots, due to the belief on the part of Hitler than Christianity (and its “child” Bolshevism) was the result of a deliberate conspiracy on the part of the Jews,
"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together…The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity…Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."6
Hitler likewise iterated this belief later in that same year,
*"Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer… The decisive falsification of Jesus’ doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work… for the purposes of personal exploitation… Didn’t the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it’s in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea."7
studytoanswer.net/islam/hitlerislam.html
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artist3189
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Well, this may possibly be, the most ridiculous defense posted on any of these sites, to date, and I mean this. If someone has to pull, ‘INDIVIDUALS’ out of historical context to use as PROOF OF ERROR for an entire religion, well, they surely are grasping for straws here. To call Hitler a ‘Christian’ or ‘Eric Rudolph’ a Catholic and somehow believe that that proves anything other than these people were mad or evil is laughable. Is that the best you can do? Are you telling us that any person, ever, who acted maliciously, is acting in one accord with their religion, if they in fact are practicing any at all? That any individual person, who act irrationally, is a representation of an entire religious theology? Stupidity. Let’s talk about real theology, as PROFESSED BY THAT RELIGION,** as **TAUGHT BY THAT RELIGION, as PRACTICED BY THE RELIGON. The contrast of the writings of Mohammad in his early revelations, until his later ones, both as presented in the Q’uran, are striking. Islam is a religion that *embraces *violence, WHEN NECESSARY, and no Muslim, other than a radical one, is comfortable with that truth, but it remains, the truth. Christ’s message was very different, than that of the corrupted religion later spread by Islamic Empires. No one person, not Hitler, not Pat Roberston,(who is crazy), not Eric Rudolph, can change the fundamental expression of Christian teaching. Men, bad men, may seek to destroy or change it, BUT MAN is not center of Christianity, Christ is. His teachings and Mohammad’s teachingS are at odds with each other. Is only rational, thinking people that can allow these two things to CO-EXSIST together. Unfortunately, at this time is history, Islam is in flux, in disarray and thrives mainly in desperate parts of the world, which only fuels it’s more orthodox adherence. Many Muslims now feel that the 'softening’ of Islamic law and teaching has caused ‘God’ to abandon them and only through strict adherence to the Q’uran, can they find ‘Gods’ favor. That, spells trouble for ALL non-Muslims, period.Dear Montalban,
You said:"It’s not IshareYoudecide’s mission here to answer questions, but to attack Christianity. That’s why he’s **avoiding your questions ****and insisting on a relativist argument…
1-**To tell you the truth, I’m a business owner (3 kids), so I’ve a busy schedule. I am not a RETIRED fat pig sitting on an EXTRA LARGE sofa (Special Size) and posting here…these post were made over the weekend.
2-No one can answer hundreds of post per day. I try to answer when I can. I assure you that I am not and will never avoid any question. And I am very honest on my answers. If I cannot answer I will let you know.
3-“and insisting on a relativist argument”: Well, I like to talk about this subject.
Are you trying to avoid talking about the Catholic Terrorism? Right? Yes, you are. You ALL can’t handle it. I have more and more about the Christian (Catholic) terrorist, old and new. Of course, at your Churches you hide it and even here, in a nice polite Christian WAY you are asking me to SHUT UP. I am not going to SHUT-UP…unless you do about Islam.
To All (Catholic Terrorist): Am I clear? If not, I will explain with more Catholic Terrorism News…
4-“but even more so given that Hitler was not a Christian)”: You did not give me anything, I gave you what Hitler said: “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter…” he is saying I am Christian and ALL of you are saying No, he isn’t…
Well, I am a Muslim, why don’t you say: “No, you’re not”.
Anyway, I will give it to you as a BONUS “Hitler is not Christian” so no hard feeling…
How about Eric Robert Rudolph the Catholic Terrorist?
Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American domestic Christian terrorist [1][2] who committed a series of bombings across the southern United States, which killed three people and injured at least 150 others. Rudolph is a Catholic,[3] but according to CNN was also “connected with the Christian Identity movement, a militant, racist, and anti-Semitic organization.”[4] He declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion, what he describes as “the homosexual agenda,” and perceived support for it from the United States government. He spent years as the FBI’s most wanted criminal fugitive, but was eventually caught. In 2005 Rudolph pled guilty to numerous federal and state homicide charges and accepted five consecutive life sentences in exchange for avoiding a trial and the death penalty.
To All: Please, do not tell me he is not a Catholic!!!
Thank you,
ISYD
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meedo
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In all sincerity, muslims should suppoort Justice against evil, regardless of faith.
Muslims do decry against evil and against injsutice. But it is not their job alone to stop evil and injustice.
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inJESUS
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Assalamu Alaykun Ya Arabi
I beg to differ on this issue ; the Christians respected in Islam are the ones who believe Jesus is only a prophet and Muhammad is a prophet. The real Christians , not Nasara, are US who believe Jesus is God. We orthodox Christians are going to hell, and Allah’s curse is upon us, according to the Quran.
Number 2, The Quran says Mary used to eat food, like Jesus, which implies that both are not God, and not, as you said, a refutation to Catholics who ask for the intercession of Mary. After all, there IS intercession in the Quran. Allah accepts the intercession of whom he wills, am sure he will accept Mary’s.
Wassalam.
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proudcatholic2
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My account was suspended 3 times (Now they blocked my IP, so I can’t even access this site, Why all this?) because Catholics hate me for saying that there is such a thing as a Catholic (Christian) Terrorist. Some hate me because I am a Muslim (remember Jesus Loves us All). To those who are angry with me I say that I am very sorry, but I had to tell the truth, and believe me I feel your pain (It hurts). For those who say there is no such a thing as a Catholic (Christian) terrorist I have no apology at all.
You must face it, Catholic (Christian) terrorist exist…and here we go again, very sad news:
Thursday, 8 September 2005
Rwanda
Several Rwandan priests (Catholic Terrorists) and nuns have been convicted of participating in the killing of some 800,000 minority Tutsis and moderate Hutus.
For details, please visit: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/africa/4225366.stm
Feel free to email me your questions: proudcatholic@minister.com
Seek the truth, tell it but do not hide it. I Share You Decide
You must face it, Catholic (Christian) terrorist exist…and here we go again, very sad news:
Thursday, 8 September 2005
Rwanda
Several Rwandan priests (Catholic Terrorists) and nuns have been convicted of participating in the killing of some 800,000 minority Tutsis and moderate Hutus.
For details, please visit: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/africa/4225366.stm
Feel free to email me your questions: proudcatholic@minister.com
Seek the truth, tell it but do not hide it. I Share You Decide
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inJESUS
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the Quran says “do not say trinity” BECAUSE GOD IS ONE. Whoever wrote the Quran thought that Trinity does not mean One God, hence he’s wrong. As to having a son, it’s not physical, hence another time the Quran is wrong.
God is not one of 3, yet another mistake in the Quran.
Do you believe Allah’s Word is created? if not, then both Allah and His Word are not created, does it make them 2 gods?
Sahih Bukhari disagrees
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Catholic_Dude
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We never said Christians could never do evil thigns like terrorism, what we are saying is that such acts are inherently UnChristian, the Catholic Church condemns such acts, whether the “Christian Terrorist” likes it or not they are in a state of grave sin for murder. Christians who do that kind of evil are condmned and are seen as WORSE than non-Christian terrorists.
The question is, is the same condemnation given by Muslims when Mustlim Terrorists commit such acts?
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