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Firstly, I apologise for the lateness of this reply.
however the nonsense you posted about ‘early Islamic scholars’ can’t go without my reply. It is false. The majority of scholars over the majority of Islamic history have said she was nine years old. Only in the 1800s did an Indian Moslem decide to ‘review’ this issue in order to offer up an apology to his British friends.
Habib ur Rahman Kandhalwi (urdu) as presented in his booklet, “Tehqiq e umar e Siddiqah e Ka’inat”, Anjuman Uswa e hasanah, Karachi, Pakistan
understanding-islam.com/ri/mi-004.htm#1
MAULANA MUHAMMAD ALI, the author cited by The_true_path lived in the late 1800s. He was a modernist; educated in Britain.
"His editorials played a critical role in molding the political outlook of modern India. "
cyberistan.org/islamic/mmali.htm
As such he was an apologist for Islam; wishing to make it more palatable to his western educated audience. This was his raison d’etre, as is yours, to provide a false idea of Islam, based on recent conjecture.
"It appears that Maulana Muhammad Ali was the first Islamic scholar directly to challenge the notion that Aisha was aged six and nine, respectively, at the time of her nikah and consummation of marriage"
muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
(emphasis added)
Thus the confession at the top of your site; because historically, Aisha has been accepted as being nine when the marriage was consummated.
He continues this novel approach with statements such as…
“In my opinion, the age of Ayesha (ra) has been grossly mis-reported in the ahadith. Not only that, I think that the narratives reporting this event are not only highly unreliable but also that on the basis of other historical data, the event reported, is quite an unlikely happening. Let us look at the issue from an objective stand point.”
(Ibid).
Wiki links a modern apologist M. A. Muqtedar Khan, and if you read about him you’ll find that he himself is not without controversey - and that he’s a promoter of a ‘liberal’ Islam.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqtedar_Khan
Thus most Moslems themselves INSIST that she was nine!
"Of the four ahâdîth in Sahîh al-Bukhari, two were narrated from cAishah (7:64 and 7:65), one from Abû Hishâm (5:236) and one via 'Ursa (7:88). All three of the ahâdîth in Sahîh Muslim have cAishah as a narrator. Additionally, all of the ahâdîth in both books agree that the marriage betrothal contract took place when cAishah was “six years old”, but was not consummated until she was “nine years old”. Additionally, a hadîth with the same text (matn) is reported in Sunan Abû Dâwûd. Needless to say, this evidence is - Islamically speaking - overwhelmingly strong and Muslims who deny it do so only by sacrificing their intellectual honesty, pure faith or both.
This evidence having been established, there doesn’t seem much room for debate about cAishah’s age amongst believing Muslims. Until someone proves that in the Arabic language “nine years old” means something other than “nine years old”, then we should all be firm in our belief that she was “nine years old” (as if there’s a reason or need to believe otherwise!?!). In spite of these facts, there are still some Muslim authors that have somehow (?) managed to push cAishah’s age out to as far as “fourteen or fifteen years old” at the time of her marriage to the Prophet(P). It should come as no surprise, however, that none of them ever offer any proof, evidence or references for their opinions. This can be said with the utmost confidence, since certainly none of them can produce sources more authentic than the hadîth collections of Imâms al-Bukhârî and Muslim! Based on the research that I’ve done, I feel that there is a common source for those who claim that cAishah’s age was “fourteen or fifteen years old” at the time of the marriage. This source is The Biographies of Prominent Muslims which is published in book form, on CD-ROM and is posted in several places on the Internet. Just another example of why going to the sources is important . . ."
islamic-awareness.org/Polemics/aishah.html
(We concur with the general contents of the article.
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best Mufti Ebrahim Desai islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6618)
That it is disputed by some I don’t dispute
however the nonsense you posted about ‘early Islamic scholars’ can’t go without my reply. It is false. The majority of scholars over the majority of Islamic history have said she was nine years old. Only in the 1800s did an Indian Moslem decide to ‘review’ this issue in order to offer up an apology to his British friends.Habib ur Rahman Kandhalwi (urdu) as presented in his booklet, “Tehqiq e umar e Siddiqah e Ka’inat”, Anjuman Uswa e hasanah, Karachi, Pakistan
understanding-islam.com/ri/mi-004.htm#1
MAULANA MUHAMMAD ALI, the author cited by The_true_path lived in the late 1800s. He was a modernist; educated in Britain.
"His editorials played a critical role in molding the political outlook of modern India. "
cyberistan.org/islamic/mmali.htm
As such he was an apologist for Islam; wishing to make it more palatable to his western educated audience. This was his raison d’etre, as is yours, to provide a false idea of Islam, based on recent conjecture.
"It appears that Maulana Muhammad Ali was the first Islamic scholar directly to challenge the notion that Aisha was aged six and nine, respectively, at the time of her nikah and consummation of marriage"
muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
(emphasis added)
Thus the confession at the top of your site; because historically, Aisha has been accepted as being nine when the marriage was consummated.
He continues this novel approach with statements such as…
“In my opinion, the age of Ayesha (ra) has been grossly mis-reported in the ahadith. Not only that, I think that the narratives reporting this event are not only highly unreliable but also that on the basis of other historical data, the event reported, is quite an unlikely happening. Let us look at the issue from an objective stand point.”
(Ibid).
Wiki links a modern apologist M. A. Muqtedar Khan, and if you read about him you’ll find that he himself is not without controversey - and that he’s a promoter of a ‘liberal’ Islam.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqtedar_Khan
Thus most Moslems themselves INSIST that she was nine!
"Of the four ahâdîth in Sahîh al-Bukhari, two were narrated from cAishah (7:64 and 7:65), one from Abû Hishâm (5:236) and one via 'Ursa (7:88). All three of the ahâdîth in Sahîh Muslim have cAishah as a narrator. Additionally, all of the ahâdîth in both books agree that the marriage betrothal contract took place when cAishah was “six years old”, but was not consummated until she was “nine years old”. Additionally, a hadîth with the same text (matn) is reported in Sunan Abû Dâwûd. Needless to say, this evidence is - Islamically speaking - overwhelmingly strong and Muslims who deny it do so only by sacrificing their intellectual honesty, pure faith or both.
This evidence having been established, there doesn’t seem much room for debate about cAishah’s age amongst believing Muslims. Until someone proves that in the Arabic language “nine years old” means something other than “nine years old”, then we should all be firm in our belief that she was “nine years old” (as if there’s a reason or need to believe otherwise!?!). In spite of these facts, there are still some Muslim authors that have somehow (?) managed to push cAishah’s age out to as far as “fourteen or fifteen years old” at the time of her marriage to the Prophet(P). It should come as no surprise, however, that none of them ever offer any proof, evidence or references for their opinions. This can be said with the utmost confidence, since certainly none of them can produce sources more authentic than the hadîth collections of Imâms al-Bukhârî and Muslim! Based on the research that I’ve done, I feel that there is a common source for those who claim that cAishah’s age was “fourteen or fifteen years old” at the time of the marriage. This source is The Biographies of Prominent Muslims which is published in book form, on CD-ROM and is posted in several places on the Internet. Just another example of why going to the sources is important . . ."
islamic-awareness.org/Polemics/aishah.html
(We concur with the general contents of the article.
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best Mufti Ebrahim Desai islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6618)
