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[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Someone asked how we know Quran is uncorrupted ?

One of the ways to preserve Quran was memorization. To my knowledge there is not a single Christian who can recite the Bible from memory .

More than 10 million people living today (mostly non-Arabs) have memorized the Quran in the Arabic language on earth today.

Even ordinary Muslims memorized several verses as it’s a must to recite from Quran in daily prayers.

Anybody changes any single word of the Quran , we can catch him/her easily.

Suppose all the holy books are lost today . Only Muslims will be able to get back their holy book as it was before.

More info:

Eternal Miracle

Al-Quran is the only ever living miracle.

Today no other miracle of any prophet exists.

According to a survey, the** number of Huffaz (persons who have memorized the whole Quran) today is more than 10 million.**

Millions of editions and copies were printed and handwritten in almost every part of the world.

They were also translated into most of the languages of mankind. During the period of over 1400 years since the Quran was revealed, not a single letter was changed. This is one of the greatest miracles of the Quran.

islam101.com/dawah/WhatIsQuran.html

islamtomorrow.com/quran/

What non-Muslim Scientists said about Quran ?

Prof. Keith Moore

"It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allah

Prof. Alfred Kroner

"It is impossible [Muhammad] could have known about the common origin of the universe, scientists only found this out in the last few years using complicated and advanced techology

Prof. Tejatat Tejasen*

"I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means

 

[R_not]

Angelos, some foolish man had written adverse things about Muhammad and you are approving them. It means you are as bad as the writer.

How can muslims follow such a guy as mohammed who was a looter, a mass murderer, a marauding gangster, a pedophile, an assasin, a lustful womanizer, and what not. Muslims hear all that, and continue believing in him without blinking.

Maybe if that can be explained islam might make sense. But, it is all nonsensical. You blame the messenger (me) while the message of islam is… well, ‘to follow mohammed and do what he said and did’. It isn’t too much else than that.

 

[R_not]

Salaam/peace

Someone asked how we know Quran is uncorrupted ?

One of the ways to preserve Quran was memorization. To my knowledge there is not a single Christian who can recite the Bible from memory .

More than 10 million people living today (mostly non-Arabs) have memorized the Quran in the Arabic language on earth today.

Even ordinary Muslims memorized several verses as it’s a must to recite from Quran in daily prayers.

Anybody changes any single word of the Quran , we can catch him/her easily.

Suppose all the holy books are lost today . Only Muslims will be able to get back their holy book as it was before.

More info:

Eternal Miracle

Al-Quran is the only ever living miracle.

Today no other miracle of any prophet exists.

According to a survey, the** number of Huffaz (persons who have memorized the whole Quran) today is more than 10 million.**

islam101.com/dawah/WhatIsQuran.html

islamtomorrow.com/quran/

What non-Muslim Scientists said about Quran ?

Prof. Keith Moore

"It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allah

Prof. Alfred Kroner

"It is impossible [Muhammad] could have known about the common origin of the universe, scientists only found this out in the last few years using complicated and advanced techology

Prof. Tejatat Tejasen*

"I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means

To memorize something that no one is allowed to question is not a better way to base what religion is better than another.

If the koran was recorded 1400 years ago and you think because of that it is the truth - logic and reason must follow that the Bible which is much older is even more truthful. But, you cannot believe that because mohammed said it was screwed up. What if mohammed was wrong? He was wrong on so many thing that he would change allah’s mind. that is why there are abrogated surahs in the koran.

The koran was also written years AFTER mohammed died. And it is based on people’s memorize while the Bible was not. The people knew how to write during and the bible is based on written manuscripts.

"there are 25,000 ancient Bible parchments, scrolls, fragments, and letters testifying to the immediacy and accuracy of today’s Judeo-Christian scriptures. Yet the only archeological evidence that has survived from the Qur’an’s first century is a coin and an inscription inside the Dome of the Rock on the Jewish Temple Mount. These fragments differ from each other and from today’s book."

From a man named J.M. Rodwell, one of the early koran translators, **'Rodwell continues his analysis with these words: “It would seem as if Zaid put his materials together just as they came to him, and often with entire disregard to continuity of subject and uniformity of style. The text, therefore, assumes the form of a most unreadable and incongruous patchwork, and conveys no idea whatever of the development and growth of any plan in the mind of the founder of Islam, or of the circumstances by which he was surrounded and influenced.” Then after praising Zaid for his lack of “tampering” Rodwell adds that it is “deeply regrettable that no contemporary provided any historical reference, suppressed contradictory verses, or excluded inaccurate statements.”

Therefore, even in the best possible light, the Qur’an as first assembled was a mess. It was out of order, jumbled together, contradictory, and inaccurate. Yet there is no proof that even this best-case scenario is reliable. There is no corroborating evidence that the “revelations” actually became a book under Bakr, Umar, or Zaid. There are no fragments or tablets. All we have is a flimsy oral tradition suggesting that this best-case scenario occurred. There isn’t even a letter or a historical reference from any of the literate nations conquered by the first Muslim warriors to suggest that the Qur’an existed.’**

Keep in mind that the earliest ones who memorized the koran were being killed on the battle fields.

*'The Islamic scripture, however, was all based upon long lines of oral tradition. No copy of the Qur’an dated to within a hundred years of the prophet’s death survives. The oldest Hadith manuscript is two hundred years removed from the events it chronicles. Islam’s dark past is addressed at length in the “Source Material” appendix.

Muslim Traditions allege that the Qur’an first became a book at the direction of Abu Bakr, Muhammad’s father-in-law, during the War of Compulsion. We are told that the first Caliph feared that Muhammad’s divine revelations would be lost because most of the best “reciters” had become warriors. According to a lone Hadith, Umar, the second Caliph, convinced Bakr that something had to be done. The fleeting memories of Jihad fighters were the sole repositories of the Qur’an, and they were being killed at an alarming rate. The loss of most or all of Muhammad’s “revelation” was imminent. Legend has it that Zaid, a native of Medina and one of the prophet’s helpers, was assigned the task. He “gathered together the fragments of the Qur’an from every quarter, from date leaves, bones, stone, and from the breasts of men.”’*

I should mention that the ‘source material’ appendix is in this website:
prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Islams_Dark_Past.Islam

I cut and pasted the other stuff from this website:
prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_06_Heart_of_Darkness.Islam

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace;

some more info on Quran :

Is Satan the Author of the Qur’an?

A friend of mine shared an article with me from the Internet. It was entitled “The Qur’an is Written by Satan.”

This made me laugh, for, indeed, every time a Muslim recites the Qur’an, he is recommended by the Qur’an itself to say, “I seek refuge in Allah from the cursed Devil.”

Also, the last chapter of the Qur’an teaches Muslims how to protect themselves from the Devil-Satan who is described as the “sneaking whisperer.” Since that is the case, how can Satan be the author of the Qur’an?

Here are some Qur’anic quotations that show the role of the Devil:

"O you who believe!

Follow not the footsteps of the Devil, for those who follow the footsteps of the Devil, he commands lewdness and evil."

(An-Nur: 21)

“And if the Devil should cause you to forget, sit not after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrong doers.”
(Al-An`am: 68)

About the Virgin Mary and her son Jesus Christ the Qur’an says:

“And I crave your protection for her and for her offspring from the outcast devil.” (Aal `Imran: 36)

…To conclude, the Qur’an is the divine revelation to man, but this is not the first time that Allah spoke to man.

Many scriptures reflected this before the Qur’an; however, they were either lost or changed. It is not strange that Allah says in the Qur’an:

“It is We, only We, who have sent down the Remembrance (the Qur’an), and it is We who will protect it.” (Al-Hijr: 9)

theislampath.com/smf/index.php?topic=2988.0

 

[Malgosia]

** Torah became extinct during the attack on Jerusalem by the baylonian king. He took away the prisnors and the sacred things. There was no book left.**

Then some one who was born in captivity wrote the Torah by his mind (by rememberance). He rebuilt the book. That could never be the exact Torah.

Which attack on Jerusalem are you referring to? Jews spread all over the world. I have mentioned that before: the oldest Jewish settlement was found in India. They all had their scriptures with them since this was not just their holy book, this was their Law. It is absolutelly impossible to have all scriptures destroyed by the attack on only 1 city.

Now about the bible NT. There has been much written about Muhammad being illiterate. I believe Jesus was also illiterate in the sense that he never wrote anything himself. Nor did he tell any one directly to write anything. So where is the bible (injeel) i.e. the messages Jesus received from his God? It is nowhere.

Yet even your Koran says that Christians had their holy book. By this statement you deny something in the Koran.

There is only the life sketch (biography, short history) of Jesus life in the bible NT. That is only three year period, very short period compared to Moses or Muhammad.

Some people accomplish more in 1 hour than others in a lifetime.
Jesus did not live to be a ripe old age because HE DIED FOR OUR SINS WHEN HE WAS STILL YOUNG. Both Moses and Muhammad died of natural causes.

WE do not have to say that bible is corrupted. There is no real thing. So whatever is with the people, we have to make do with it in order to understand what Jesus had been doing.

So according to you: there never were any Christian scriptures. See my response above: Koran says there were Christian scriptures. And you know what’s “with the people” - the New Testament as we have it today.
Yet you claim that it has been corrupt although it did not exist

Planten, stop making things up, twisting the facts and bending the truth.

 

[R_not]

Salaam/peace;

some more info on Quran :

Is Satan the Author of the Qur’an?

A friend of mine shared an article with me from the Internet. It was entitled “The Qur’an is Written by Satan.”

This made me laugh, for, indeed, every time a Muslim recites the Qur’an, he is recommended by the Qur’an itself to say, “I seek refuge in Allah from the cursed Devil.”

Also, the last chapter of the Qur’an teaches Muslims how to protect themselves from the Devil-Satan who is described as the “sneaking whisperer.” Since that is the case, how can Satan be the author of the Qur’an?

Here are some Qur’anic quotations that show the role of the Devil:

"O you who believe!

Follow not the footsteps of the Devil, for those who follow the footsteps of the Devil, he commands lewdness and evil."

(An-Nur: 21)

“And if the Devil should cause you to forget, sit not after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrong doers.”
(Al-An`am: 68)

About the Virgin Mary and her son Jesus Christ the Qur’an says:

“And I crave your protection for her and for her offspring from the outcast devil.” (Aal `Imran: 36)

…To conclude, the Qur’an is the divine revelation to man, but this is not the first time that Allah spoke to man.

Many scriptures reflected this before the Qur’an; however, they were either lost or changed. It is not strange that Allah says in the Qur’an:

“It is We, only We, who have sent down the Remembrance (the Qur’an), and it is We who will protect it.” (Al-Hijr: 9)

theislampath.com/smf/index.php?topic=2988.0

actually, see post #243, and you will see that it was the koran that had more lost than the Bible.

The Bible had ‘25,000 ancient Bible parchments, scrolls, fragments, and letters testifying to the immediacy and accuracy of today’s Judeo-Christian scriptures’ while the koran had the oral hand-me-downs, 100-200 years later, and not even written by those closest to him.

All you are doing by bringing this fallacy about the koran up is reinforcing, to me, the validity of the Bible and the fallacy of the koran. the more one digs into islam the more one finds errors and discrepencys.

 

[Angelos]

Someone asked how we know Quran is uncorrupted ?

One of the ways to preserve Quran was memorization. To my knowledge there is not a single Christian who can recite the Bible from memory .

More than 10 million people living today (mostly non-Arabs) have memorized the Quran in the Arabic language on earth today.

Even ordinary Muslims memorized several verses as it’s a must to recite from Quran in daily prayers.

Anybody changes any single word of the Quran , we can catch him/her easily.

This theory of yours is irrelevant to the topic of the Koran’s supposed perfect preservation since it is concerned with today’s Muslims who can recite the Koran by heart, not with the Muslims of Mohammad’s period. It is true that any attempt to modify the Koran can be prevented today with the help of innumerable Korans available. However, the same thing cannot be said about the original Koran of Mohammad’s period since the Surahs and verses of the Islamic scripture were compiled in a single book only after Mohammad’s death.

More, Muslims can detect and prevent mistaken recitations because they have the written Koran as their checklist today. Nevertheless, it was almost impossible for the Muslims of Mohammad’s time to know for sure if the recitation was accurate or not due to the lack of a written text. Muslim scholars might claim that Mohammad checked and authorised every single recitation very often, but this assertion has no evidence.

Through a very simple example, I shall try to show you that the ones memorising the Koran before its final compilation made mistakes and caused textual variations in the text:

Surah 20:70
Then the wizards were (all) flung down prostrate, crying: We believe in the Lord of Aaron and Moses.

Surah 7:120-122

And the wizards fell down prostrate, Crying: We believe in the Lord of the Worlds, The Lord of Moses and Aaron.

Surah 26:46-48
And the wizards were flung prostrate, Crying: We believe in the Lord of the Worlds, The Lord of Moses and Aaron.

Of the verses quoted above, the odd one out is the first one, which modifies the order of the phrase “the Lord of Moses and Aaron”. The only one to be blamed for this textual variation in the Koran is a Muslim who confused the order of the words in that phrase and whose recitation remained comparatively erroneous.

What non-Muslim Scientists said about Quran ?

Prof. Keith Moore

"It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allah

Prof. Alfred Kroner

"It is impossible [Muhammad] could have known about the common origin of the universe, scientists only found this out in the last few years using complicated and advanced techology

Prof. Tejatat Tejasen*

"I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means

Could you please elaborate on this and show which verses of the Koran those “non-Muslim scientists” consider miraculous?

 

[planten]

Which attack on Jerusalem are you referring to? Jews spread all over the world. I have mentioned that before: the oldest Jewish settlement was found in India. They all had their scriptures with them since this was not just their holy book, this was their Law. It is absolutelly impossible to have all scriptures destroyed by the attack on only 1 city.

I am sorry. You should be knowing that babylonian king by the name Nebuchednazer. That was the big attack on the Jewish temple built by King Soloman. Original things were taken away and many prisnors too.

Yet even your Koran says that Christians had their holy book. By this statement you deny something in the Koran

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**Yes, Quran says that Jesus was taught the Torah by God and he was given the Injeel (The bible). But it is the Quran which is telling that the followers corrupted the bible. They lost the real message of Jesus. **.

Some people accomplish more in 1 hour than others in a lifetime.
Jesus did not live to be a ripe old age because HE DIED FOR OUR SINS WHEN HE WAS STILL YOUNG. Both Moses and Muhammad died of natural causes

.

That is right. But good work takes long time. WE believe that Muhamamd was like Moses, both a prophet of God. jesus was never the like of Moses. Moses and Muhammad did not die on the cross but died a natural death. They both had mother and father. Jesus did not have any father.

So according to you: there never were any Christian scriptures. See my response above: Koran says there were Christian scriptures. And you know what’s “with the people” - the New Testament as we have it today.
Yet you claim that it has been corrupt although it did not exist

Planten, stop making things up, twisting the facts and bending the truth.

I am not making up things. There were christian scriptures. You have them with you now. They are in the process of modification everyday for the sake of improvement. So please see the hell the writers are playing with the scripture (your original holy scripture). It is no more holy.

 

[Angelos]

I am sorry. You should be knowing that babylonian king by the name Nebuchednazer. That was the big attack on the Jewish temple built by King Soloman. Original things were taken away and many prisnors too.
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SO WHAT??? How you can conclude that the original Torah was corrupted at that time when you have no evidence to support your allegations? Who taught you that the Jews lost the original Torah and replaced it with a false copy? Where did you read it? It is not in the Torah, and you cannot have learnt it from the Koran, which knows almost nothing about Jewish history!

Yes, Quran says that Jesus was taught the Torah by God and he was given the Injeel (The bible). But it is the Quran which is telling that the followers corrupted the bible. They lost the real message of Jesus.

You are being dishonest again and trying to conceal the truth. The Koran says Issa was taught both the Torah and the Gospel, and commands Christians to use their scripture (the Gospel!) for guidance (Surah 5:47). According to your false claim, God asks Christians to use a corrupted and false book for guidance. WOW! That IS something.

That is right. But good work takes long time. WE believe that Muhamamd was like Moses, both a prophet of God. jesus was never the like of Moses. Moses and Muhammad did not die on the cross but died a natural death. They both had mother and father. Jesus did not have any father.

Both Moses and Jesus were Jewish and Israelite unlike your Mohammad, who was a pagan of Mecca. There are also great similarities between Moses and Jesus’ infancy. We know nothing about Mohammad’s birth and infancy though.

I am not making up things. There were christian scriptures. You have them with you now. They are in the process of modification everyday for the sake of improvement. So please see the hell the writers are playing with the scripture (your original holy scripture). It is no more holy

The Koran is a distorted and false copy of the Bible.

 

[inJESUS]

Salaam/peace

Someone asked how we know Quran is uncorrupted ?

 

[cathopologist]

Muslim Woman, this is a Catholic forum and surely you know well-informed Catholics won’t fall for proselytizing attempts?

So far, you have avoided answering some really valid questions but instead relied on planten’s “rescue” attempts. Come on, you are relying on someone who thinks the Duh Vinci Code is a truthful insight into “Catholicism’s dark secrets and history” and a possible Qur’anist.

You may not be an expert on Islam, but you were bold enough to create a thread like this.

Expect more questions. Everytime you divert questions, you emphasize two main thoughts on everyone’s minds - the fallacies of your belief system and the fantasies of the person who “founded” your religion.

 

[Sister_Amy]

I ISLAM.

 

[Angelos]

I ISLAM.

It seems that you also being irrelevant.

 

[thedavidwilson]

**
Then some one who was born in captivity wrote the Torah by his mind (by rememberance). He rebuilt the book. That could never be the exact Torah.

**

I thought the quran was originally memorized and transmitted that way along with what was written on various scraps of bark and animal skin. Are you saying that the quran we have to today can never be the exact quran since it came from somebody’s (actually many peoples) memory? Or did the human memory improve by the time Mo came around.

 

[planten]

How can muslims follow such a guy as mohammed who was a looter, a mass murderer, a marauding gangster, a pedophile, an assasin, a lustful womanizer, and what not. Muslims hear all that, and continue believing in him without blinking.

Maybe if that can be explained islam might make sense. But, it is all nonsensical. You blame the messenger (me) while the message of islam is… well, ‘to follow mohammed and do what he said and did’. It isn’t too much else than that.

**Muhammad was a very wise man, a real man of God who stood the test of time against all the infidels. The Quran is his living miracle and it is full of miracles which are being known (discovered) today in this age too. The wonders and meanings of the Quran will not exhaust (run out) with time.

Just imagine the revelation in chapter two verses 142 onward about the change of Qiblah. The prophet was ordered to face the Qiblah in Makkah for all daily prayers and never to face any other direction.
So the prayer direction (and it was during the Asr prayer) was shifted to Ka’abah at once. Later there were mosques at different places. They all faced Makkah. How did anyone know that the religion will spread in all parts of the world and people will build mosques at all places and will need a unified direction to pray.?Who could foretell such a thing at that time! Was the prophet a magician?

See in the world now, how good is the system of mosques and prayer all over the world, in every continent. Who could foretell such a thing?**

 

[planten]

SO WHAT??? How you can conclude that the original Torah was corrupted at that time when you have no evidence to support your allegations? Who taught you that the Jews lost the original Torah and replaced it with a false copy? Where did you read it? It is not in the Torah, and you cannot have learnt it from the Koran, which knows almost nothing about Jewish history!

It is all well known part of history when Jerusalem was destroyed, the book was destroyed with it and people taken prisnors. The temple made by Soloman (the house of God) was pulled down by the forces of the baylonian king…

You are being dishonest again and trying to conceal the truth. The Koran says Issa was taught both the Torah and the Gospel, and commands Christians to use their scripture (the Gospel!) for guidance (Surah 5:47). According to your false claim, God asks Christians to use a corrupted and false book for guidance. WOW! That IS something.

**Isa (Jesus) was taught Torah and given the Injeel by his God. (He had a god to whom he prayed. ) But that was for his personal guidance. Not to be taken as a new law for any one. Because Jesus was not a law bearing prophet. **

Both Moses and Jesus were Jewish and Israelite unlike your Mohammad, who was a pagan of Mecca. There are also great similarities between Moses and Jesus’ infancy. We know nothing about Mohammad’s birth and infancy though.

**Jesus had nothing in common with Moses. Only he was a sub ordinate prophet under the Moses command and the last prophet of the Israelis. Everything about Muhammad’s life is well known. But nothing is known about the first 12 years Jesus spent in Egypt and nothing is known until Jesus became 30 years old when he suddenly started his ministery (preaching).

He was so tormented and opposed and ridiculed and punished that he could not do anything however he tried to help his people. In the end, he did not succeed in his mission at home and had to disappear within three years never to be seen or heard again.**

The Koran is a distorted and false copy of the Bible.

Quran is independent revealed book. It can’t be a copy of anything else because it is a wonderful book full of miracles. Any one can read bible and the Quran side by side and find the truth. The falsehood of bible will soon become evident.

 

[R_not]

**Muhammad was a very wise man, a real man of God who stood the test of time against all the infidels. The Quran is his living miracle and it is full of miracles which are being known (discovered) today in this age too. The wonders and meanings of the Quran will not exhaust (run out) with time.

Just imagine the revelation in chapter two verses 142 onward about the change of Qiblah. The prophet was ordered to face the Qiblah in Makkah for all daily prayers and never to face any other direction.
So the prayer direction (and it was during the Asr prayer) was shifted to Ka’abah at once. Later there were mosques at different places. They all faced Makkah. How did anyone know that the religion will spread in all parts of the world and people will build mosques at all places and will need a unified direction to pray.?Who could foretell such a thing at that time! Was the prophet a magician?

See in the world now, how good is the system of mosques and prayer all over the world, in every continent. Who could foretell such a thing?**

Well, it would be easy - killing off those who disagreed with him, enslaving the women and children and raping them and forcing them to bear children, terrorizing populations, not keeping peace treaties, etc - it is easy to see how mohammed’s flock grew. And they are doing it to this very day.

In parts of India, Africa, Asia - even in Europe - muslims are kidnapping non-muslim girls and forcing them to convert and forcing them to marry (which is enslavement and rape) is still happening.

Deceiving people as to what islam is - even happens on these threads - and it is happening to this very day. Bullying and threatening people, website owners, book stores, the media, schools, people who notice strange behavior of imams in air terminals, etc. - all are happening to this day. The muslims are even trying to go through the UN and tell other countries to make sure no one says anything (the truth) about islam.

jihadwatch.org/archives/019428.php

Here we have the UN and muslims trying to outlaw spreading of Christianity:
gto7.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/religion-of-piece-asking-un-to-criminalize-christianity/

Some of the worst abuses are done by muslims, but they got the UN to ban any criticism of islam when talking about the human rights abuses.
islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2008/08/un-bans-criticism-of-islam.html

Michigan Muslims Attack Freedom of Speech:
feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/LgXO/~3/366241501/michigan-muslims-attack-freedom-of.html

As usual the list goes on and grows each day to prove whatever point.

Kill, or silence, the ones who are on to what islam is all about - make sure to stop the others from their freedoms while islam grows. This is called fascism and is not new to the world.

 

[R_not]

Oh, and I don’t want to forget - taking churches and temples, and other peoples places of worship, and destroying them or converting them to mosques. Making sure that while the dhimmi population have accepted their subjugation - that they live in terrible conditions and their freedoms are no more and their churches cannot be built or repaired. Humiliate them every day, kidnap their children and force them to convert and marry (more slavery), or just kill them.

More terror and chaos.

Then make sure to claim victimhood. Make sure to put up a good show such as after muslims attack - make sure the rest think that it is the muslims who are being attacked, either by words or deeds, when it just isn’t true.

 

[R_not]

Wow, I found another article today. One where I just found out that muslims are even trying to brainwash boyscouts into islam.

frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=005A46C8-ECFD-4FDD-A68E-9E7E66436623

And you brag that you the imperialistic islam is expanding. yeah, through brainwashing our children. As the MSA (muslim student association) with ties to the muslim brotherhood are brainwashing our young people - now you try to brainwash children. Usually people find out about this sort of thing after the deed is done. Just like the parents find out about ‘praying like a muslim’ has happened. I certainly hope that equality is that the muslim children pray like a Christian, or pray like a Jew, or pray like a Buddhist, etc.

 

[cathopologist]

Quran is independent revealed book. It can’t be a copy of anything else because it is a wonderful book full of miracles. Any one can read bible and the Quran side by side and find the truth. The falsehood of bible will soon become evident.

Wrong. It will become evident to the reader that the Qur’an is nothing but a false teaching of what’s been already said in the Bible. Knowing that Islam arose about 600 years after Jesus’ crucifixion. Who would believe in a false prophet who claims to know Christianity better than those before him? Might as well become a Ba’hai.

I heard Islamic missionaries have been on their round-abouts in Australian prisons seeking to convert convicted criminals. I’m sure they will make great Muslims.