Ask about Islam

[Booklover]

Today I would like to discuss allah’s heaven based on the overly-sexed, old man - mohammed.

I wrote this on a different thread but think that bringing it up here to know a bit more about islam is very appropriate.

mohammed was not enlightened, nor was he exceedingly bright in anything other than the negative of life - war, stealing/looting, enslaving, lying, beating up women, and pediphilia, etc. He was very bright in waging warfare too. He was overly concerned with his own sexual pleasure, and he was concerned with amassing loot in the form of slaves and goods. Once he realized that he needed people to do his bidding in other things, and that a tax base would be good - he created the subjugated (dhimmi) peoples. We see all of this to this very day in islam. In fact, it is the only option that islam recognizes for non-muslims: death, conversion or subjugation.

islamic heaven

Their heaven isn’t much beyond eating and sex, either. And we think, and are told continually, it is only made up of 72 perpetual virgins for each jihadist to be raped. We never are told about the little boys. **Yep - allah sanctions pediphilia!!! **

**In sura: (52:24) Allah promises to supply young diamond-sparkling beautiful boys for some inhabitants of Islamic heavens. Some deceitful western living mullahs will argue that these boys are there to serve drinks to the pious inhabitants of the heavens and not for having sex by those Beduin homosexual Jihadi Martyrs. They also will argue that Koran did not specify that these Ghilman (young boys) will be used as sex partners by Martyrs, i.e., it was not said so in the Quran. Well, Koran also did not specify what those Martyrs/pious Muslims suppose to do with the wide-eyed, firmed, swollen breast, white skinned beautiful houris! Your parent gets you married a beautiful young lady, and parents never say what you suppose to do with your wife, do they? Decietful Mullah’s logic/excuse that these Ghilman could be there as the waiters just to serve drinks and food does not sound right. I don’t think it is the purpose of supplying young boys just to be the waiters. Waiters could be adult person instead of pearl-sparkling everlasting young boys! Is not it folks? **

Let us say these little boys are not for sex - why is it that muslims think that children should be condemned to serve them in any way for eternity? Or that women should only be sex slaves in heaven? It goes back to the slave trade that exists in islam to this very day - they have no problem thinking children should be enslaved in this life too. In fact, what they physically do to these little boys is horrorific. They do things against little girls too - don’t get me wrong, but the whole concept of heaven, slavery and sex - just extends right into their heaven.

Slavery in islam

Over and above all of this - this is all heaven is for them… some place to satisfy base, carnal pleasures that are associated with an earthly life.

So, basically women are to wear tents - or at the very least scarves. To be owned by the males in their family, to submit - in many cases - to men they do not love, or even to submit if they are children, to be the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th wife. With divorce so easy in islam - they could be the 13th, 14th, etc. wife. They have laws that do not protect them against ‘honor killings’, beatings, rape (and if your rapist didn’t bring along a bunch of fellows to tattle on him - you are the one to get stoned or hanged, and then you get to be a virgin forever and raped for eternity! There is nothing in heaven that mohammed conjured up for women other than that!

Recently an imam stated that women already wearing the burkha, should only show one eye in case showing two eyes make a man want to rape her! Is this ridiculous or what! And yet Muslims keep telling that Islam is good to women or that it’s"reasonable"!

Vickie

 

[Love_the_Lorax]

R_not:

The website you quote in your signature is so scary, but so right on! Yep, where I live we only have one Muslim family, and of course all is peaceful. Yet, to see what happens in countries where Muslims gain more and more control is frightful. I have never bought into Muslim Woman’s so called peace gestures because I don’t believe them, not based on what I see in the world around me. Doesn’t mean I hate them, as she would probably say about me, but I am scared of what they do to a country.

Someone else - I forget who - gave links to sites on YouTube showing how small children are taught to hate Jews, and then we are supposed to accept Islam as a peace loving religion? Uh, yeah, right…

One of them - Because They Hate. I have not read her other book, but I have read ‘A Never Ending War’ and have ordered Mr. Spencer’s book ‘Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs’.

Plus in frontpagemag.com (do a search in that website for ‘stealth jihad’) there are a few articles there about the same thing.

yeah, and the end - whether with guns or not - is the same in the end for us: death, conversion or subjugation. My signature shows a website that shows in every, single country muslims migrate to the percentage of them in a country before the violence starts.

I also belong to Act for America - Mrs. Gabriel’s organization.

 

[R_not]

Recently an imam stated that women already wearing the burkha, should only show one eye in case showing two eyes make a man want to rape her! Is this ridiculous or what! And yet Muslims keep telling that Islam is good to women or that it’s"reasonable"!

Vickie

Nowhere in islam does it teach the men to be responsible human beings. Instead it teaches that their dirty minds are due to women! and not only that, but little pre-pubescent little girls!!

There is something fundamentally wrong with all of this.

WHAT is holy about all of this? To be quite frank - I am repulsed by their idea of heaven. Nothing in islam is even remotely spiritual, uplifting, or anything!

 

[R_not]

R_not:

The website you quote in your signature is so scary, but so right on! Yep, where I live we only have one Muslim family, and of course all is peaceful. Yet, to see what happens in countries where Muslims gain more and more control is frightful. I have never bought into Muslim Woman’s so called peace gestures because I don’t believe them, not based on what I see in the world around me. Doesn’t mean I hate them, as she would probably say about me, but I am scared of what they do to a country.

Someone else - I forget who - gave links to sites on YouTube showing how small children are taught to hate Jews, and then we are supposed to accept Islam as a peace loving religion? Uh, yeah, right…

I have seen quite a number of them on youtube, including one that has a 12 year old boy beheading a grown man. I downloaded the unedited version to my computer - they still have the edited version on the internet.

One was particularly moving (well, that beheading was more sickening than anything!) was one of an Australian woman who figured out that the Palestinians are training little boys - 8-10 years old to be suicide bombers. She found their bodies in the same shape as suicide bombers. What the Palestinians are doing is saying the bodies were what the Israelis did to them - tortured them. It isn’t true. They are the ones who caused this to happen and what they do afterwards is using the dead bodies as propaganda (as we see so often, they did in the Lebanon/Israeli war).

In the Lebanon/israeli war the jihadists would hide among women and children, blow their bombs into israel, the Israelis would strike back - but after the big, brave jihadists fled. Then the jihadists would come back and parade the bodies around and blame the israelis - while it was their behavior and actions that caused these deaths.

children in islam

 

[rad]

Nowhere in islam does it teach the men to be responsible human beings. Instead it teaches that their dirty minds are due to women! and not only that, but little pre-pubescent little girls!!

There is something fundamentally wrong with all of this.

WHAT is holy about all of this? To be quite frank - I am repulsed by their idea of heaven. Nothing in islam is even remotely spiritual, uplifting, or anything!

The seven eleven store were i shop on occasion has a Bangladeshi woman working their ,she’s married to a pakistanian we talk about things sometimes about religion ,she mentioned the islamic heaven and the 72 hourisis to me…i asked her what is her reward in heaven,
She replied to stand by her husband …i said that doesn’t sound much like heaven for you to watch him enjoy himself with those hourises,…and you get nothing…
She Mentioned to me if that is heaven she rather go to hell instead…a eternity of watching her husband having a good time with those hourises would be a living hell for her…she’s finally is waking up and taking the blinder’s off her eyes about islamic faith…

 

[R_not]

The seven eleven store were i shop on occasion has a Bangladeshi woman working their ,she’s married to a pakistanian we talk about things sometimes about religion ,she mentioned the islamic heaven and the 72 hourisis to me…i asked her what is her reward in heaven,
She replied to stand by her husband …i said that doesn’t sound much like heaven for you to watch him enjoy himself with those hourises,…and you get nothing…
She Mentioned to me if that is heaven she rather go to hell instead…a eternity of watching her husband having a good time with those hourises would be a living hell for her…she’s finally is waking up and taking the blinder’s off her eyes about islamic faith…

Ask her where does it say that she would be allowed to stand by her husband no matter if he was or was not with his 72 virgins and little boys? I don’t recall anything mentioned for women other than the 72 virgins for the men.

 

[rad]

Ask her where does it say that she would be allowed to stand by her husband no matter if he was or was not with his 72 virgins and little boys? I don’t recall anything mentioned for women other than the 72 virgins for the men.

ill ask her when i see her…marriage last into eternity i would assume according to there belief ,if their married and they both died in a married state,i would also assume if there divorced in earthly life ,then in eternity there not married there either…i haven’seen her for a while maybe they went to pakistan or bangladesh on vacation…i did ask her if she got any of the boys in heaven she said no ,she stands by her man…husband…that is the reason she would prefer hell instead of heaven…

 

[Frank_J]

Hi Muslim Woman,

Your remark:
…a Muslim man is also allowed to marry a Jewish or Christian woman. It is obvious that one marries someone for love and friendship. If friendship between Muslims and Jews or Christians was forbidden, then why would Islam allow a Muslim man to marry a Jew or Christian woman?

My remark:
…Can a Christian Man marry a Muslim woman. It is obvious that one marries someone for love and friendship. If my mine recalls it is forbidden for a Christians man.to marry a Muslim woman.

Jizya is a humiliation tax to show submission to Islam. We in the U.S. would call this a shake down or protection money. It still means the same. Christians don’t need that kind of protection racket by the muslims so called protection.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi
dhimmi

Dhimmis were allowed to “practice their religion, but subject to certain strick conditions, and to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy” and guaranteed their personal safety and security of property, in return for paying tribute and acknowledging Muslim supremacy we know it as Jizya.

You asked tell how much Muslims must pay in Israel & do they enjoy the same facilities as Jews? It’s both Muslims and Jews duty to pay the taxes to protect the country. It’s not put on one and not the other. Jews treat Arab’s pretty good when it comes to laws protecting them. Israel is a Democratic elected government. I trust Israel to protect human rights but I can’t say that for Muslim countries. In any civilized country all citizens have a right to be free and are not to be viewed as second class citizens. Islam doesn’t a good reputation when it comes to treat people fair and equal. That is just a fact of life.

In Egypt the Copic Christians are forced to pay Jizya and if they can’t, then they have to convert to Islam whether forced conversion by violently it makes no differents.

You say that they are allowed to practice their religion, that is not totally true, they are not allow to build Church there is not freedom in Islamic Nation to try to grown the group in numbers

Lets us face the truth here that Islam is very violent relgion and makes war on non-Muslims. We see it today being played out in the Middle East and around the world. Muslim claim all of Europe lost land to Islam. So that means that they would fight and kill the Europeans for ejecting then from the European area 500 years ago. My family comes from Sicily and the Muslim invaded enslaved the populations and treated it like a war prize.

On my father side of the family, My grandmother family lived once lived in a town called Avella it was wiped out by Muslims. The women were raped by the Muslims soldiers and the men were killed and when they were finished with the woman they to were also killed. Muslims left nothing alive when they left that town. They did terrible things to the town people. My grandfather had to contact my father and ask him to go to the town to see what had happen. This took place in the mid-1940’s during World War II. When my grandmother found out what had happen to her family she went off the deep end. “Your group killed them.” Please don’t try to preach me that is Islam in a peaceful religion ask the families who lost love ones in that town. As a Christian I have to forgive sins of your forbears for GOD will not forgive my or mine.

Have a good day.

 

[rad]

Hi Muslim Woman,

Your remark:
…a Muslim man is also allowed to marry a Jewish or Christian woman. It is obvious that one marries someone for love and friendship. If friendship between Muslims and Jews or Christians was forbidden, then why would Islam allow a Muslim man to marry a Jew or Christian woman?

My remark:
…Can a Christian Man marry a Muslim woman. It is obvious that one marries someone for love and friendship. If my mine recalls it is forbidden for a Christians man.to marry a Muslim woman.

Jizya is a humiliation tax to show submission to Islam. We U.S. would call this a shake down or protection money. It still means the same. Christians don’t need that kind of protection racket come under so called protection racket.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi
dhimmi

Dhimmis were allowed to “practice their religion, but subject to certain strick conditions, and to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy” and guaranteed their personal safety and security of property, in return for paying tribute and acknowledging Muslim supremacy we know it as Jizya.

You asked tell how much Muslims must pay in Israel & do they enjoy the same facilities as Jews? It’s both Muslims and Jews duty to pay the taxes to protect the country. It’s not put on one and not the other. Jews treat Arab’s pretty good when it comes to laws protecting them. Israel is a Democratic elected government. I trust Israel to protect human rights but I can’t say that for Muslim countries. In any civilized country all citizens have a right to be free and are not to be viewed as second class citizens. Islam doesn’t a good reputation when it comes to treat people fair and equal. That is just a fact of life.

In Egypt the Copic Christians are forced to pay Jizya and if they can’t, then they have to convert to Islam whether forced conversion by violently it makes no differents.

You say that they are allowed to practice their religion, that is not totally true, they are not allow to build Church there is not freedom in Islamic Nation to try to grown the group in numbers

Lets us face the truth here that Islam is very violent relgion and makes war on non-Muslims. We see it today being played out in the Middle East and around the world. Muslim claim all of Europe lost land to Islam. So that means that they would fight and kill the Europeans for ejecting then from the European area 500 years ago. My family comes from Sicily and the Muslim invaded enslaved the populations and treated it like a war prize.

On my father side of the family, My grandmother family lived once lived in a town called Avella it was wiped out by Muslims. The women were raped by the Muslims soldiers and the men were killed and when they were finished with the woman they to were also killed. Muslims left nothing alive when they left that town. They did terrible things to the town people. My grandfather had to contact my father and ask him to go to the town to see what had happen. This took place in the mid-1940’s during World War II. When my grandmother found out what had happen to her family she went off the deep end. “Your group killed them.” Please don’t try to preach me that is Islam in a peaceful religion ask the families who lost love ones in that town. As a Christian I have to forgive sins of your forbears for GOD will not forgive my or mine.

Have a good day.

Sad to read that Brother…May Their Memory Be Eternal…Amen…
Blessed Rest Grant O Lord , That they May Be Counted Among Thy Just,Amen

 

[Frank_J]

Hi rad,

Thank you for your statement it was nice of you to say that.

GOD bless you.

 

[Love_the_Lorax]

Oh my… I am so sorry for what has happened to your family. I can’t even imagine the pain, especially as you watch what is happening in the rest of the world from Islamic violence. I will pray for you and your family tonight.

Hi Muslim Woman,

Your remark:
…a Muslim man is also allowed to marry a Jewish or Christian woman. It is obvious that one marries someone for love and friendship. If friendship between Muslims and Jews or Christians was forbidden, then why would Islam allow a Muslim man to marry a Jew or Christian woman?

My remark:
…Can a Christian Man marry a Muslim woman. It is obvious that one marries someone for love and friendship. If my mine recalls it is forbidden for a Christians man.to marry a Muslim woman.

Jizya is a humiliation tax to show submission to Islam. We in the U.S. would call this a shake down or protection money. It still means the same. Christians don’t need that kind of protection racket by the muslims so called protection.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi
dhimmi

Dhimmis were allowed to “practice their religion, but subject to certain strick conditions, and to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy” and guaranteed their personal safety and security of property, in return for paying tribute and acknowledging Muslim supremacy we know it as Jizya.

You asked tell how much Muslims must pay in Israel & do they enjoy the same facilities as Jews? It’s both Muslims and Jews duty to pay the taxes to protect the country. It’s not put on one and not the other. Jews treat Arab’s pretty good when it comes to laws protecting them. Israel is a Democratic elected government. I trust Israel to protect human rights but I can’t say that for Muslim countries. In any civilized country all citizens have a right to be free and are not to be viewed as second class citizens. Islam doesn’t a good reputation when it comes to treat people fair and equal. That is just a fact of life.

In Egypt the Copic Christians are forced to pay Jizya and if they can’t, then they have to convert to Islam whether forced conversion by violently it makes no differents.

You say that they are allowed to practice their religion, that is not totally true, they are not allow to build Church there is not freedom in Islamic Nation to try to grown the group in numbers

Lets us face the truth here that Islam is very violent relgion and makes war on non-Muslims. We see it today being played out in the Middle East and around the world. Muslim claim all of Europe lost land to Islam. So that means that they would fight and kill the Europeans for ejecting then from the European area 500 years ago. My family comes from Sicily and the Muslim invaded enslaved the populations and treated it like a war prize.

On my father side of the family, My grandmother family lived once lived in a town called Avella it was wiped out by Muslims. The women were raped by the Muslims soldiers and the men were killed and when they were finished with the woman they to were also killed. Muslims left nothing alive when they left that town. They did terrible things to the town people. My grandfather had to contact my father and ask him to go to the town to see what had happen. This took place in the mid-1940’s during World War II. When my grandmother found out what had happen to her family she went off the deep end. “Your group killed them.” Please don’t try to preach me that is Islam in a peaceful religion ask the families who lost love ones in that town. As a Christian I have to forgive sins of your forbears for GOD will not forgive my or mine.

Have a good day.

 

[cathopologist]

Someone else - I forget who - gave links to sites on YouTube showing how small children are taught to hate Jews, and then we are supposed to accept Islam as a peace loving religion? Uh, yeah, right…

I think it was me who posted one of those links. You can do a search on youtube and you’ll be shocked to find just how many videos of little children, all spewing hatred about Jews and Christians. Someone must be responsible for their upbringing - who do you blame? Mohammad and his religion or their parents?
**
Arabs brainwashed little girls to hate Jews**

**Children Taught to Hate Jews (Islamic Kids variety show)
**

 

[Frank_J]

Hi cathopologist,

You maybe looking for me. I was the one that had that Youtube on the kid. I have a lot of that stuff that I’ve collect over the time. It’s not to hard to find one must only look.

You stated:
You can do a search on Youtube and you’ll be shocked to find just how many videos of little children, all spewing hatred about Jews and Christians. Someone must be responsible for their upbringing - who do you blame? Mohammad and his religion or their parents?

Yes ! I agree with you, and it must be laid at the feet of Islam and the parents that believe in a faith that teaches them to kill.

youtube.com/watch?v=6W4dsvz5P-8&feature=related
Hitler and the Grand Mufti

youtube.com/watch?v=d0tdMoriQQg&feature=related
The NAZI mufti of Jerusalem

youtube.com/watch?v=HAq9PpCUgYU&feature=related
An Islamic Dr. in London Justifies Slaughtering

youtube.com/watch?v=gGpJC3f3UHk&feature=related
Palestinian Sheik: “Islam Will Rule U.S/U.K, Jews Are AIDS”

All one needs to see the hate and see the connections to the past with Nazi Germany. I have more if anyone wants me to look in my files that I keep on topics like this.

Have a good night.

GOD bless you.

Frank J

 

[Frank_J]

Hi Love the Lorax,

Thank you for your prayers.

It drives me nuts when I hear Pres. George Bush call Islam the religion of peace. I sometime want to stick my finger in my mouth and just vomit.

Have a good night and GOD bless you.

Frank J.

 

[SimonArizona]

Salaam:thankyou:

Why hatred for the Jews?

Why is it offensive for them to hold Jerusalem but they were there first for thousands of years?

Why Islam conquest to conquer Europe but Muslims lost to The Holy Crusaders of Pope Urban in the 1500’s AD. Does that show Islam that God has not granted them world domination?

With respect,
my difficult questions brother

 

[Frank_J]

Hi

More to watch on Islam.

youtube.com/watch?v=HfLvP2jTVq8&feature=related
Nazi-Muslim SS Division
youtube.com/watch?v=bNzTL4zu5Xg&feature=related
History Of The Bosnian Muslim Nazi 13th SS Handzar Division

Have a good night

 

[Frank_J]

youtube.com/watch?v=Wg3m3t87-dk&feature=related
brainwashed little muslim girl [must see] original

youtube.com/watch?v=2BIAYYwVuYM&feature=related
Another Brainwashed religious child

youtube.com/watch?v=9r5iLhreGEg&feature=related
Arabs educate for death

youtube.com/watch?v=Em-MnAYiEWk&NR=1
Teaching Children to die for Allah in Palestine and Lebanon

youtube.com/watch?v=-YWMby_z59s&feature=related
We should kick these sick from our society

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Frank J, the muslims on these threads refuse to read anything of ours.

I don’t read your posts anymore … just happened to see your this comment . let me explain why I don’t read your posts . It’s hard to tolerate so much hate . Before joining the Christians forums , I knew that many Christians don’t like us. But I had no idea how much they hate Islam & Muslims .

After reading the hateful posts of some Christians , first I try hard not to fall in to devil’s trap --that is start hating people of the holy book.

It’s a fun & may be the most fav . hobby of some Christians to use nasty words against our beloved Prophet (p). They know we can’t use nasty words against Jesus (p) & Mother Mary (p) because we love & respect them . They take the advantage & misusing this . It’s really sad.

 

[Jesusisgod]

Salaam/peace

I don’t read your posts anymore … just happened to see your this comment . let me explain why I don’t read your posts . It’s hard to tolerate so much hate . Before joining the Christians forums , I knew that many Christians don’t like us. But I had no idea how much they hate Islam & Muslims .

After reading the hateful posts of some Christians , first I try hard not to fall in to devil’s trap --that is start hating people of the holy book.

It’s a fun & may be the most fav . hobby of some Christians to use nasty words against our beloved Prophet (p). They know we can’t use nasty words against Jesus (p) & Mother Mary (p) because we love & respect them . They take the advantage & misusing this . It’s really sad.

Muslim Woman, If a man appears at your house and tells you that he is your real husband and the one inside your house is a fake and then he says that he respects you and loves your children, what will you do?

It’s equally sad right?..Sad not because you don’t show respect for this stranger, but because you have been challenged by the shameless stranger to show equal respect and stop taking advantage of him because he cannot use nasty words against you and your children.

What will you do? Invite him into your house or call the police? Where’s the problem??? Islam.

You see, Islam can NEVER be recognised as a legitimate religion by the non-muslims especially the christians because Jesus Christ Himself openly declared there are no more prophets in Luke 16:16, and John the Baptist is the last prophet. Neither does muhammad’s ‘annointment’ amount to any prophetic calling because God never speaks in a dark damp cave and never forces anybody to follow/recite. The ancient prophets when talking to God are always in glowing gowns, fiery clouds and ever so often with hundreds of witnesses.

To christians, muhammad is just a mad man, just like the stranger who appeared at your house and called himself your husband. Now do you still call for respect?

I’m sure you MUST have seen this thread, but just in case you didn’t : forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=274019

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[R_not]

Salaam/peace

I don’t read your posts anymore … just happened to see your this comment . let me explain why I don’t read your posts . It’s hard to tolerate so much hate . Before joining the Christians forums , I knew that many Christians don’t like us. But I had no idea how much they hate Islam & Muslims .

After reading the hateful posts of some Christians , first I try hard not to fall in to devil’s trap --that is start hating people of the holy book.

It’s a fun & may be the most fav . hobby of some Christians to use nasty words against our beloved Prophet (p). They know we can’t use nasty words against Jesus (p) & Mother Mary (p) because we love & respect them . They take the advantage & misusing this . It’s really sad.

Again - when we just show you your own koran and hadiths you call it hate and bashing. If you are admitting that they are so hateful - why do you follow islam?

I know more about your ‘prophet’ than you do. He was not a nice guy.

Anyway, I was told by you muslims a long time ago you weren’t reading the websites - way before you figured out I knew your koran and hadiths. So, that is why I will pull out and quote from them.

Here is the difference between what you find in the New Testament and the koran. Take note of the koranic passage - this is why when I read your posts of all this benevolence and kumbaya moments - I have to tell people that it doesn’t apply to non-muslims. What applies to us is one of these three things: death, conversion or subjugation. No islamic country, or sharia law, has proven otherwise and we are told time and again that muslims want to replace the laws of all the lands with sharia laws. And quite often you practice them anyway in our lands.

So, the hate is coming from the koran - not the Bible. I don’t see any muslim lands sending in their troops to STOP the jihadists from slaughtering Christians anywhere in this world, nor do I see any muslim lands, or group of muslims, rioting or carrying on poorly as they do with the cartoons or movies that just show the koran and hadiths.

**“Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you…” Matthew 5:44

“Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Qur’an, Sura 48:29.**

But, the more we learn about islam the more we realize that hate-love, murder-life, intolerance-tolerance, etc are skewed in islam.