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EvangelCatholic said:
I have another liturgical question for Anglicans. I’ve had the pleasure of worshiping in St John the Divine cathedral here in New York. As a Lutheran, I am very familiar with the usual eucharistic and non-eucharistic vestments but some other vestments were unfamiliar. Is there an Anglican/ Episcopalians who can explain the vestments in these photos?
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Looks like a full length surplice, with chimere and stole/tippet over it over it. I am willing to be corrected; I don’t attend many functions where the clergy vests primarily evangelically.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Looks like a full length surplice, with chimere and stole/tippet over it over it. I am willing to be corrected; I don’t attend many functions where the clergy vests primarily evangelically.

GKC
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I don’t think they’re so obviously evangelical vestments in the UK, just non-Eucharistic. They’re the standard dress for bishops when sitting in the Lords, for example.
 
GKC said:
Looks like a full length surplice, with chimere and stole/tippet over it over it. I am willing to be corrected; I don’t attend many functions where the clergy vests primarily evangelically.

GKC
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So only bishops vest as such? Vestments kept the clergy warm in those cold cathedrals; sort of the layered look.
 
EvangelCatholic said:
So only bishops vest as such? Vestments kept the clergy warm in those cold cathedrals; sort of the layered look.
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Traditionally, bishops were the only ones, AFAIK. And those low on the liturgical pole, at that.

But I have no idea what might or might not be accepted currently. It’s a moveable target.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Traditionally, bishops were the only ones, AFAIK. And those low on the liturgical pole, at that.

But I have no idea what might or might not be accepted currently. It’s a moveable target.

GKC
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Are vestments evolving? Any changes in your lifetime as an Anglican?
 
EvangelCatholic said:
Are vestments evolving? Any changes in your lifetime as an Anglican?
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Anglican mores are evolving. How that might be reflected in vestments is an open question. Certainly I’ve seen some rather unfortunate rainbow/ecological/felt-banner inspired bad decisions. Not in my parish or in my circles, you will understand. Just out there where the Anglicans roam the cutting edge.

GKC
 
GKC said:
The divisions are called “weeks”, I think; the basic organization of the beads being around Christ’s life. Your points are accurate, AFAIK. I’ve never seen one of them, though.

GKC
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The Nashotah House bookstore used to sell them. It’s been years since I’ve been there, but I suspect that they still do.
 
EvangelCatholic said:
So only bishops vest as such? Vestments kept the clergy warm in those cold cathedrals; sort of the layered look.
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I have a tippet and a hood from my days at Nashotah House. I would wear them as academic regalia, in the English fashion, because, regardless of my conversion to Catholicism, I earned my degree.

Of course, I would first have to FIND THEM! (Did I mention that I HATE moving?)
 
David_Zampino said:
I have a tippet and a hood from my days at Nashotah House. I would wear them as academic regalia, in the English fashion, because, regardless of my conversion to Catholicism, I earned my degree.

Of course, I would first have to FIND THEM! (Did I mention that I HATE moving?)
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12 major moves in my lifetime.

Try and find the books you want, afterwards.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Anglican mores are evolving. How that might be reflected in vestments is an open question. Certainly I’ve seen some rather unfortunate rainbow/ecological/felt-banner inspired bad decisions. Not in my parish or in my circles, you will understand. Just out there where the Anglicans roam the cutting edge.

GKC
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No changes over the years? Do Anglican priests still wear the maniple?
 
GKC said:
We have a student, at Nashotah House, currently.

GKC
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Feel free to give him my contact information. I’d love to stand him to a drink. (And you too, for that matter!)

Have discovered that my taste in pipe tobacco runs VERY strongly toward the English style/blends.
 
GKC said:
We have a student, at Nashotah House, currently.

GKC
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Is considered an outstanding seminary. Vicars in the LCMS would worship at Nashotah to stay connected to a rich prayer life.
 
EvangelCatholic said:
Is considered an outstanding seminary. Vicars in the LCMS would worship at Nashotah to stay connected to a rich prayer life.
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I spent 4+ extremely happy years of my life there. I know very little about the faculty there today; all have turned over except for the Choirmaster (who is excellent!)

If I have any skills as a teacher today (10 years at the university level, plus numerous assignments in my Archdiocese) it is because of Fr. David Deakle, Professor of NT and Historical Theology; he also guided me through 6 hours of Independent Study and directed my Thesis. A fine scholar, an excellent (and eccentric) genius, and a godly priest.

I once dreamed of being the Dean at a place like Nashotah House . . . beautiful stained glass in the chapel as well! St. Charles Stuart, King and Martyr!
 
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