ASK FATHER: Priest breaks the host during the consecration

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Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
Not what I’ve heard from elderly priests with unstable hands. Perhaps they were using a different brand, but I know that one reported that he feared breaking It during elevation, as he had done it once or twice. I think there are many factors and one shouldn’t automatically jump to the priest doing something wrong.
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An “elderly priest” who had done it “once or twice”

Out of how many thousands of Masses he must have celebrated?

Obviously, an accident.

Benefit of the doubt only goes so far. We all know that what is being discussed here is doing it intentionally.

And we all know that there are indeed priests out there who do this intentionally. And there’s no excusing them.
 
Are we saying that the priest is not to beak the host prior to the elevation?

I recall seeing priests hold together two halves of the host quite often.
 
The elevation during the consecration: No.
The elevation during the Agnus Dei: Yes.
 
Yes, it can happen by accident, most certainly…though we’re talking a rare event for sure (and I have lived in Europe as well as America and seen thin hosts on both continents).

It can also happen deliberately, and that is the practice Father Zuhlsdorf is rightly condemning.
 
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FrDavid96 said:
Obviously, an accident.

Benefit of the doubt only goes so far. We all know that what is being discussed here is doing it intentionally.
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What motivation would lead a priest to such an intentional act? [Ive never heard of this issue of breaking the host inappropriately before now.]
 
Don_Ruggero said:
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FrDavid96:
Breaking the Host in half cannot happen by accident.
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It most assuredly can happen by accident. Our hosts in Europe are significantly thinner than what I saw when visiting the United States.
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As I already said (maybe you missed it) a host can break by accident, but not a nice clean break down the middle (not “in half”). I drew that distinction—again, maybe you just did not read it.
 
Rau said:
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FrDavid96:
Obviously, an accident.

Benefit of the doubt only goes so far. We all know that what is being discussed here is doing it intentionally.
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What motivation would lead a priest to such an intentional act? [Ive never heard of this issue of breaking the host inappropriately before now.]
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Who knows?

I’m reminded of the words of St John Paul II
It must be lamented that, especially in the years following the post-conciliar liturgical reform, as a result of a misguided sense of creativity and adaptation there have been a number of abuses which have been a source of suffering for many. A certain reaction against “formalism” has led some, especially in certain regions, to consider the “forms” chosen by the Church’s great liturgical tradition and her Magisterium as non-binding and to introduce unauthorized innovations which are often completely inappropriate.
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Source http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/s...-ii_enc_20030417_ecclesia_eucharistia_en.html
 
FiveLinden said:
If we had a big sports-style scoreboard that monitored the priest’s actions and scored him according to whether he had indeed read the black and did the red, would that in itself be a liturgical abuse?
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No, but it would lead to instant replay, and red flags flying in from the choir loft, and calls to Rome for definitive answers. And, of course, lots of hand-wringing over whether Father made a “liturgy move” before his knee hit the ground. 😉
 
FrDavid96 said:
As I already said (maybe you missed it) a host can break by accident, but not a nice clean break down the middle (not “in half”). I drew that distinction—again, maybe you just did not read it.
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I read what you wrote.
 
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