ASK FATHER: Priest tells woman not to wear veil at Mass

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All that I ask is for folks to dress in a non-casual manner. We are going to praise and worship God. We are not going to a ball game or a picnic.
Sounds more egocentric than theocentric…people come to please God, not each other…it may fall into the category that God is not looking for sacrifices, but only a pure heart and contrite spirit…can any mortal judge those things in others by how they dress for Mass?
 
Show up for Mass in the racerback tank with bra straps showing that sat in front of me a couple of weeks ago and yep, Imma judge ya…and I’ll answer for it later with no issue.
 
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Not a problem for me, actually. Though someone’s lack of self-respect is of course in reality not my issue.

And I think dressing like that for Mass shows a lack of self-respect.
 
I dress up because I like to dress up. I don’t think that automatically makes me more reverent or more respectful. We have a mix in our parish of how people dress. Some in suits, some come in jeans. I think it’s a personal preference, and I don’t think Jesus is looking more favorably upon the person in a suit versus the person in jeans.

And you know, I think in some parishes people actually kind of rebel against the idea of dressing up because some view Liturgy as opportunity to put on a show. They kind of forget the reason why we’re there. And I’m only referring to what I have encountered in some personal experience (lest anyone here think I am directing this at them)
 
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I dress up because I was brought up that you dress up for church. My dad dressed up for Sunday Mass, my mom and grandparents dressed up for church. I would feel odd if I wasn’t dressed up. I agree - it doesn’t make me any better than anyone else. I choose clothes for church like I choose everything else I wear: because I like them.

I was also brought up that you don’t flash your underwear in public, much less in church, which is why the whole style of it being okay for bra straps to show turns me right off, regardless of where it is. To me it looks trashy.

I’m probably one of the few women in the world that still wears a slip. LOL.
But I dress the way I do because I feel confident enough to be a little more authentic to God, if that makes sense.
That seems to say that those of us who choose to dress a bit differently are inauthentic in our intent and lack confidence. I don’t think you meant that. God sees me when I roll out of bed in the AM - but like I would put on nice clothes for a dinner date, I dress up a bit to go to his house and receive him. Personal choice, no more and no less.
 
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All that I ask is for folks to dress in a non-casual manner. We are going to praise and worship God. We are not going to a ball game or a picnic.
Sounds more egocentric than theocentric…people come to please God, not each other…it may fall into the category that God is not looking for sacrifices, but only a pure heart and contrite spirit…can any mortal judge those things in others by how they dress for Mass?
Umm… those are not my words or my beliefs. Please edit your post to correctly attribute those words!!!
 
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I will submit that finding a proper half slip in this day and age took some effort…and I found it alarming!
 
I will submit that finding a proper half slip in this day and age took some effort…and I found it alarming!
If you are near a Haynes outlet they have half-slips. You can order online too. Half slips are a must. 😳
 
That seems to say that those of us who choose to dress a bit differently are inauthentic in our intent and lack confidence. I don’t think you meant that.
You’re inferring incorrectly. If you look at my whole response again, I had said that my church was the only place I feel comfortable enough with how I look. Aka in different contexts I would be too focused on my looks. So obviously I would be more myself in Church because I’m not worried about impressing anyone. I genuinely don’t care about what you or others wear, tbh, unless you stick out like a sore thumb.
 
If you receive an invitation to attend Sunday dinner at your family’s home, do you dress as if you are going to a wedding?
Is it dinner at Grandma’s? You’re wise to show up the way Grandma has told you that you’d better show up.

A priest explained this to me recently: he said in our time we have a great deal of difficulty understanding the difference between “intimate” and “casual.” He said that our encounter with Christ in the Eucharist is always intensely intimate, but it should never ever be casual. We come to Mass to worship and adore, so we ought to dress in order to show respect for the setting. Do we have to have wedding clothing? Well, it ought to be appropriate for some wedding somewhere, a wedding at which display of wealth isn’t the order of the day.

Having said that, we have been on vacation, had unforeseen difficulties, and were faced with the choice of attending Mass in inappropriate clothing or not at all. Lack of appropriate clothing does not automatically imply a dispensation from the Sunday obligation. Maybe if you are so filthy you might damage the interior of the Church or you are dressed in such a way that you are certain to be an utter distraction to everyone present, of course there is a point at which you simply can’t go into a gathering without causing offense, but sometimes some of us may accidentally find ourselves having to fulfill our Sunday obligation in a manner we would not have chosen.

What we do not have is the directive to dishonor those who dress poorly according to our judgment. We have, instead, the very opposite directive:

My brothers, show no partiality as you adhere to the faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ. For if a man with gold rings on his fingers and in fine clothes comes into your assembly, and a poor person in shabby clothes also comes in, and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say, “Sit here, please,” while you say to the poor one, “Stand there,” or “Sit at my feet,” have you not made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil designs? Listen, my beloved brothers. Did not God choose those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom that he promised to those who love him? But you dishonored the poor personif you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. (James 2:1-6, 9)

If we allow ourselves to be dismissive of others in our hearts because of their clothing, do we think they’ll never know? Do we ourselves never know when someone is looking down on us? Please. Let’s be real, and conform our minds to the ways we ought to be acting, so we will never be acting duplicitously.
 
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But it depends on how one defines “appropriate.” The Church, or Grandma in your analogy, hasn’t actually issued a directive on this topic. Since I attend business meetings with clients in jeans and a nice top, I feel appropriate wearing the same clothing to Mass. I certainly don’t spend my time checking what everybody else is wearing to see if they are meeting or exceeding my standards – I figure that’s their business.
 
But it depends on how one defines “appropriate.” The Church, or Grandma in your analogy, hasn’t actually issued a directive on this topic. Since I attend business meetings with clients in jeans and a nice top, I feel appropriate wearing the same clothing to Mass. I certainly don’t spend my time checking what everybody else is wearing to see if they are meeting or exceeding my standards – I figure that’s their business.
There hasn’t been a directive issued because it is a cultural answer. There are places where there are men in jeans who are dressed well enough for their own wedding day. Still, there are people who conduct serious business in work boots. Just because someone out there is making million dollar deals in construction clothing doesn’t make construction clothing into “Sunday best.” Nobody cares how much money can be passed around by people in jeans and T-shirts. The question is whether you are in an area where particularly nice jeans and T-shirts qualify as someone’s weekly “best.” That will depend on area and on the individual’s financial means.

Again: intimate, but not casual. Be in clothing for the Lord’s Day that shows more than just average respect for the occasion. It is the Lord’s Day, not a normal work day.

By the way, no one here is asking you to judge anyone else. The implication is that we ought to ask if we ourselves are giving the impression to someone who knows us that we are being respectful or careless in our choice of Sunday clothing. Is our dress as edifying to ourselves and others as it could be? Yes, even though no one ought to look down on how others dress, of course our dress can still be edifying! No, it is no one’s business to judge anyone else; these discussions are suggestions for self-examination only. Mileage, as I so often say, will vary.
 
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In the winter I wear jeans and a long sleeved soft cotton top. In the warmer months I wear shorts and a short sleeved soft cotton top.
I do dress up for Christmas and Easter.
 
Fortunately, it is left to each of us to determine what is appropriate. Clean, modest clothing is what I consider to be that. YMMV.
 
Fortunately, it is left to each of us to determine what is appropriate. Clean, modest clothing is what I consider to be that. YMMV.
I’d say clean and modest is the minimum for daily Mass, but for our family Sundays require some acknowledgement that the Lord’s Day is not like other days and calls for extra care, depending on what the person has. Sunday Mass is not a casual gathering. What you take the trouble to wear is part of how you are taking the trouble to dispose yourself for adoration and reverence. What that looks like? Results will vary, yes.
 
Oh…this just brings out my snark! My personal retort would be “did you ask sister to take off her wimple?”. I would then find the nearest confessional.
 
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