ASK FATHER: Was St. Michael Prayer after Mass suppressed by Vatican II?

[TheDoctor]

These are the “Leonine Prayers” which were said after low masses. I’ve started saying them after every Mass I attend. dailycatholic.org/leonine.htm

You can access the Leonine Prayers here (the website above is sedevacantist).
copiosa.org/satan/leonine.htm

 

[corsair]

A parish I used to belong to said the St. Michael prayer after every mass. Someone ( fundamental/traditionalist longing for the Latin Mass) complained to the local bishop about the propriety of the prayer and the bishop’s ruling was that the prayer could be said, but not included in the proper of the mass. The pastor then moved the recitation of the prayer to a position after the celebrant says “The Mass is Ended. Go in Peace.” That is the formal end of the mass and saying the prayer after that dismissal satisfied the bishop and the GIRM (General Instruction of the Roman Missal)

Saying the St. Michael prayer before the dismissal technically adds something to the Mass and that is not considered proper.

That is my understanding.

Shalom

The Bishop is correct. The Leonine Prayers are said after the “Ite Missa est” and the response. But only in a low Mass (EF). I know several parishes (OF) that say them in the same format.

 

[brian_custer]

people can’t seem to get out of the church after mass fast enough in my parish

no prayers of any type said after mass

the church is deserted

lots of people milling about in the lobby buying cupcakes , etc…

 

[otjm]

I am guessing that these Masses were OF? I also have seen where the Hail Mary and/or the prayer to St. Michael were prayed as part of the Prayers of the Faithful which of course is during Mass. I have never heard them prayed during the EF, only after along with the Last Gospel

To answer your title: it was not suppressed by Vatican 2. It was dropped (as were other items within the Mass) with the change in the Mass to the OF, from the EF.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

people can’t seem to get out of the church after mass fast enough in my parish

no prayers of any type said after mass

the church is deserted

lots of people milling about in the lobby buying cupcakes , etc…

I suspect this is why the churches that put the St. Michael prayers earlier in the Mass do so - because otherwise about 5 people would hang around to say them after.

Based on all the previous threads complaining about people talking to each other in church and people not being welcoming or social enough to each other, it sounds like some folks here would be thrilled that folks rush out of the church and then mill around buying the cupcakes and chatting to each other I presume.

 

[Boy_Wonder]

You can access the Leonine Prayers here (the website above is sedevacantist).
copiosa.org/satan/leonine.htm

Oh no! Sorry about that. Was in a hurry and didn’t notice. I am not a sedevacantist and avoid them. Thanks for supplying a better link.

 

[JamesCaruso]

In our parish, the prayer to St. Michael is repeated after both daily masses, and after the non-singing earliest Sunday morning mass, as I recall. There’s no good reason why this was ever dropped elsewhere. Satan is alive and well and doing his best to bring down the Church maybe even more so nowadays.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

In our parish, the prayer to St. Michael is repeated after both daily masses, and after the non-singing earliest Sunday morning mass, as I recall. **There’s no good reason why this was ever dropped elsewhere. **Satan is alive and well and doing his best to bring down the Church maybe even more so nowadays.

I agree. It’s good to hear the prayer being regularly recited in churches these days. I’ve heard objections to it on grounds like “it will scare the children” - get real, with all the scary stuff kids watch on TV they’re going to be afraid of a prayer? Plus it’s the perfect time to explain to them that they have nothing to fear when God’s power, through St. Michael, is protecting them.