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Didn’t know it was not the norm ! Good to learn about how things are done elsewhere xx
No one is saying to leave them alone. Parents often carry their small children up front or lead them by the hand because like you, they can’t leave them all alone in the pew. Just don’t expect the priest to bless them. If he does fine, if he doesn’t fine.I can’t leave my little children at the back of the church whilst I walk to the front for 5+ minutes.
It is if she didn’t know otherwise.Because it’s not a simple misunderstanding.
My irritation stems from the decidedly uncharitable treatment of this woman and so many Catholics like her. I find it troubling that this has triggered certain clergy members.And, as I’ve already stated, yes, I do get irritated when people accuse me (and my brother priests) of actually doing something wrong when we follow the Roman Missal, as we are obliged to do.
I have been following these two threads since their beginning. Where was any one treated decidedly uncharitably? The only instances I recall are when people accuse the priest of being a jerk or uncaring or rude.My irritation stems from the decidedly uncharitable treatment of this woman and so many Catholics like her. I find it troubling that this has triggered certain clergy members.
I liked this comment by a member:
I’ve often wondered if the same people stand in line at the bank to not cash a check, or stand in line at the post office to not mail a letter.Yeah, @blackforest, but the point is this: there’s only one reason to be in a Communion line – to receive the Eucharist!They might stand in line at the bank for another service, like to open an account or replace a lost debit card. Someone at the post office might stand in line to buy a book of stamps when the stamp-dispenser machine isn’t working. Or to mail a package instead of a letter.
In short, people could stand in one line for multiple reasons.
The poster’s point is this: would someone stand in line at the bank in order to greet the teller and hear them say, “hi there! hope you’re having a good day! see ya, now!”![]()
How many priests have you met?I’ve simply never met a priest who took issue with it.
Plenty. What happens when they come up to a lay EMHC and that person cannot give the blessing? (Let me help you: they get really ticked off. But, they shouldn’t expect that this might happen… unless they misunderstand a pseudo-rite that is never discussed or explained, but merely presumed.What possible harm could come from a quick blessing for a small child?)
The other week, as a (lay) EMHC and I were standing side-by-side, distributing the Eucharist, a young teen came up and just stood there in front of her. No hands crossed over his chest, no words, no gestures, just… standing there. The EMHC next to me looked over, with a panicked expression. I asked the teen (well… really, his parent behind him), “excuse me, can we help you?” and his mom responded, “he wants a blessing.” (I had to say, “oh! I’m sorry… a layperson cannot offer this kind of blessing!”)Tis_Bearself:![]()
This is, as I said in my first post, the really weird thing that has developed from this whole idea.everything from taking the focus off the Eucharist to doing something that EMHCs cannot do and thus creating confusion among kids/ parents/ EMHCs should the kid wanting a blessing end up in their line
The expectation that a lot of people, have is that the liturgy runs as smooth as silk. If the Church wants to give blessings in the communion line, that’s fine. Just come up with written instructions on doing it so everyone is on the same page. At EMHC meetings, make sure the volunteers are up to speed and informed. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.So… yeah. Big confusion. And sometimes, real angst in the line.![]()
Actually, he doesn’t. The norm is not to bless in the Communion line. Priests should not have to announce that their preference is to adhere to the norm.Any priest who feels this strongly about it needs to make his personal preferences clear from the get-go.
More analogous would be: “Oh, sorry. Please don’t get irritated. I received a lollipop at Wells Fargo, Bank of America, and Key Bank. I just thought it was customary and didn’t realize that you didn’t hand out lollipops here at Curmudgeon Financial.”The poster’s point is this: would someone stand in line at the bank in order to greet the teller and hear them say, “hi there! hope you’re having a good day! see ya, now!”
A lot.How many priests have you met?
I think an EMHC who gets that easily triggered is probably in the wrong ministry. Perhaps a little advanced training will help matters. https://www.dosp.org/worship/wp-con...ary-Minister-of-Communion-give-a-blessing.pdfPlenty. What happens when they come up to a lay EMHC and that person cannot give the blessing? (Let me help you: they get really ticked off . But, they shouldn’t expect that this might happen… unless they misunderstand a pseudo-rite that is never discussed or explained, but merely presumed.)
In the snippy blog post linked in the OP. Did you read it? It’s short. And it accuses Catholics seeking a blessing at Communion of selfishness, i.e. of wanting to “get something” and “feel good.”I have been following these two threads since their beginning. Where was any one treated decidedly uncharitably?
Quite frankly, it’s you who needs to “take a breath” and realize that a priest who is celebrating Mass faithfully, according to the Missal, is “not committing a sin.”Take a deep breath. She didn’t commit a sin.
I don’t have a strong objection to the idea of blessings in lieu of Communion.The expectation that a lot of people, have is that the liturgy runs as smooth as silk. If the Church wants to give blessings in the communion line, that’s fine. Just come up with written instructions on doing it so everyone is on the same page. At EMHC meetings, make sure the volunteers are up to speed and informed. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
That’s not correct.I think an EMHC who gets that easily triggered is probably in the wrong ministry. Perhaps a little advanced training will help matters. https://www.dosp.org/worship/wp-con...ary-Minister-of-Communion-give-a-blessing.pdf
I know that everyone will say “It was private communication” but the letter from the CDW did refer to several documents presently in effect that make very problematic the conferring of blessings on many of those who cannot receive Communion.Augustinian:![]()
I don’t have a strong objection to the idea of blessings in lieu of Communion.The expectation that a lot of people, have is that the liturgy runs as smooth as silk. If the Church wants to give blessings in the communion line, that’s fine. Just come up with written instructions on doing it so everyone is on the same page. At EMHC meetings, make sure the volunteers are up to speed and informed. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
I recognize there’s an inherent problem and that is the “everyone gets something” attitude together with the confusion it causes with regard to the importance of actually receiving Communion. If it’s just a line where everyone gets some kind of blessing, then it ceases to matter much whether or not someone gets the Eucharist.
HOWEVER (and this is important), if the Church were to add a rubric into the Missal to this effect, I would have no issue with it. I might not like it. I might like it. Still, I would do it.
Yet, the fact remains: it’s not in the Missal. It’s not in any rubric. It’s not part of the Mass.
Years ago, I used to help at a local Maronite parish. Blessing pre-Communion children is indeed part of their Liturgy. When I administered Communion, I did the blessings. While it is certainly a part of their rubrics, it’s not part of the Roman Rite Mass.
The fact that it was a private letter, as opposed to a published one, does not change the truth of what’s in the letter.I know that everyone will say “It was private communication” but the letter from the CDW did refer to several documents presently in effect that make very problematic the conferring of blessings on many of those who cannot receive Communion.